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Support => Troubles & Questions => Topic started by: Forsberg on August 02, 2024, 16:41:53

Title: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: Forsberg on August 02, 2024, 16:41:53
Hello,

is there a way to avoid so many directions guides in navigation? Look at the screens below. In many cases the road was straight - I don't need to be reminded to go straight at every each crossroad. It should say to change the course only if I need to turn left/right or so. In Google maps u don't receive notification for each crossroad you pass by.

(https://i.imgur.com/JpARg7z.jpeg)

Also if there is a small change of road (look at the picture B) then this shouldn't be taken into account, as I go straight anyway - it is a bike, not a car so such small stuff can be omitted.

(https://i.imgur.com/jRJdJxb.jpeg)

Is there a way to limit this only to these directions where I actually change direction in real?
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: Graf Geo on August 02, 2024, 16:58:15
Screenshot 1: you can deactivate the "include navigation commands" option beforehand. Then the navigation instructions will only be created based on the direction changes of the route. There would be none here, as the route has no bends. You have to try it out.

Screenshot 2: the case is a matter of opinion. I prefer it this way as it is clearer. Sometimes, if the offset is only very slight, the presence would be superfluous, but where exactly should the limit be? Especially as it sometimes looks clearer in reality than on the map and vice versa.
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: GusGF on August 25, 2024, 00:14:41
Quoteyou can deactivate the "include navigation commands" option beforehand. Then the navigation instructions will only be created based on the direction changes of the route. There would be none here, as the route has no bends. You have to try it out.


I've tried to find this option but can't?!
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: Graf Geo on August 25, 2024, 10:51:36
In route planner. Choose planning mode and disable checkbox "include navigation commands".
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: Menion on August 26, 2024, 09:03:19
@Forsberg
Seems you also use Locus Classic. What router are you using? Because most probably you will be using GraphHopper, which is completely out of our control.

You may give a try to online LoRouter in the Locus Map 4 to see, if the results aren't better there. This first problem should be correct there and if not, we are at least able to look at it ...
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: Graf Geo on August 26, 2024, 12:16:37
Indeed, the "straight ahead" instruction is actually generated by LoRouter unnecessarily often in certain cases, especially in the city:

If I plan a route directly on a long street (not pavement!), no superfluous "straight ahead" instructions are generated.

If I plan in pedestrian mode (profile walking) along the same road on the pavement/sidewalk, numerous "straight ahead" directions are generated, not at road junctions, but always at the access roads to properties (driveways), which are naturally very common in the city. (OSM tag highway=service / service=driveway). And also at intersecting cycleways. See screenshots.

Somehow LoRouter thinks it has to generate a "straight ahead" instruction at every "driveway" and "cycleway" crossing. GraphHopper and BRouter do not generate these. Therefore I suspect a bug in LoRouter when routing on pavements.

Link: Route on pavement, numerous superfluous instructions at property access roads (LoRouter profile Walking)
https://link.locusmap.app/t/5247i2

Screenshot 3 is a straight way in a forest passing a allotment garden colony. A "straigt ahead" instruction is generated every few metres on every path/access road into the colony. A bit annoying.  8) 

Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: GusGF on August 26, 2024, 17:49:52
Quote from: Graf Geo on August 25, 2024, 10:51:36In route planner. Choose planning mode and disable checkbox "include navigation commands".

I've gone into route planner and I can't see planning mode!
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: Tapio on August 26, 2024, 20:51:33
Quote from: GusGF on August 26, 2024, 17:49:52
Quote from: Graf Geo on August 25, 2024, 10:51:36In route planner. Choose planning mode and disable checkbox "include navigation commands".

I've gone into route planner and I can't see planning mode!
Drawing mode. The big blue button.
Title: Re: Unneccesery direction guides in navigation
Post by: freischneider on August 26, 2024, 20:58:53
https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:tracks:planning#routing_mode

https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:tracks:planning#set_the_drawing_mode