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Support => Troubles & Questions => Topic started by: chbla on June 17, 2015, 15:21:21

Title: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 17, 2015, 15:21:21
Hi there,

I'm right now looking for 2 types of POIs:

a) Parking Lots
b) drinking water sources (while hiking)

I noticed that OSM (I'm looking at openandromaps at the moment) includes those already partially. However, those points are only selectable through the theme and are not imported as waypoints.

Is there a something so I can hilight parking lots or other particular points if they are features of the map? Or how does this work?
Is it possible to extract these OSM pois somehow so I can filter them in the POI list?
Or does anyone have POI sources for parking lots and water sources?

Thanks a lot,
Christoph
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: john_percy on June 17, 2015, 19:09:23
A good source of POIs is Pocket GPS World at http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=POIs
You need to register (free) and log on. Download and import into Locus as data points.
Alternatively, you can use the POI database that is associated with Locus Store maps: Main Menu > More (Functions) > points of interest (beta). Drinking water is under Culture and Tourism. Parking seems to not be included.
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 17, 2015, 20:49:32
I've tried it - but that's mainly for the UK it seems, for my region (Austria, Switzerland, Italy) there is not much ..
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: john_percy on June 17, 2015, 22:14:44
I am afraid you are right. Here are some others (but they may not be any better):
http://poiplaza.com
https://poi.gps-data-team.com/country/
http://www.poi-factory.com/
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: voldapet on June 18, 2015, 07:22:22
As jonh_percy wrote one possibility is offline POI DB that contains the POI for drinking water. The parking lots are not included because: we're not able to filter private parking (in POI DB) at this moment and with parking lots was POI DB for vector map quite big (influence the speed of searching).
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 18, 2015, 09:07:49
Thanks jonh_percy, I'll have a look.
I noticed that you can also extract the points from openstreetmap, see links at the bottom: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Points_of_interest

@voldapet: where do I get the offline POI db? it's empty in my Locus. I understand the reason, but I think that parking lots are one of the most used POI searches usually :)
If I understand correctly they are included in the offline vector maps, right? I'm satisfied with openandromaps and I don't really buy them for POIs. Are they based on OSM?
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: voldapet on June 18, 2015, 14:42:11
As I know vector maps from OpenAndroMaps don't contain POI DB. You need to download maps from Menu > Locus store that are available maps generated by Locus team.
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 19, 2015, 09:15:44
If I use openandromaps, or another OSM map, is it somehow possible to filter the POIs/features by type? I think Osmand can do this - or is this a matter of the theme supporting it? (as for Openandromaps I can switch on/off certain things, although on a higher level).
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: michaelbechtold on June 19, 2015, 10:20:44
Quote from: voldapet on June 18, 2015, 14:42:11
As I know vector maps from OpenAndroMaps don't contain POI DB. You need to download maps from Menu > Locus store that are available maps generated by Locus team.

We still wait for the option to only download the POI DBs ... !
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: Menion on June 19, 2015, 10:49:32
Sorry Michael, but this is not planned.
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: gynta on June 19, 2015, 13:11:41
Quote from: menion on June 19, 2015, 10:49:32
Sorry Michael, but this is not planned.
So it's senseless to "Collecting votes"
@ http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/separating-poi-db-downloads-from-map-downloads
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: Menion on June 19, 2015, 13:23:31
Hmm completely forget about this topic. "It is not planned" do not mean "never". For now anyway it really is not planned.
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 19, 2015, 15:48:48
Can anyone please comment on:

QuoteIf I use openandromaps, or another OSM map, is it somehow possible to filter the POIs/features by type? I think Osmand can do this - or is this a matter of the theme supporting it? (as for Openandromaps I can switch on/off certain things, although on a higher level).
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: john_percy on June 19, 2015, 22:11:23
I think the answer to your question is no. As you say, you can do something similar with the Elevate theme from OpenAndroMaps.
Otherwise you can edit a theme. Look for where the parking and drinking icons, alter the zoom-min value, if used, and the size, if defined.
As an example in the Voluntary UK theme, you might change:
<rule e="any" k="amenity" v="parking" zoom-min="17">
<rule e="any" k="access" v="~|yes|public|destination|customers">
<symbol src="file:../vol_res/svg/parking.svg" symbol-height="10dp" scale-icon-size="16,1.25" />
</rule>
</rule>

to
<rule e="any" k="amenity" v="parking" zoom-min="15">
<rule e="any" k="access" v="~|yes|public|destination|customers">
<symbol src="file:../vol_res/svg/parking.svg" symbol-height="14dp" scale-icon-size="16,1.25" />
</rule>
</rule>

and similarly wherever you find drinking_water.svg

Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 19, 2015, 22:12:19
Thanks! I'll give it a try
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: Tobias on June 19, 2015, 22:41:10
Quote from: john_percy on June 19, 2015, 22:11:23
I think the answer to your question is no. As you say, you can do something similar with the Elevate theme from OpenAndroMaps.
One simple trick here is to use Elements, and only show the category you're interested in, e.g. "amenities" for drinking water or "car" for parking, and those POIs are displayed as soon as they are contained in the map.
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: chbla on June 19, 2015, 22:42:27
Is this the selection menu in the settings, or where do you chose that? (Don't have locus here right now to check)
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: Tobias on June 20, 2015, 08:36:00


Quote from: chbla on June 19, 2015, 22:42:27
Is this the selection menu in the settings, or where do you chose that?

The overlay selector when you hit the map theme chooser for a second time.
Title: Re: POIs: Where to get, how to filter?
Post by: john_percy on June 20, 2015, 15:24:51
In the latest version of Locus, you just have to chose the theme for the style and overlay selector to appear.