Locus Map - forum

Support => Troubles & Questions => Topic started by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 18:17:14

Title: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 18:17:14
Hello guys

I am facing some little issues with Locus (currently Pro 2.12.2) on my Galaxy tab 2 7.0 and may someone out there have some recipe to help me.

1) Disable lock screen (in Settings/Global) doesn't seems to work

Even when the box is checked, it can't prevent my device to lock after the set time. I am using the pattern lock screen where you have to draw a pattern with your fingers on 9 dots.
So after the max time, the screen lock and I can't any more use the Home of Switch-task button to use another software.
But as Locus is still on the front, the only solution to access the unlock screen is to quit Locus.

Of course I could totally disable the lock when I want to use Locus but in that case, I have to re-enter my pattern every time I want to re-enable the lock.
Also, I have found a unreliable workaround : when entering or leaving the Settings screen of Locus, Locus switch for 1/2 second on the unlock screen. So if I am fast enough, I can unlock my device. But sometime I have to do it 2 or 3 times to be successful.

As any one else experienced the same behavior on a GyTab 2 ?
Any idea on how I can solve this ?


2) Awake screen by touching the screen

I have mainly 2 usages of the Tab + Locus : hiking and mountain biking.

When hiking, I am using the tab into a soft waterproof bag (http://https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9QofkYKWsMuOUhxMHZWdjhkWjA/edit?usp=sharing) hanging around my neck.
I generally let the screen turn off itself after 30 seconds or 1 minute (system setting) but Locus still runs in the background and so far I didn't see any issue with the track-log (no missing point) even when I have not set Locus as a service.
To wakeup the screen, I just have to press the power button which is easy through the soft bag.

For mountain biking, I just setup a waterproof box (http://https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9QofkYKWsMuRnVLWmpLMjZGWGc/edit?usp=sharing).
As for hiking, I don't need to watch the screen very often but the problem is that when I want to, I can't access any more the power button which is located on the side of the tablet (unreachable when the tablet is in the box).

As any one an idea how I could get the screen (backlight) switched off automatically after a time to save battery and waking up only by touching the screen ?

Thanks in advance for any idea.
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: gynta on June 09, 2013, 18:27:09
The last discussion about this similar topic starts here:
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3112#p20971 (http://forum.locusmap.eu/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3112#p20971)
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 18:50:21
Hi Gynta

I did see this discussion but :
- Topic does not cover the 2 points I am talking about, especially 1)
- Topic is closed at Menion has definitively removed the support for dimming and wake-lock
- Topic does not offer a solution

Thus the need to have a topic which can address it and comes to a solution.

Indeed the topic you are referring talks about Wakey.
But there is no users feedback which can tell if this is really efficient and what is the impact of such app on battery life.
Also I found another similar app "Wake lock"

Any feedback ?

Any feedback too on the "Prevent lock" issue on GyTab ?
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: tommi on June 09, 2013, 19:15:43
Hi barbudor,
did you follow the thread, gynta referred to, completely?
It is also talking about https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... s.screenon (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brilliant.apps.screenon)
Did you try?
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 19:51:53
Hi tommi

Indeed, I did not read it carefully enough and Screen ON seems to do the job except it works only in portrait mode while my tab is installed in landscape mode on my bike. Also it just dim the backlight and doesn't switch it fully off. And you have to run it every time before Locus.

Has any one a result with Wakey premium ? Would it be able to run automatically when I start Locus ?
Title: Re: AW: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: jusc on June 09, 2013, 20:30:28
Quote from: "tommi"
Hi barbudor,
did you follow the thread, gynta referred to, completely?
It is also talking about https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... s.screenon (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brilliant.apps.screenon)
Did you try?

In my eyes this is not the solution , because I could not find a way to get the screen back to normal brightness. Maybe someone has a hint. But as long as the display is dimmed, how can I see it in the sun?
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 20:56:17
So far, Screen ON seems to do the job when you select "Let it dim" mode.
After the system timeout, the screen dims, and you just have to touch the screen to wake it up.
No screen lock neither.
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: tommi on June 09, 2013, 21:08:10
Quote from: "barbudor"
Hi tommi

Indeed, I did not read it carefully enough and Screen ON seems to do the job except it works only in portrait mode while my tab is installed in landscape mode on my bike. Also it just dim the backlight and doesn't switch it fully off. And you have to run it every time before Locus.
In case I need another app when I use Locus I add it to the right panel. Though this isn't something automatic it nevertheless does a good job.
Ahm, I'm not sure as I rarely used it: Did Locus switch off the screen? I don't think so as the feature was called something with dimming.
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 21:12:54
I don't remember well how Locus used to behave before because I did not tried to use it on bike before.
It's just now that I finished to mount my waterproof case on the bike that I am wondering how to handle this [:)]
But I bet it was just dimming, not toal off.

Trying to purchase Wakey now but doesn't seems to work [:(] Keeps on "Downloading..."
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 09, 2013, 21:39:13
So I purchased Wakey premium for the AutoWake feature, expecting it :
- to start automatically when I use Locus,
- applying the dim/always-on mode only if Locus is in forefront
Neither of these features are working
So not worth the 1.90€,
Better stick to Screen ON, even if it works only in Portrait.
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: jusc on June 10, 2013, 07:38:31
Quote from: "barbudor"
So far, Screen ON seems to do the job when you select "Let it dim" mode.
After the system timeout, the screen dims, and you just have to touch the screen to wake it up.
No screen lock neither.

Thank you that was I´ve looked for.
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: gynta on June 10, 2013, 09:41:30
Quote from: "barbudor"
Hi gynta.. did see this discussion but:... Topic does not cover...
sorry for confusion, but as i wrote: "similar"  ;)
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: menion on June 10, 2013, 18:59:37
hi guys, to be true I do not want to read whole discussion :). Anyway I'm interested in this topic as well ... mainly what is so amazing on "dimmed" screen? Is it really so big battery saved? Isn't better turn off screen and then turn on when needed rather then keeping screen in some dimmed state?

Because fact that screen is on, means not just is shine a little (and consume batter on this), but also it mean that Locus know that screen is on and do much more operations that when screen is off. Mainly drawing a map.

When screen is off and you move, then locus still use your new GPS locations and use them for some operations, but worst - map rendering and handling with points - is not performed! So it's always much better to turn off screen then keep it dimmed. Btw. I have not measure it by any specialized tool, but it's my opinion from developer point of view ...
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: jusc on June 10, 2013, 19:45:31
Yes, you are right, with Note 2 you have about 6-7% battery lost p. hour with display off and 10-11% with dimmed display.
But perhaps I can use pressure sensor next time with stock rom.  ;)
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: menion on June 10, 2013, 19:49:47
pressure sensor? ah you wrote somewhere about some pressure sensor problems, but this is another topic. Just in short - don't use it with stock rom. I have note 2, I had stock rom and it has this problem - http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php/manual ... re_sensor1 (http://docs.locusmap.eu/doku.php/manual:altitude_manager#pressure_sensor1) - read last red box at bottom ;) (btw. now I have Omega v9.1 rom and it suffer with same problem ...)
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: jusc on June 10, 2013, 20:00:47
Yes I know, but my hope is, that a dimmed display is not turned off and the pressure sensor doesn´t go to sleep, because the display is only unvisible dark but not off. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 10, 2013, 20:29:37
Menion

Personally I don't care about dimmed screen. Off is much better in my opinion, and whatever in sun light dimmed screen is as black as off (unreadable).

The problem is to be able to wake up the screen just by pressing the touch screen without any hardware button because on mountain bike, my tablet is in a waterproof box which prevent me to access the power button on the side of the device.

So any solution :
- which switch off the back light for maximum saving
- which allow me to wake up the backlight just by touching the screen
- prevent the lock to occur (the option in Locus is inefficient on my GyTab2) so I can switch to another app without quittng Locus
would be perfect.

As of today, "Screen ON" and "Wakey Premium" are the closest solutions which dims the backlight (does not switch it off) and solve the other points.
Wakey Premium as the advantage over Screen ON :
- to support landscape mode
- no to quit each time I disable the "keep-awake" mode (Screen ON need to be restarted each time)
But the so called "AutoWake" which is supposed to automatically enable the keep-awake mode by identifying the app does not work (at least for Locus).
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: brotbuexe on June 17, 2013, 05:45:03
You should try https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... toscreenon (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon).
With proximity sensor you just have to touch the sensor area to wake the device.

You can set a timeout when the screen should go off again when nothing was touched.
You can set double touch to wake.

For hiking you could try using the gsensor instead of the proximity, if proximity wakes the device when you not using it.
(Because he uses the accelerometer, it should also be possible to add a feature which wakes the device by holding position...)
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: barbudor on June 17, 2013, 12:33:56
thanks,  I'll give it a try

edit
"Your device does not have a proximity sensor"
 :o  :evil:
Title: Re: Screen lock, dimming, waking up from screentouch
Post by: tommi on June 17, 2013, 12:47:32
Quote from: "barbudor"
thanks,  I'll give it a try

edit
"Your device does not have a proximity sensor"
 :o  :evil:
The actual reason for a proximity sensor is to switch screen off/on when phone is approaching the ear, I guess. So, why should a tablet have one?