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Development => Android versions => Locus Classic (LM Free, LM Pro) => Topic started by: Menion on April 13, 2011, 16:48:27

Title: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 13, 2011, 16:48:27
20.4.2011 - Locus 1.5.2.2
Free version, behavior as Pro, valid till 1.5.2011

18.4.2011 - Locus 1.5.2.1
Looks like the worst is over.... uff. So is here still anyone who wants to do some tests? So Free version, behavior as Pro, valid till 1.5.2011

15.4.2011 - Locus 1.5.2

14.4.2011 - Locus 1.5.1

13.4.2011 - Locus 1.5.0
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 13, 2011, 16:57:48
ah, I just realized that I forgot to fix dates in track, they are in UTM and not in local time .. hmm so in next version
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: jofre on April 13, 2011, 17:05:37
Hi menion,

do you remember sudden phone restarts i had during downloading maps? They were phone related, not your app. This known issue with htc desire phones, restarting when cpu reaches around 35C. Sorry for that. It may help explain future issues from htc desire locus users. My phone is in repair for MoBo change, until then i'm off unfotunately from reporting problems and testing your great app. thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 13, 2011, 17:07:14
hmm fine thanks. True is that map download is CPU intensive action (every downloaded tile is converted into bitmap to check if is image correct and all this in five threads ...). Fine, thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: jofre on April 14, 2011, 11:08:39
Is there possibility to limit cpu while downloading, or give it low priority? I know it is bit crazy idea... don't worry about it if it is too much work... cheers
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: svartbjorn on April 14, 2011, 21:25:34
Impressive release 1.5.1:
- this release is really of high quality. All the issues I reported on 1.4.x have been fixed. Only one small exception:
- still open issue: POI alert, should play sound (user selected sound) until manually stopped. Refer my last post under version 1.4.x, dated 14/4, where I also posted an idea how this couold be done.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 14, 2011, 21:50:11
thanks, I know about it and I'll do something with this into next release. Anyway expect changes as wrote here (//http://forum.asamm.cz/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=490)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Blackdawn on April 15, 2011, 12:58:07
Hi menion,
I just updated my Locus Pro to 1.5.2 version without checking your note, I just think it wont be that serious  :cry: .
Is there any possibilitys to downgrade version back to 1.5.1?
I loved Eniro map that were on 1.5.1 version and I would like to get it back.
Otherwise this is great application  :D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 15, 2011, 14:22:39
older versions are as usually attached here on forum
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: neserg on April 15, 2011, 14:32:17
Hi, menion!
The only thing which has changed in version 1.5.1 -> 1.5.2 is a maps removing?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 15, 2011, 14:41:06
yes
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: auric on April 16, 2011, 10:26:52
Both 1.5.1 versions here (free and pro), are they expiring on a specific date or are they the market versions?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 16, 2011, 10:39:29
these are same as market. So valid ... forever :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 18, 2011, 16:53:22
so new version for testing with bunch of new features. Support for http://mapbox.com/ (http://mapbox.com/) maps ... also please check this - viewtopic.php?f=10&t=501 (http://forum.asamm.cz/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=501). This may be interesting for those, who use track records. I'm also interested to add OSGB36 support, so please anyone check topic with this theme.

Edit: also info for you. I already wrote to almost half of map providers. So we'll see if any response come back. Biggest problem will be with google (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/m ... 0d5328371f (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=3b33b87e2fc2bc3c&hl=en&fid=3b33b87e2fc2bc3c0004a10d5328371f)). They have no chance for developers to use their map outside of web browser or their pre-prepared android component, which is useless for me ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: spawny on April 18, 2011, 19:19:51
Hi Menion,

it's great that you continue, after the maps problem! With google ... I wonder about other android programs, who also show GoogleMaps. I was using Maverick a lot before Locus came out and they also offer a lot of maps to choose from. However there's no possibility to download the maps directly from there (it only caches the visited tiles). That's why I like Locus! It still would be great if you could show GoogleMaps (legally), which probably means that you disallow downloading maps from there, but just showing. Maverick is out for quite some time, so if they can then you also might me able, right?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: svartbjorn on April 19, 2011, 09:33:23
Some test results of 1.5.2.1:

- new guiding icon upper left corner when guiding is enabled: great! Very useful to have quick access to these commands during guiding. Before you had to tap the track, and that was ok too, but you have to hit it. So I think this new icon is great!
- POI alert:
       Fixed: continues to play while moving closer to POI. Great.
       Issue: no quick way to stop it. Have to go through the POI alert menu, tap edit, uncheck the Play sound box. That is a long process. The POI alert menu should include a "Stop" command. When alert is enabled today, the menu has two commands: Edit and Cancel. Should have a 3rd one: "Stop". Cancel doesn't stop the playing today, and also Cancel is a different thing - that is to disable the POI alert function. Would a "POI alert" icon in upper left corner similar to the Guiding icon be useful?
- elevation: when driving to work today, I turned on track recording on Locus and on MyTracks. They showed very close results, so it seems your vertical information is correct (not doubled as someone indicated).
- point on track: great new feature! Works great!
- sorting choice is not remembered. I choose "sort by create date" and then "reverse order". When I restart Locus, the sorting criterias are not remembered, and I have to redo both to get my latest track on top of the track list. Also, I would think most people would like to see the latest track on the top so they do not have to scroll down to the bottom of the track list, so default "sort by create date" should have latest on top, not at the bottom as it is today.
- Compass button back on the GPS menu: thank you very much!!!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 19, 2011, 09:50:03
Quote from: "spawny"Hi Menion,

it's great that you continue, after the maps problem! With google ... I wonder about other android programs, who also show GoogleMaps. I was using Maverick a lot before Locus came out and they also offer a lot of maps to choose from. However there's no possibility to download the maps directly from there (it only caches the visited tiles). That's why I like Locus! It still would be great if you could show GoogleMaps (legally), which probably means that you disallow downloading maps from there, but just showing. Maverick is out for quite some time, so if they can then you also might me able, right?

There exist one component called MapView in Google Android API. Some programs use this to show some data on google maps (like c:geo, some smaller apps). But all bigger and more complex map apps use own system. Same with Locus. So you say that Maveric can use ... but I'm saying, they CAN'T! Same with other softs like Orux, RMaps etc ... they all use Google maps and others ILLEGAL! And that's what I don't want to do. Unfortunately as I see, there is no chance for developer like me, to use custom map system in own application. Really weird mainly from "Free for all" Google ... grr
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 20, 2011, 20:11:07
Quote from: "svartbjorn"...

Excellent report as usually! So try new version. All you wrote about fixed or improved ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: tipichris on April 20, 2011, 21:35:10
Hi Menion

Thanks for the great work. There seems to be a small problem with the quadkeys (type 5). Locus is adding an additional leading 0 to the key. For example, for a tile not far from my house, the quadkey should be 031313101123333, in central England. But Locus is generating 0031313101123333. Which is somewhere in the Arctic Ocean! This is using 1.5.2.2
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 21, 2011, 06:04:59
hmm cannot be problem in your provider.xml file? Check it, if you do not find problem, PM me and I'll look at it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: svartbjorn on April 21, 2011, 23:43:58
Hi Menion!
Always a pleasure to test new Locus versions!
Thank you for a great test version 1.5.2.2. I have used it a lot, both by car and as hiking. Test results:
- POI: now fantastic! Works perfectly in all respects. I love your new red STOP button that pops up on the screen when the alert triggers. Perfect! Also great menu choice: Play once, or Play until stop.
- sorting criteria: now remembered correctly and survice a Locus restart. I notice new tracks are visible at the top of the list. Perfect!
- uphill/downhill accumulated elevation: there is definitely something wrong here. I had a 3 hour hike today in a not very hilly area. But still the track status reports 2130m uphill over distance 6500m. About same for downhill. That is completely impossible. Min altitude was 1246m, max altitude 1503m. I think I have an idea why this goes so wrong: when I look at the chart, I notice the altitude is very "noisy". I am pretty sure this is due to the inaccuracy in the GPS vertical position. Hence Locus is adding up uphill/downhill changes all the time, while there are no altitude changes in the reality. I think you need to add some sort of smoothness filter. The day after tomorrow I am going on an extremely tough hike to a very high peak. I will then compare the results of Locus and MyTracks.
- I found an issue with creating tracks: even though I have selected offline maps, Locus requires internet connection. I have posted this separately under "Troubles and questions"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 22, 2011, 05:37:22
hmm excellent report as usually. Thanks. Shame on other without any response! :)

I'll add here today some new version with improvements so please test it on your hike ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: svartbjorn on April 22, 2011, 08:57:29
Regarding the accumulated uphill/downhill elevation error: One important detail to add: For the reported example, I used Settings/GPS/"Time between GPS locations" = 60 to save battery while hiking. So I guess this caused the inaccuracy in vertical position (elevation) to be higher than if this parameter =0 (GPS receiver is tracking continuously). A track from driving by car and GPS on continuously, has a much smoother chart. I can see this is a challenge for Locus when GPS is turned on with intervals and how to smoothen the calculated elevation. Maybe accumulated uphill/downhill only will make sense with GPS receiver continuously on to get sufficient vertical accuracy?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 22, 2011, 13:52:31
I added some simple filter on GPS altitude, so maybe this will help, we'll see ...
(discuss about it rather in new v1.6.0 topic)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: eserim on April 26, 2011, 22:49:06
Hi - many thanks for an excellent app - since google removed the api to edit user maps this has proved excellent for field data capture, where accuracy isn't crucial (nearest 5 metres)

I'm very interested to see you have listed ArcGIS in the most recent version - I've stuck at 1.5.1 for obvious reasons for now,  could you please enlighten me what formats these are?  Are they for user maps (shapefiles/rasters) stored on the SD card or support for ArcGIS map services?

One feature I'd love, is WMS support - that way I could ditch using google maps and feed our field guys our much more detailed maps and aerials.

Many thanks for the app (again)

Eserim
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: Menion on April 27, 2011, 11:26:15
hi,
  test new version 1.6.1.1.
interesting for you
- My Maps viewer and editor enabled
- BETA support for WMS (I was working on it last few days)

about adding ArcGIS maps. You can ad it as custom provider. "Manual" for this is here (//http://forum.asamm.cz/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=45).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 1.5.x
Post by: eserim on April 27, 2011, 12:27:38
Cool - I'll look at 1.6.1.1 when I return to work next week and get my hands back on our test phone - WMS support will move this from a useful app to one I can really sell to my boss.