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Development => Versions => Topic started by: menion on March 09, 2015, 18:00:42

Title: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 09, 2015, 18:00:42
15.04.2015 - Locus 3.7.1.6 - RC test version
04.04.2015 - Locus 3.7.1.4 - Beta test version
02 04.2015 - Locus 3.7.1.3 - Beta test version
26.03.2015 - Locus 3.7.1.2 - Beta test version
16.03.2015 - Locus 3.7.1 - Bug-fix version
09.03.2015 - Locus 3.7.0 - New version -> http://www.locusmap.eu/news-version-3-7-0
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: JoxM on March 09, 2015, 19:06:51
And again, nice work.
First issue: New french maps make Locus crash everytime...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 09, 2015, 19:25:29
oh no, really? Damn ...

edit: @JoxM: testing and no problem. Did you reported crash report to Google? I do not see any report there yet.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Diddi on March 09, 2015, 19:32:06
Thx
Bug: Gps Indicator is switching between on and off the whole time. Edit: seems to be gone after restart
2. Ui bugs still there (copy, paste,  and search buttons not visible)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 09, 2015, 20:04:08
Thx
Bug: Gps Indicator is switching between on and off the whole time. Edit: seems to be gone after restart
2. Ui bugs still there (copy, paste,  and search buttons not visible)
Cannot confirm both. It works.

Nice implementation of the controls for the panels. I like it :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Guido Farina on March 09, 2015, 20:36:39
New track edit mode is good for Samsung SPen owner, but how to add points? i don't see any possibility

edit
First drag the green dot then tap on the red dots between the green ones, and so on
OK works, very easy with the SPen
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Diddi on March 09, 2015, 20:50:36
Weather  Service not working for me.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 09, 2015, 21:05:09
Weather  Service not working for me.
confirmed (on VM)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 09, 2015, 21:38:18
Sorry issue is not on our side ... https://www.facebook.com/worldweatheronline?fref=nf (first post with info about some issues on their server).

So any serious problems in new version? Looks good for now except JoxM and Diddi which I'm not able to simulate.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Diddi on March 09, 2015, 21:50:52
Looks good for now
except JoxM and Diddi which I'm not able to simulate.
Same issue as reported on help desk
Options to copy ,  paste and cut are not visible after mark something
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/09/89318077ce3586c24d29472c3a0c8f5b.jpg)
 Gps Indicator is working now. Was just switching while editing the new top and right panel
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 09, 2015, 22:01:51
ah yes, this is old known issue. I hoped that one change helped on this, but seems not. So suggest just to use long-click on places where you expect buttons, because they are there, just background should not be white :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 09, 2015, 22:06:59
New track edit mode is good for Samsung SPen owner, but how to add points? i don't see any possibility

edit
First drag the green dot then tap on the red dots between the green ones, and so on
OK works, very easy with the SPen
Grazie per il cenno.
First time using SPen in Locus with pleasure :)
But don't understand the system of relocating points.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 09, 2015, 22:14:32
New track edit mode is good for Samsung SPen owner, but how to add points? i don't see any possibility

edit
First drag the green dot then tap on the red dots between the green ones, and so on
OK works, very easy with the SPen
Grazie per il cenno.
First time using SPen in Locus with pleasure :)
But don't understand the system of relocating points.

Try to describe more precisely what is no clear, if is it possible :).

Also guys, be careful if Locus correctly compute new values like altitude, speed etc. All values should be correctly interpolated from around values, but just for sure ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 09, 2015, 22:31:53
New track edit mode is good for Samsung SPen owner..
...But don't understand the system of relocating points.
Try to describe more precisely what is no clear, if is it possible :).
Will do this in a separate thread tomorrow. Long missed feature, want to understand this well.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 09, 2015, 22:42:37
...Will do this in a separate thread tomorrow. Long missed feature, want to understand this well.
See also clip in old version thread
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4396.msg35240#msg35240
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: slarti76 on March 10, 2015, 09:03:04
Update to new version removed my current controls in top panel, have to add them back again. It's not a big deal, but it's always a little annoying if you have to redo settings.
Probably you did this so we have to test the new system to set up the controls

And a tiny typo: When opening the new setting "Tracks popup content", the dialog title is "Points popup content". Settings are those for tracks, that's correct, just the title wrong. Somebody copied & pasted  ;)

edit
I just realized that the new flowing of icons between top and right panels offers an easy way to improve display in landscape mode. Please check this out: http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/top-right-panel-different-number-of-icons-for-portrait-landscape
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 10, 2015, 10:05:44
Quote
, restored config from backup should really remain restored. Currently it is probably overwrote when Locus is restarted (overwrote with current loaded settings)
solved, config is also restored :)

yesterday first "BETA" was updated to "Free" with no additional downloaded data :)
second "PRO" was updated with need of additional data download :(

we discuss in thread V3.6.x post #68 about logout from GS account with free version and you agree necessity
Quote
And "Logout" in case of more people using one app make sense.
did you forgot to implement it?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Mek on March 10, 2015, 21:33:07
The problem I reported here (http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4396.msg35242#msg35242) can no longer be reproduced with this version, it's been probably already fixed. Thanks :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: john_percy on March 11, 2015, 17:21:32
Error in English text:
Shift map center .. Move the map center down by ¼
(http://s22.postimg.org/6sfc48n3h/Screenshot_2015_03_10_16_49_36.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6sfc48n3h/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 11, 2015, 18:08:55
Error in English text:

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/fix-minor-spelling-error-for-settings-shift-map-center
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 12, 2015, 16:35:15
@balloni55: yes, sorry, forget to implement it. Fixed

@Mek: hmm, nope. As I wrote in response to your issue, I was not able to simulate this problem :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: JoxM on March 13, 2015, 13:17:30
Next problem I found is, that in geocaching listing the "bigger","smaller" and "back" buttons are white on white and no more visible if screen background is also white.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 13, 2015, 16:26:27
Also guys, be careful if Locus correctly compute new values like altitude, speed etc. All values should be correctly interpolated from around values, but just for sure ...
I noticed slightly higher values for computed altitude. Thats what you ask for?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 13, 2015, 19:22:33
column too small (or word too long)  :)
(http://s30.postimg.org/eclz7vt8t/Screenshot_2015_03_13_16_23_56.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/eclz7vt8t/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 14, 2015, 09:26:17
"edit on map" does no longer allow adding points to a track.
Tried in 3.7 pro and free.
Also in settings I did not find a way to configure such feature.
Why is that ??

Pls have a look at the screenshot and advise...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: JoxM on March 14, 2015, 11:15:17
And another one...
The text on the distance circles is not correct.
I get "500m - 1000m - 20km (!) - 50km (!)" instead of "500m - 1000m - 2km - 5km" :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 14, 2015, 11:41:54
And another one...
The text on the distance circles is not correct.
I get "500m - 1000m - 20km (!) - 50km (!)" instead of "500m - 1000m - 2km - 5km" :)
Jup, known issue. already posted on helpdesk.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 14, 2015, 12:21:49
Hi, menion could you please add these customizations to config.cfg in next version?
- support for own order of map categories in quick map switcher (vector > offline > online)
- define which map categories in quick switch show initially collapsed (now all expanded)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 14, 2015, 20:49:22
"edit on map" does no longer allow adding points to a track...
Pls have a look at the screenshot and advise ...

“edit location“ has now included(!) a "add point" function.
please try it

[GER]
Michael
Bitte drueck doch einfach mal auf die gezeigte Funktion!
So wie es zu sehen ist in dem Clip
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4396.0;attach=2918
Punkte hinzufügen ist jetzt in dieser Funktion mit drinnen.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 16, 2015, 18:16:33
Bug-fix version is out. Hope that major issues will be solved.

@Bucky Kid: hmm don't know, but probably not. Is it necessary? Collapsing is unwanted side-effect, which I was lazy to solve. And in config.cfg is already possibility to define amount of items if I remember correctly, so you may at least little bit improve this list.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 16, 2015, 19:59:02
V 3.7.1
Quote
And "Logout" in case of more people using one app make sense.
better but not perfect :-[
- if i am logged in with FREE, i found no possibility to see with which account.
- on next step i log out in PRO and FREE (second screenshot)
- now i start FieldNotes "load Fieldnote" with FREE
- third screenshot appeares, no window with login name, no password. Which acccount will be logged in??
- fourth screenshot i am logged in but with what account ?? Fieldnote is uploaded successfull.

(http://s21.postimg.org/gvxrfhhir/Free.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gvxrfhhir/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 16, 2015, 21:36:33
sorry balloni, but I cannot help here. Point of used system called "o-auth" is, that Locus has absolutely no idea what is your username or password. Only what Locus knows is some generated nonsense key called "token", that is used for communications with groundspeak server.

Fact that you do not see any request on name or password on third screenshot, is probably because you checked "keep logged" during previous login, so it is not needed anymore. Try to tap on top button "refresh" (arrows in top right corner). This should help.

And fourth screenshot - "field notes are uploaded succesfully" - damn I again forgot. It's an issue because this feature should be only in Locus Pro :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 16, 2015, 23:39:40
v3.7.1
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35392#msg35392
not fixed
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 17, 2015, 08:58:23
hard to fix. Even a thinner text font (Roboto condensed) do not helps here.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 17, 2015, 19:33:14
Quote
Fact that you do not see any request on name or password on third screenshot, is probably because you checked "keep logged" during previous login, so it is not needed anymore. Try to tap on top button "refresh" (arrows in top right corner). This should help
thanks for your hint, after refrech the login window appears :)

Quote
"field notes are uploaded succesfully" - damn I again forgot
so please forget it furthermore 8) FREE user will be thankful to you !!

Quote
It's an issue because this feature should be only in Locus Pro
by the way, you discribe "for further logging over locus" see screenshot 1, there is no restriction to PRO


(http://s23.postimg.org/be5mbh3dz/Freelog.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/be5mbh3dz/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 18, 2015, 11:10:41
@Bucky Kid: hmm don't know, but probably not. Is it necessary? Collapsing is unwanted side-effect, which I was lazy to solve. And in config.cfg is already possibility to define amount of items if I remember correctly, so you may at least little bit improve this list.

Thanks menion, I agree that collapsing is redundant, but the fixed order is not optimal respective to frequency of usage for different map types (scrolling needed so that quick switch is not that quick ;) )
If you consider this worth time (small change I think) I'd appreciate implementing which could look similar like

# category indexes:
# 1 - online maps
# 2 - offline maps
# 3 - vector maps
gui_quick_map_switch_category_order=3,2,1
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 18, 2015, 17:01:09
another part of "how to confuse a user" ;D
I'm not able to see the difference and effect of this Quick settings.
(http://s2.postimg.org/dc3yfjcj9/2015_03_18_145306.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dc3yfjcj9/)  (http://s2.postimg.org/qezkyt2r9/2015_03_18_145241.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qezkyt2r9/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 18, 2015, 18:35:28
another part of "how to confuse a user" ;D
I'm not able to see the difference and effect of this Quick settings.

The difference is one for guiding and one for navigation, I have it properly sets according setting.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 18, 2015, 19:55:46
another part of "how to confuse a user" ;D
I'm not able to see the difference and effect of this Quick settings.
The difference is one for guiding and one for navigation, I have it properly sets according setting.
thx buck, but that's not the point. What quick switch is for for guiding? left or right button?
(http://s27.postimg.org/xio3qhhjj/2015_03_18_145306.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xio3qhhjj/)
Anyway, I think Menion know what i want to say....
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (9. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 21, 2015, 11:24:30
"edit on map" does no longer allow adding points to a track...
Pls have a look at the screenshot and advise ...

“edit location“ has now included(!) a "add point" function.
please try it

[GER]
Michael
Bitte drueck doch einfach mal auf die gezeigte Funktion!
So wie es zu sehen ist in dem Clip
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4396.0;attach=2918
Punkte hinzufügen ist jetzt in dieser Funktion mit drinnen.

Alles klar, habe jetzt aufmerksamer hingeschaut ... danke !
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: jusc on March 21, 2015, 11:36:08
With mouse or S-Pen (Galaxy Note) it works as shown in the clip. But is this feature useful with a normal phone at all?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 21, 2015, 18:01:55
With mouse or S-Pen (Galaxy Note) it works as shown in the clip. But is this feature useful with a normal phone at all?

Misplacement happens easily, yes. And then you have to pick the point, delet it, or pick and re-place it. Tedious indeed.
I feel this is like crazy religious war between mouse and keyboard shortcust 20 years back. Now we have both - for a good reason. Menion, just get us back the "Add point" - the cose ist still in use - when you re-place :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 21, 2015, 22:32:39
guys, did you tried long click on any of green dots > edit? This should help
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 21, 2015, 23:29:51
guys, did you tried long click on any of green dots > edit? This should help

Sure - eidt = re-place in my post. Annoying, as it is an additional step. It usewd to be one step in the past, now you end up with two in many cases.
I do not argue against the new way. I advise to have BOTH ways. So, depending on device and zoom and stylus or not, etc., people can apply the most useful approach.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 25, 2015, 21:24:31
about bluetooth connect (gps device in this case)

After starting Locus:
(http://s28.postimg.org/cax6282hl/Screenshot_2015_03_18_20_23_44.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cax6282hl/)
this nice hint means?

I think "Select default Bluetooth device" is enough
because Locus already has started.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 26, 2015, 20:24:16
Version 3.7.1.2 ready for Beta test, enjoy it!

@gynta: hmm I think this popup may be visible also when you start track record from widget, right?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 27, 2015, 09:33:47
Hi menion
thanks for new version ;)
my first impression from "cut part of track"... work as expected ;)
- one small issue, after i have confirmed cut action with "delete" complete track is invisible :(. I have to zoom in or out to see modified track :)
- little wording issue, action is named "cut part of track" and confirming button is named "delete"

one other issue also in PRO:
- if i create a copy of track "TEST" from trackfolder, the copy is named "TEST"
- if i create a copy of track "TEST" from track preview/arrow up/create copy the copy is named "TEST-copy"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Guido Farina on March 27, 2015, 11:37:56
Cut part of track works perfectly to me, track editing has become a killer feature in Locus, i always need to delete part of a recorded trail after a walk in the mountains due to errors, now i can delete all the points in a time instead of one by one
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 14:53:37
@gynta: hmm I think this popup may be visible also when you start track record from widget, right?
right. but in my case...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 15:27:00
think there is a wrong description text:
(http://s2.postimg.org/4he96ko9x/2015_03_27_152137.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4he96ko9x/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 15:33:04
already reported yesterday (inside locus by mail) but i fear, i wasn't precise enough - sorry for that.

to enter locus store from map manager -> vector -> downloald maps
end in a errorCode 102

(http://s9.postimg.org/uo53yhlgb/Screenshot_2015_03_26_22_44_22.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/uo53yhlgb/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 16:22:53
training manager

i can't leave menu with unfinished settings

(http://s28.postimg.org/ikq569yo9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ikq569yo9/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 27, 2015, 18:08:40
There's a bug in latest Locus: editing track point location doesn't work and insert new point into track is completely missing. Is that intentional?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 18:37:51
There's a bug in latest Locus: editing track point location doesn't work and insert new point into track is completely missing. Is that intentional?
"latest" means?
because in new beta it works like https://youtu.be/B_dB4g23ph4
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 27, 2015, 19:15:35
@balloni: thanks, "Delete" fixed. About "copy" - try to copy track in tracklist to same folder ;)

@0709: correct, different sounds for left/right are not implemented for now. Consider this as a first step. Instead of different sounds I think about simplified TTS messages. What you think?

When you set distance on change to 50m, then you may see guiding line to track, which is always at least 50 metres long. And locus notify on changes based on this line. So when you set this line to 200m, then you'll usually get notifications 200 metres before they appear. Does it make sense or is this system useless?

To prevent using generator for compute extra waypoints, use "notify on every trackpoint". This should prevent generating extra navigation waypoints by generator.

Error message ... interesting. I'll check it, thanks. Probably a problem in TTS file, where someone forget to change %D to %D1, gynta? :)

@Guido Farina: glad to hear it.

@gynta: in "Training manager" will be a lot more incorrect words. As you maybe noticed, I do not even placed these words to Crowdin because I'm still not sure about many words etc. Keep this is early Beta version.

Error in store - hmm probably Peters change on server, thanks! I've forwarded this issue to him.

And leaving manager empty - hmm seems to be missing some "Dismiss" button. Fine
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 19:33:09
Probably a problem in TTS file, where someone forget to change %D to %D1, gynta? :)

edit
you'r right! found some missing %Dx 
:o
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 27, 2015, 19:48:57
Quote
About "copy" - try to copy track in tracklist to same folder ;)
thats correct, but  it doesn´t matter how copy is done and to which folder ,it should have allways the addition "copy"

My first attempt with new "Guidance" on my jogging tour this afternoon
Settings:
- general device time out 30 sec.
- screen ON/OFF control ON and all options checked
- next wpt notification "text to speech"

action > screen on and TTS info allways 90 m in front of wpt :), eg "turn left"
but while hiking (1,5m/sec) after 45 meter, and while jogging (2,5m/sec) after 75 meter the screen turn off :P
so if i reach the wpt screen is off  :o and i didn´t recognize which way "left" i should take, sometimes 2 or 3 ways are possible.
So my idea, start count down for screen off if wpt is reached, so screen is allways on in area of wpt :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2015, 20:58:20
rec widget starts locus pro - so i  delete pro - and now...
...widgets are gone.
damn  ;D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 27, 2015, 21:24:48
@gynta: hmm yes, there were issues in English, but mentioned error is probably in german TTS file. Please check it, there should be now changed values %D to %D1 or %D2. In case of german translation, you seems to use %D2 in same as %D1, so there should be in all actions value %D1. I can explain more deeply in TTS topic, if won't be clear why this.

@balloni: hmm interesting idea. I'll try to improve it if I do not forget :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 27, 2015, 22:17:16
On some occasions this message appears using the testversion. (Selecting TTS)

Willy you are using own TTS, modified file? If so, may you share it with me? If not, which language you use for TTS?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 28, 2015, 01:36:33
On some occasions this message appears using the testversion. (Selecting TTS)
Willy you are using own TTS, modified file? If so, may you share it with me? If not, which language you use for TTS?
found some issue also in de.tts - sorry!
plz download (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Nr4CT8osmtQ3hnTVRNTjlfT00&usp=sharing) de.tts and copy to your Locus/data/tts folder
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 28, 2015, 10:57:09

"latest" means?
because in new beta it works like https://youtu.be/B_dB4g23ph4

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or this is a Locus bug since editing track doesn't seem to me working even in beta neither in stable - I select existing track on map, choose 'Edit on map', move to last waypoint and invoke tool menu - there's command Edit/insert point. Locus offers location picker however after confirming which the new location isn't saved anywhere - last wpt is still last and still in place. Here even it's not clear if the selected location is considered as new waypoint after the last or is new location of last waypoint. Ambiguity?

Btw. now I see the video and the stretch mode seems not present even in beta,Locus still offers only simple (nonworking) location picker
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 28, 2015, 12:00:16
...In attachment: ... customised compact "en.tts" file...
...
...

Code: [Select]
{
"version": 2,
"language": "en",
"actions_A": {
"action_dist": "%D %A",
"arrive_at_dest": "Finish",
"arrive_at_dest_dist": "%D from Destination",
"straight": "Straight",


hmm
Menion has changed some parameters.
please read README.txt and compare new V3(!) en.tts file version. (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Nr4CT8osmtQ3hnTVRNTjlfT00&usp=sharing)

@Menion
Locus copy a sample into tts folder called "en_sample_v1.tts"
Shouldn't be "en_sample_v3.tts" ?

 
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 28, 2015, 12:03:50
Btw. now I see the video and the stretch mode seems not present even in beta
but this clips was made with last beta.
strange..

edit
just for info:
short tap on a point and move immediately - moves point
long tap - open edit popup
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 28, 2015, 12:16:24
@gynta: sorry I didn't notice the editing mode is present. Editing seems working fine in both beta and stable, however I still can't find the way to insert new points to track - clicking anywhere outside existing track exits the Insert/Edit trackpoint mode immediately (I can only edit or delete existing points). Any hint how inserting new points works please?

Edit: nevermind ;) inserting points works fine, I didn't get immediately the edit system change Thanks gynta.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 29, 2015, 17:41:07
Hello, I have a suggestion to this beta new feeature:
Quote
- add: function that 'cut' part of track on map
It would be nice if Locus also was able to insert an existing track between two waypoints of another track, or yet better replace an user defined track part defined by starting and ending waypoint by another track, optionally saving the result to new track. This would be very helpful for creating track alternatives without having to complexly split/join the track.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 29, 2015, 17:45:15
Hello, I have a suggestion to this beta new feeature:
Quote
- add: function that 'cut' part of track on map
It would be nice if Locus also was able to insert an existing track between two waypoints of another track, or yet better replace an user defined track part defined by starting and ending waypoint by another track, optionally saving the result to new track. This would be very helpful for creating track alternatives without having to complexly split/join the track.

You can read minds - great idea !
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 29, 2015, 18:08:54
Planning the details of a 2 week Morocco trip (incl. Atlas mountains), I found a number of missing features in addition (to above insert track), that can easily be fixed:
1) getting from a track point to the chart, with vertical line already put in (the other way round is there - from position in chart you can get to the point on the map easily)
2) Point popup content configuration should also offer "Navigate FROM"
3) Point popup content configuration should also offer "Edit"
You may see that I LOVE "Point popup content configuration" feature as such - users simply need to get more freedom of choices :-)
TXs and cheers
Michael
PS: "cut from track" works nicely - TXs for that tool
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on March 29, 2015, 18:25:31
Hi menion,

Locus 3.7.1.2 will be expired tomorrow. (it's already today in Japan :'(, so far working ;)). Do you plan to release next beta soon? Duration is too short for testing features.
EDIT:
I noticed that if date is set before 30th March in android settings, beta version works.

Quote
(chg: list of custom icons is now sorted)
Before this change, Locus shows the icon packs in the same order as the copying order of the packs to the icons folder. So it was somehow possible to sort icon packs as you like in Locus. Unfortunately this secret and useful trick has been lost. Out of curiosity, could you tell me the purpose of this change?

One issue in Hardware devices setting. "Heart rate monitor" becomes "No text!".
(http://s23.postimg.org/ecj4ic3l3/hardware_devices.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ecj4ic3l3/)    (http://s30.postimg.org/55ebns3d9/no_text.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/55ebns3d9/)

p.s. I like Training feature very much. Thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 29, 2015, 22:02:59
Ideas / requests from Bucky Kid and michaelbechthold:
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
+1
.....
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 29, 2015, 23:51:47
guys, you know best place for ideas and votes... ;D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on March 30, 2015, 06:36:20
New Guidance system takes voice words from crowdin text instead of tts text.
While on the other hand, labels below waypoint icon shows tts text. Why?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 30, 2015, 07:01:45
@gynta :-)

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/addreplace-part-of-a-track-by-another-track (quoted Bucky Kid)

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/getting-from-a-track-point-to-its-chart-position

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/add-popup-content-configuration-item-navigate-from

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/add-popup-content-configuration-item-edit

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 30, 2015, 09:41:45
voted after quoted 8)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 30, 2015, 11:22:56
@gynta: "v3" fixed, thanks

@ta-ka: hmm, I sometimes forget to define correct validity date to Beta version, sorry. I'll release new beta during a week. Thanks for HRM label, I noticed this also, fixed

Sorting of icons - isn't more logical to have them sorted by name, then "random"? - http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/sort-icon-lists-for-waypoints

your guidance takes voices from crowdin? Hmm this should happen only when there is any issue with TTS file. Have to check your ja.tts if it works - EDIT: hmm seems to work correctly. Are you sure that tts file is not used?

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 30, 2015, 12:52:39
Quote
I sometimes forget to define correct validity date to Beta version, sorry
not a problem for me, only for your information,
message: "Now locus works as Free"
but it works furthermore as PRO, i found no limitation, so e.g. GC features, weather or map overlay work.
not that you lose a lot of money ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 30, 2015, 13:57:42
hmm money ... , if believe it won't be too bad. Better satisfied testers then few sold paid versions ;).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 30, 2015, 14:11:50
@0709: I'm sorry, but I'm almost always little bit confused from your posts. They usually contains really a lot of information and I feel quite lost ... "what to do with it". 

Firstly, please continue in some related topic, for example this one http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4178.0 or http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4383.0 . Write me simple basic tasks or questions to discuss. If topics are long or confusing for me, I usually leave them, because there is a lot more work to do, then thinking what You or anyone other wanted to say. Thanks for understanding

EDIT: thanks for updates. A lot better for me now!

So
post #62: may you share with me a simple track with navigation waypoints in TCX file? Because it should work. Visual signs ... hmm will be harder, thanks.
post #67:
1. too many waypoints. I read some request about reducing amount of generated waypoints, but where? :).
2. some "tuning possibility" - not sure, how many people may find this useful for now ...

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on March 30, 2015, 16:44:36
your guidance takes voices from crowdin? Hmm this should happen only when there is any issue with TTS file. Have to check your ja.tts if it works - EDIT: hmm seems to work correctly. Are you sure that tts file is not used?
The issue happens in English voice. So it will happen in all languages. I confirmed once again using dummy en.tts which contains a test word "TTS" everywhere in the file. Please have a look at and listen to a video.
Results are:
- The Voice of "Next waypoint" notification doesn't come from en.tss because Locus doesn't say "TTS" at all.
- The Voice of "Out of track" notification comes from en.tss. You'll hear a lot of "TTS, TTS, TTS...".
- The label texts at waypoints come from en.tts. You'll see "TTS" at the beginning of the labels except "DEST".
- Locus says "make a U turn" just before the destination. Firstly this is simply strange because it's on the straight road. Secondary it indicates that the words come from crowdin text.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9emy0bswan9vs4o/20150330_guidance_tts.mp4?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/9emy0bswan9vs4o/20150330_guidance_tts.mp4?dl=0)

Quote
Sorting of icons - isn't more logical to have them sorted by name, then "random"? - http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/sort-icon-lists-for-waypoints
Thanks for answer, I didn't notice there was a request with 4 votes.All right, I should accept.  :)

Quote
I'll release new beta during a week.
Thanks.  :D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on March 30, 2015, 19:49:32
My first experiences with "training manager" and following settings on my jogging round
Thank you for a good step forward in development ;)

(http://s2.postimg.org/r8wf3ln39/Screenshot_2015_03_30_19_16_54.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/r8wf3ln39/)
Time interval is set 0:30, so i expected all 30 seconds i get info, but the interval after start is 0:30, 1:30, 2:30, 3:30 and so on
Perhaps setting means all 30 seconds after full minute?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 30, 2015, 20:56:19
Trainingsmanager is only available in Beta within testing time?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 30, 2015, 21:03:41
yes and no - it works in test after end of test period
settings - trackrec - training manager
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 30, 2015, 23:08:57
training manager. .. nice step ahead! And urgently needed.
I miss requests on help desk :(
Intervals works as expected (Balloni - is there a Frosch in your installation? )
Variables are great !

Where to put feature requests for next stage?
: training manager as program module independent from trac rec
: features for i.e. interval training (two time values to set = 60s work + 30s interval / break),
: repeat modus (x times or endless),
: count down
: stop watch like dashboard
: option to trigger training manager by track rec
: Audio signals as beep or from tts.
: a.s.o.

"training manager desc" in track rec settings is missing (I know that you know ;) )

Great stuff!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 30, 2015, 23:38:32
@ta-ka: hmm thanks, very helpful. I found an older code from times, when TTS file wasn't so useful as now. I've improved whole system and now it should work as expected.

4 votes in case of such simple task, was enough for me. I had no idea, that there may be anyone who was aware of sorting in old system. Is it a bigger usability problem or you may live with it? :)

@0709: you are editing your posts right before my nose :).

Anyway I took recorded track, then started navigation (which in case of recorded track, generated navigation waypoints thanks to nav generator). After that I over navigation menu displayed track and exported it to TCX file.

Re-import: issue with inability to delete waypoints NOT confirmed. For the first time I saw same issue, but after second try, no matter what I do, I'm unable to simulate it, damn. Anyway start guidance/navigation never generates new navigation waypoints - edit: ah, issue on my side found and fixed, thanks! In case, track already contains any, navigation generator is never used (*will be never used since next beta version).

@balloni55: heh, Locus had problems with times where was '0 seconds' :). Fixed, thanks.

@christian: did you saw first "most popular" idea? : http://help.locusmap.eu/topics/idea/status/all/category/all/sort/popular/page/1 :).

Btw. read my last post please: http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/training_manager_add_on#comment-15318
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on March 31, 2015, 00:03:33
I stopped reading this thread one year ago because I'm not really interested in HRM (I'm heartless ;)  )
So I miss your comment also :(
Using help desk with smartphone is a mess. That's why I try to avoid it :(

Not sure if its clever to keep a light version of training manager.  Guess there are a lot of bikers / runners would like to use it....
But better to have a light version running properly than nothing.
Thanks for implementing.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 31, 2015, 00:34:39
you are welcome. I'm aware of many possible scenarios of usage ... as usually :). But I really think that some more advanced features form Endomondo, Runtastic and other similar apps, do not belongs to Locus. Notification on some values over certain period is from my point of view, ideal feature useful by almost all people, no matter if they wants to train on marathon or not.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on March 31, 2015, 10:38:14
ah got it, thanks.

Here is a small problem. Delete and edit of points is generally not possible in Locus for temporary tracks! So track generated by "navigation generator" is in this case temporary (not stored in database). If you export this track and re-import into database (not directly on a map), points should be editable.

Question is, make it sense to allow edit and delete waypoints at track for tracks, that will be lost when you close Locus?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on March 31, 2015, 13:54:42
@ta-ka: hmm thanks, very helpful. I found an older code from times, when TTS file wasn't so useful as now. I've improved whole system and now it should work as expected.
Good :)
Quote
4 votes in case of such simple task, was enough for me. I had no idea, that there may be anyone who was aware of sorting in old system. Is it a bigger usability problem or you may live with it? :)
I can live with that. Don't worry.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on March 31, 2015, 22:05:53
@ta-ka: ...forget to define correct validity date to Beta version, sorry. I'll release new beta during a week.
please allow to use the rec widget also in next beta test version for testing new autostart functions - defined in profiles.

.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 01, 2015, 13:32:18
in case of widget, it is not so simple, sorry.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 01, 2015, 20:13:46
i have used new "Guidance" a few times and it work well :)
one thing i am missing, at the end of the track there is no notification e.g. "you have reached your target"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 01, 2015, 20:19:00
yes I noticed this too. Then I did some changes due to ta-ka discoveries and during today test, it was ok. So I hope, problem solved :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 02, 2015, 09:15:54
with Beta-FREE map preview in track list isn´t visible
if i change "use style of folder" to refrech map preview, for short time worldmap is visible, after that no map only name of towns are visible.
If i refrech preview in PRO map preview is displayed in Beta-FREE
(http://s4.postimg.org/rmfnu4co9/Vorschau.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rmfnu4co9/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 02, 2015, 09:27:56
hmm but below first track is! visible some map. Do you have vector map available for this region also in beta version? So to be more precise - are there same maps available for both versions?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 02, 2015, 09:53:57
Quote
are there same maps available for both versions?
no :o so sorry for trouble
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 02, 2015, 10:05:26
fine, no problem :). Locus iterate over all available vector maps, if there is at least one available for this area. It is of course possible, that check should be incorrect, because of some remaining issues in bounding areas of vector maps. But I'm glad it wasn't this case :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 03, 2015, 00:52:52
beta 3.7.1.3
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35585#msg35585 - fixed,
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35588#msg35588 - fixed
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4461.msg35583#msg35583 - fixed
thank you Menion

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35455#msg35455 - not "fixed"
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4461.msg35495#msg35495 - not "fixed"
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35556#msg35556 - not "fixed"

new: Some FC with BTmanager - i will check it again tomorrow - Logfile in dropbox
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 03, 2015, 07:03:15
Thanks for test, so bugs are fixed, suggestions not, it's ok.

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35455#msg35455

I understand an issue, but have no better suggestion. And because no one complains, no need to do something with it for now

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4461.msg35495#msg35495

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4461.msg35491#msg35491 - Michal is our boss on English now, so what he say is saint for me :)

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg35556#msg35556

Oki so better - "Start \'Bluetooth manager\' and select default device"

EDIT: about FC, thanks for log. But I see nothing useful in it. Some way to reproduce? Only in the end of log is some ANR issue (application not responding), is this mentioned problem?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on April 03, 2015, 12:24:30
@ta-ka: hmm thanks, very helpful. I found an older code from times, when TTS file wasn't so useful as now. I've improved whole system and now it should work as expected.
I confirmed that "Next waypoint" notification come from tts file now in 3.7.2.3.
However there are issues remained. (confirmed with guidance.gpx attached again below)
- Locus says "after 300m turn around" before the end point "DEST".
- Locus doesn't say about approching to the destination.

And, One request please.  I would like to translate "DEST".

Quote from: gynta
don't see "built the project" on crowdin 8)
Quote from: menion
hehe :)
version without translation
:'(
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on April 03, 2015, 14:39:09
@balloni55: heh, Locus had problems with times where was '0 seconds' :). Fixed, thanks.
'0 minutes' not fixed.  :(

After one hours passed, locus talks only hours and minutes. I think there should be seconds, too.
Currently, if time interval is set to 30 sec, Locus talks the same "X hours Y minutes" twice at 0 sec and 30 sec.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on April 03, 2015, 21:09:08
Sun was shining, so i started first test of guidance with latest beta.
At first: it works! My dream come true!
Default settings are correct for automatic display activation.
But... the beta is unstable, stopped 1x and another time I got an black screen, did not know how to get rid of it while trailrunning :( But guidance was still active, could hear beeping before the junctions.
The navigational commands are sometimes wrong. Obviously you have to go left but the command is "keep right". See screenshot.
The beeps before arriving the junctions are to early than too late. See comments above.
I will keep trying and maybe I will find another issues. When issues written above are fixed in the next public release we can step on the next stage: simple sounds.
Just now i'm really happy about the new guidance :D

Edit wants to say that i got some ugly errors like "you are not allowed to post in this forum" or "too less memory for thid operation" and others :( If anyone is interested in an admjn for tapatalk plugin....I will do it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 03, 2015, 21:30:43
After starting Locus:
(http://s28.postimg.org/cax6282hl/Screenshot_2015_03_18_20_23_44.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cax6282hl/)
I think "Select default Bluetooth device" is enough because Locus already has started.
Oki so better - "Start \'Bluetooth manager\' and select default device"
Nope, because message also pops up inside BTmanager (Ater switch on)
(http://s14.postimg.org/sbfxc3orx/Screenshot_2015_04_03_20_53_26.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sbfxc3orx/)

btw..
And here is another problem. see clip:
at second...
00:13 - Locus is searching... without break. (I cut 4 minutes waiting time in the clip)
00:31 - I have to switch OFF and ON to popup the device list and after this, searching for devices works as expected.

hope it's clear what I mean :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 03, 2015, 21:45:34
I'm not able to see the difference and effect of this Quick setting.
(http://s2.postimg.org/dc3yfjcj9/2015_03_18_145306.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dc3yfjcj9/)  (http://s2.postimg.org/qezkyt2r9/2015_03_18_145241.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qezkyt2r9/)
I understand an issue, but have no better suggestion. And because no one complains, no need to do something with it for now
suggestion
On crowdin do you use one word "notify_out_of_track" for both(!) functions.
better is: one string for guiding - and one for navigation.
eg(!)
\"Out of track\" notify (Navigation)
and
\"Out of track\" notify (Guidiance)
or similar..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 03, 2015, 21:54:41
about FC. Some way to reproduce?
Sure. See "02.FC BT" in our dropbox.
(New CatLog + Clip)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 03, 2015, 22:58:34
@0709: hmm good old guiding system in action. When I change it to same system as for navigation, where will be a difference compare to "Navigation"? isn't what you want just "Navigation" without purple line and arrows in top left corner?

@ta-ka: are you really interested in seconds when you are in time, more then hour since start? Because here it is not an issue, but intent.

@Christian: report "unstable" do not help me, sorry. Wrong commands - attach me please an exported GPX so I may test it, thanks.

@gynta: hmm found maybe a one possible problem, why orange popup appear, so next version. About texts in Quick settings ... oki, give up, thanks :)

About FC: hmm in log is

04-03 20:31:21.242 F/libc    (14296): @@@ ABORTING: INVALID HEAP ADDRESS IN dlfree
04-03 20:31:21.242 F/libc    (14296): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0xdeadbaad (code=1)

Seems to be some issue in Android native library. This never happen before? Did you do any system update of your device?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 03, 2015, 23:54:34
About FC: hmm in log is
04-03 20:31:21.242 F/libc    (14296): @@@ ABORTING: INVALID HEAP ADDRESS IN dlfree
04-03 20:31:21.242 F/libc    (14296): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0xdeadbaad (code=1)
Seems to be some issue in Android native library. This never happen before? Did you do any system update of your device?
Maybe - but I'm able to simulate this FC/restart on all my 3 devices (see profile).
If you can't help - no problem for me. I only have to be careful with quick tapping :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on April 04, 2015, 00:45:07
commands - attach me please an exported GPX so I may test it, thanks.
....gpx attached.
Next time i will try to create a log before starting next test run.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: ta-ka on April 04, 2015, 06:27:58
@ta-ka: are you really interested in seconds when you are in time, more then hour since start? Because here it is not an issue, but intent.

I somehow foresee that this is an intent. ;) My case is middle-range running more than one hour and I want to know time with seconds at every 1.0 km even after 10 km or so. The explanation in my previous post was so bad. sorry.

In any case, please note that no voice at every '0 minutes' is the issue as same as already fixed '0 seconds' issue.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 04, 2015, 07:21:06
How about a separate forum group for Navigate, Guiding, Routing, TTS, Voice,... aso ?
And in the longer term the online manual could do with a lot more information in this area too, maybe some doco+video in tutorial style in additional to the existing reference manual style. Several terms like coursepoints, waypoints are often discussed here but never fully described that I can find. Then there are the "invisible" points along a track that BRouter creates, what are these called?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 04, 2015, 15:34:25
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one thing i am missing, at the end of the track there is no notification
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So I hope, problem solved :).
unfortunately not :-[
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on April 04, 2015, 15:52:58
Confirm: no notification at the end except beep from "away from track"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 04, 2015, 21:36:05
Because it is just a two days since previous beta and changes are mainly because of your feedback, I'll rarely publish version over here on forum.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Nr4CT8osmtQkpmQ2hzNERJSEk/view?usp=sharing

Hope, it will be again a little bit better then version before.

And please mainly 0709 and others who care about navigation/guidance system. Choose ideally one existing topic and continue in discussion about this there. Because I sometimes have really troubles to grab all required information or answer/fix all reported issues. That's why I like help desk, because it is easy to report and check progress of one single topic ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on April 04, 2015, 22:07:18
Good start, Menion. Now use this momentum to add the edit option to tracks, too, and the Navigate From ... :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 04, 2015, 23:01:18
About Trainigsmanager
(http://s28.postimg.org/rni5pke4p/2015_04_04_224615.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rni5pke4p/)
thats for live tracking - you use it twice


(http://s28.postimg.org/5j3eey0ll/2015_04_04_224753.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5j3eey0ll/)
better "TTS Setting" because "Settings of sound" has different meaning on crowdin


from...
(http://s28.postimg.org/xkhfsn5vt/2015_04_04_224832.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xkhfsn5vt/)
Icon pack should be...
(http://s28.postimg.org/hc17j5x1l/2015_04_04_224923.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hc17j5x1l/)
not...
(http://s28.postimg.org/wjh73iow9/2015_04_04_224956.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wjh73iow9/)


"T:" means?
(http://s29.postimg.org/k66gtge77/2015_04_05_002310.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/k66gtge77/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 05, 2015, 00:47:42
Andrew. No manual, no specialised group ( a moderator ?). In non technical words so mine:
Courses(tracks) and Coursepoints(waypoints) belong to .tcx files. Garmin system and terminology (edit)
Thanks 0709. There is a manual discussing points, tracks - http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php?id=manual:data:data_basics. Does it just need improvement? I assume Locus staff are the moderators? Good doco hopefully means less questions, less support, happy knowledgeable users, more sales.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 05, 2015, 06:08:42
Hello, in new beta, when entering point insert / edit mode, the map zoom resets to 100%. I find this uncomfortable. Can the current zoom stay preserved  (choose the behaviout via config.cfg ?)

- conversion to navigation waypoint works good but I notice once I place at least one own navigation instruction, on the other hand I lose all other auto-generated instructions. Can auto-commands still be preserved? On imported track from gpx I still have autocommands.

- once I add my navigation waypoint the navigation trail disappears up to that waypoint when entering navigation mode. I think this is bug. This doesn't happen with track imported from gpx.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 05, 2015, 07:36:03
Thanks guys for a quick tests!

@michaelbechtold: similar as with points, I'm not convinced about need of "edit" button for tracks, and it's even worst with "Navigate from", sorry

@gynta: hmm, description fixed, "TTS settings" set, icons changed (agree), "T:" means text I not yet added to translation and in this case I forget to change it for already translated "Add variable". Thanks, fixed

@Andrew Heard: new manual is in very active preparation. We started from scratch since January and currently most of English part is done. Currently we do some UI improvements (images, layout) and I really hope that will end of April, Michal (guy who write it) will be done with core of English part and we will publish it ...

@Bucky kid: My point here was that as least I, personally ofter tap to edit/insert in cases, zoom is really far a way and I then have to zoom a lot to see editing points clearly. So I'll try not to zoom, when you are already +- zoomed.

- If you use "Create copy and generate  commands", completely new set of navigation waypoints is created. So there should be only a mess if all remain (old and new). That's why old are removed

- disapearing track, thanks, I'll try to simulate and fix it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 05, 2015, 08:02:54
#119 solved :)
with improved commands!
but on reversely guidance it is furthermore missing and all commands are 180° mirrored.

EDIT: creating a copy of track with commands and changed orientation it seams to be all ok, fieldtest will follow ;)
EDIT2: fieldtest with copied tracks work in both directions very well :)

naming of track after creating a copy is allways _copy
so after a while i do not remember what i have done :-[
my suggestion:
copy > _copy
copy + reverse orientation > _copy_rev
copy + reverse orientation + navigation commands > _copy_rev_nav
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 05, 2015, 10:02:26
I'll try not to zoom, when you are already +- zoomed.
If you're zoomed ‹100% then resetting zoom is useful, but at zooms ›100% I think it should stay.

- If you use "Create copy and generate  commands", completely new set of navigation waypoints is created. So there should be only a mess if all remain (old and new). That's why old are removed
Thanks for explaining. The track was created without navigation instructions. I think that on track created in Locus with help of routing Locus keeps list of all tapped points for re-routing (rerouting still works on saved track). If I add own navigation icon on such track, this waypoint should be added to list of pass-through places so that Locus could continue auto-generating navigation commands along all the track (except the points where I add own commands)

Adding navigation waypoints to imported track doesn't have any effect - routing symbol not displayed neithet on track neithet in navigation panel.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 05, 2015, 19:26:09
one minor issue
in TTS settings "the test phrase" is written in german language although language of locus is english and testtext is also spoken in english
(http://s11.postimg.org/6dxp13nyn/TTS.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6dxp13nyn/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 06, 2015, 05:36:15
in TTS settings "the test ...
@Menion
Suggestion.
Don't save this phrase on exit. Doesn't matter. You always can use the default string from crowdin.
Just an idea...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: michaelbechtold on April 06, 2015, 21:14:53
@michaelbechtold: similar as with points, I'm not convinced about need of "edit" button for tracks, and it's even worst with "Navigate from", sorry

Well, 1000s of users have more use cases than a single person can imagine. And only very few participate in discussions and forums - mostly the same crowd since years; I am using and following Locus closely since years ...

The ability to configure context menues was a great move - and it turns "need" discussions into a religious exercise. Let the users - ANY user, outspoken, vocal or not - decide for themselves.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 07, 2015, 13:30:55
@balloni: reverse guidance fixed

@balloni55, @gynta: thanks agree, I won't store changed text so there will be always text from Crowdin

@michaelbechtold: yes, very low of them is really active. Which is OK to be true, cannot imagine twice more amount of topic. Anyway what I miss are votes on help desk. Can image that topic may have more then 1000 votes ... but for now, just in dreams ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 07, 2015, 14:42:54
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action > screen on and TTS info allways 90 m in front of wpt :), eg "turn left"
but while hiking (1,5m/sec) after 45 meter, and while jogging (2,5m/sec) after 75 meter the screen turn off :P
so if i reach the wpt screen is off  :o and i didn´t recognize which way "left" i should take, sometimes 2 or 3 ways are possible.
So my idea, start count down for screen off if wpt is reached, so screen is allways on in area of wpt
in new version the distance for announcement is set to 100 meter, for biking this distance is ok, but for jogging and hiking announcement  is too early.
A option (checkbox) "distance of announcement 50 m" while selecting guidance would be helpfull ;)

Furthermore it would be a benefit that next announcement appeares earliest if last navigation wpt is passed.
e.g.
on A1 i get announcement  for navigation wpt N1 "stay right, on A2 i get announcement  for navigation wpt N2 "stay left" although i havend passed  N1


(http://s11.postimg.org/h7zxu00hr/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/h7zxu00hr/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 07, 2015, 14:46:15
100 m is defined by settings "Set next point" in guidance settings. If you want notification in a way you write, I think we can "Guidance" remove from Locus completely and keep only existing "Navigation" :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 07, 2015, 18:57:07
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100 m is defined by settings "Set next point" in guidance settings
thanks for pointing me on this :) so it works fine for me 8)
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I think we can "Guidance" remove from Locus completely
No, please not, Guidance is my favorit !
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 07, 2015, 20:58:01
@balloni55: there is now a smaller difference between guidance and navigation. I'll have to create some, long time requested, "simple notification about left/right", which should improve guidance (to be more "different").
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 09, 2015, 14:59:49
@menion - tracks colouring by distance delta is not much helpful. A mostly hilly track with total 800m uphill elevation is shaded in this coulouring mode mostly in green to blue colours -> confusing because even slightly ascending parts are drawn in green or even blue shade. I suggest to always bind precise green to 0m elevation, so that ascening segments will always draw in scale green -> red and descending segments will always draw in scale green -> blue (user can clearly distinguish segments descent/ascent). Best if the colour tone power should be derived from segment slope (°) and not absolute elevation delta?

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 09, 2015, 15:09:21
this is what I've done today morning ... http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/different-colours-for-uphill-descent-parts-of-track#comment-15555
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 09, 2015, 16:53:19
Ah I had same idea ;)
thanks for changing it
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 10, 2015, 13:39:35
with "edditing on map" i want to delete a navigation point from track.
When i move with arrow button to this "navigation track point" the navigation icon appeares on 2 trackpoints so it´s not always clear which i have to delete :-[
in my example it is the first in driving direction ;)
on vertical tracklines it´s more difficult to see the trackpoint because label couvers trackpoints
see video
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 10, 2015, 15:24:38
zoom in.
 ::)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 10, 2015, 19:32:12
zoom in.
 ::)
of course, if i zoom in up to 400% ::)
but if i want to "clean" the track from unneeded navigation points, i want to do that with an overview over track section to recognize which points are unneeded, jump to this point and delete it. Not allways zoom in and zoom out.
It is allways one trackpoint which consist the navigation info and this point i want to hit in first attempt ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on April 10, 2015, 22:32:24
Second test (http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3318.msg36011#msg36011) of the new guidance feature  ;D
I like it.

Edit is woundering about the "centering the map-button" wich is sometimes deactivated automatically in this Beta. Why?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 11, 2015, 08:07:43
@balloni55: and isn't faster to just tap on a trackpoint you wants to delete?

@christian: if you wants to have centering enabled permanently, check if you have enabled settings > map - control > hold map center (or long click on centering button directly on a map)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on April 11, 2015, 10:50:04
Advanced settings for simple users ;)
Thanx for this info.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: balloni55 on April 11, 2015, 13:00:11
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and isn't faster to just tap on a trackpoint you wants to delete?
ok, you've convinced me ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Christian on April 15, 2015, 19:45:01
Another test of automatic display activation /guidance:
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3318.msg36112.msg#36112 (http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3318.msg36112.msg#36112)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: gynta on April 15, 2015, 23:40:09
rc 3.7.1.6
currently: trainings manager(TM) doesn't restart after break:
reproduce:
- record track (+TM)
- leave locus while record with "stop & exit" -> rec "paused"
- start locus and unpause
- silence...
________

I think there is an old de.tts included, right?
because i hear the "zero bug".
copy de.tts from your google drive folder will fix this problem.
________

btw.
a procedure still generates an old en_sample_v1.tts  :)
found it, in former clean tts folder (start only last rc version)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 16, 2015, 09:04:22
@0709: hmm, currently long click on left/right arrow move map center to first/last point of whole track. This may be changed to what you suggest, so long click should move over waypoints instead. What you think? Is anyway using long-click on these arrows to move to start/end of track?

@gynta: hmm good point. I was thinking about it earlier and wasn't sure what is best solution. Imagine another situation ... you disable (during track recording) training manager or BT HRM device because you do not need it anymore. Later you pause track record due to lunch and after start, Locus again connect all devices and enable training manager ...

Old tts - eh, probably yes. I've did small automatization for crowdin translation files, so they should be always actual. Anyway tts needs to be done still manually, so I sometimes forget :)

en_sample_v1 ... weird. Maybe some automatic backup of Locus Pro may did it, because as I'm checking latest code, it really should be fixed!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 16, 2015, 09:35:29
I'll try not to forget (which will probably happen :) ) and add this improved move left/right to beta version after update, not now as new version is planned on Saturday.

About updated support for TCX. Names should be fixed and TotalTimeSeconds. "Intensity" - not know for what is is good. And in time were any problem? Have to check it once more ... thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 17, 2015, 07:52:05
Nice track, fixed thanks :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 17, 2015, 10:21:27
Do you have enabled "Navigation > advanced > Strict navigation"? I'm trying to find what may cause this mess ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 18, 2015, 12:32:47
Version 3.7.1.6 Beta
Testing NaVigation module ! (not guiding module).
From ondesk to real drive test: using "Strict Navigation".
The instruction orders are changed from the actual correct behaviour in 3.7.1 Pro version.
I especially observed critical short combinations Navi-instructions.
Example: L/R combination 20m between turns.
About 10 seconds before Left turn there is the (-) dash tone sign, directly followed by the (..) double dot tone sign.
After finishing the Left turn, followed by (..) double dot tone sign, indicating the Right turn.

If your '-' is left and '..' is right then it is correct. Because in TTS messages should be:
first: "After x metres turn LEFT and then after y metres turn "RIGHT"
second: After z metres turn RIGHT

Same should happen no matter if you use "Strict navigation" or not.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 18, 2015, 15:21:18
sorry but I still do not understand. There should not be any change in this behavior..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Joachim Buhl on April 18, 2015, 15:47:10
Hello 0709

I do not get your point, sorry.
The "problem" with "overlapping" instructions on short L/R combinations is not new and I now this behavior from pro version.
At the moment Locus gives us two instructions before a turn. At bike speed its around 80m and 20m before turn.
If a following turn occurs within the 80m after the first turn, you get the first instruction for the second turn before the first turn. And Menion is right. With long instructions its  "After x metres turn LEFT and then after y metres turn "RIGHT". With short instructions (beeps) its - .. - T .. T             T for turn.
Is that your problem?
If we want to prevent that problem, Menion needs to change the instructions, so no instruction for the second next turn before next turn is finished. Is that your proposal? I would support this for bike (short instructions, beep), not for car.

In the other thread (Navigation generator) we found out, that navigation mode is more suitable for mtb than guiding mode.
We only need strict order for the waypoints. Menion implements that as an option to navigation mode now (thanks again). So we mtb guys will definitly use navigation mode now.

And I testes this "new" bike navigation mode. Here are my findings:
1. Strictly waypoints is really strict ;-). If you don't reach a point, due to unprecise GPS track or bad GPS reception, Locus sticks to the waypoint behind you, although you are going on with the track. In this moments you have to go to next waypoint manually. I see the problem: On the one hand it should be strict, on the other hand intelligent enough to take the next suitable waypoint if you "miss" one. Difficult. Is there a good solution Menion?
2. The modification of screen on/off is not really much better than before. Like I understand Menion, its still "time based". Whenever something goes wrong in timing from first instruction (screen on) to turn, the display is off before the turn. This happens with change of speed and also when you stop before a crossing. Maybe its typical for bike groups, but at 30% of all crossing there is a waiting time before turns. In these cases the screen is off when you want to go on with the track.
Is there a opportunity to make the screen on/off position dependend?
3. I assume the errors (no blue dots, no voice instruction) with manually added instructions will be solved in next versions.

Over all my great thanks to Menion. Its definitely going in the right direction and its fun to test and to help to make it better. I wish I could help you in programming, but I can't.

Bye

Joachim

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 18, 2015, 23:23:37
@Joachim Buhl:

it's more discussion to navigation topics, but because this topic will be soon closed, I think it never mind ...

1) don't use "Strict" more in navigation. Except cases, your tracks has same azimuth, Locus should not switch to incorrect track in navigation mode (like in your sample "8")

2) not so easy. For now, I'll leave it as is, but I'll try to improve it to next beta testing version

3) I hope so ...

Best what you and others may do, is "simple" testing, exactly as you do now! Even if you know programming for Android, I'm creating Locus itself as closed software. Because of time I invest to developing, I think that two regular devs will have same speed as myself ;). So no worry about help in programming ...

@0709: then I understand you correctly, I just had no idea, this happen in 3.7.1. Interesting, because what happen in older Locus Pro is definitely not correct!! What happen now in Beta is correct, because that's how it should work since begin and it's how it works for me also. It's exactly as I wrote here http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=4467.msg36208#msg36208 .

I personally think, that your custom morse code voice, should be replaced by some internal system in Locus that should be better optimized for this use-case. Have to think more about it during next weeks ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: menion on April 18, 2015, 23:51:20
Ah "only when imported TCX", here is the key! There was more problems with imported TCX during navigation. It's nicely visible on your video ... do you see pink fat line that should run right before the arrow, but that is somewhere far away? This is how Locus incorrectly computed some parameters. All is not fixed and in next public version, this fat line should be ok in all situations ... well, and this double notification as well, sorry. So what happen to you in latest BETA is really intent and fact, that it was not working like that in old Locus Pro, was an issue.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Joachim Buhl on April 19, 2015, 07:32:26
Hi All

Menion:
"1) don't use "Strict" more in navigation. Except cases, your tracks has same azimuth, Locus should not switch to incorrect track in navigation mode (like in your sample "8")"

"don't use "Strict" more in navigation". Should it be "don't use "Strict" any more in navigation"?
Because not to use it more makes no sense, does it?
"Except cases, your tracks has same azimuth...", means except for tracks, where parts of the tracks are like in my 8 track, right?
"...Locus should not switch to incorrect track in navigation mode", means Locus will not switch to wrong track part at my 8 track although "strict" is deactivated? Since when? What else was changed?

Language barrier, sorry.
Thanks

PS.: What do I have to do to get Voice/beep instructions in simulation mode like in the videos? In Pro and Beta I  can "simulate" when GPS is off, but I do not get any voice/beep instructions.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.7.x (16. 3. 2015)
Post by: Joachim Buhl on April 19, 2015, 09:11:10
Hello

Thanks 0709

the line "navigation_average_speed_bike=5.0" is already in my config file. No # before.
Should work.
Why not?

Thanks