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Versions
8. 4. 2024 - Locus 4.23.0

Quote from: balloni55 on April 08, 2024, 14:19:07When I log a geocache offline and try to add a picture first, the two selection options appear briefly only to disappear again immediately.

If I write the log first, I can add a picture afterwards

Navigation to screen centre creates a reverse route. (screen centre as start and actual position as destination).

This happens with all selected destinations. (contacts, my points, projection etc.)

I can't update Geocaches via Geocaching4Locus addon since this version.

Open listing
Click addon button
Click update or download logs
Seems that the addon app opens for a short while but closes instantly without doing anything

Integration of lab cache is great ...  8)

.... but it shows all lab caches inclusive found.

@Diddi: There is a very recent update of the Geocaching4Locus addon in the Playstore. Maybe that will solve your problem, I haven't tried it.

@Menion: Manual segments now seem to be permanently retained with "Recalculate all", even after saving the route. Perfect.

SG S10, Android 12

Quote from: Graf Geo on April 08, 2024, 20:25:24@Diddi: There is a very recent update of the Geocaching4Locus addon in the Playstore. Maybe that will solve your problem, I haven't tried it.

I see that my phone updated the addon last night automatically, so I can't say which app causes the error.
Live map with the addon isn't working too, While downloading caches works.

Quote from: jonny.blue on April 08, 2024, 20:13:10.... but it shows all lab caches inclusive found.

and filter settings to sort them out do not work either

The path can no longer be displayed for photos attached to a point.

Up to and including version 4.22.2, an info icon was displayed at the bottom right when the photo was opened, which could be used to call up the file path.

This no longer exists in the current version. Since I have attached photos from different folders on my device to points, I need this info and I would like to have it back.

update cache, the progress bar is no longer available
you cannot see whether the update is running or hanging

Edit: the update is not completed for folders with more than ~800 caches
Edit2: update didn´t work at all :-[

Quote from: Diddi on April 08, 2024, 19:54:30I can't update Geocaches via Geocaching4Locus addon since this version.

Open listing
Click addon button
Click update or download logs
Seems that the addon app opens for a short while but closes instantly without doing anything

The update also no longer works with version 4.22.2. Geocaching4Locus has been updated.

Quote from: Graf Geo on April 08, 2024, 17:26:22Navigation to screen centre creates a reverse route. (screen centre as start and actual position as destination). This happens with all selected destinations. (contacts, my points, projection etc.)

Supplement: It's about the "Navigate to" function, which calls up the "Select destination" menu. After selecting the destination (screen center, contacts, my points, projection etc.), a reverse route is calculated, which is nonsensical and the start and destination have to be swapped manually each time. Has nobody else noticed this? I can't imagine that this only happens on my device.

As the route is rarely created the right way round, I did some more testing. It seems that the error always occurs when there is a satfix before the destination is selected. If the GPS signal is still being searched for (message "Waiting for GPS...), the route is created correctly. Unfortunately, the normal case is that you already have your GPS and then the route is always displayed the wrong way round.

Furthermore, when starting the navigation (icon Quick navigation in the toolbar above) the assigned preset is not loaded reliably. Sometimes yes, sometimes no... I still have to see if I can find a reason for this.

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Quote from: Graf Geo on April 10, 2024, 14:30:27Has nobody else noticed this? I can't imagine that this only happens on my device

I now see it. Seems it doesn't always happen! If GPS is off beforehand, it works correctly: it adds the target as #2, takes time to turn on GPS, then adds gps pos as the starting position.

That's correct, but constantly turning GPS on and off is annoying, perhaps this bug will be fixed in the future for correct display.

@Graf Geo
problem with incorrect order of nav. points > should be fixed

missing path in the new gallery to attachments > added "Info" dialog

@Diddi
update of geocaches > there were some updates of Geocaching4Locus and if I am correct, the last one fixed this.

@jonny.blue
lab caches > and do you have disabled "Incl. found by me" at the end of the filter?

@balloni55
it is important to tell me if the feature comes from Geocaching4Locus or internal Locus Map. If you are un-sure, from where you start not working feature?

Quotelab caches > and do you have disabled "Incl. found by me" at the end of the filter?

Yes, of course ... ;)

And the shown lab caches are correctly marked as found with the FoundLabIcon.

Quote@balloni55
it is important to tell me if the feature comes from Geocaching4Locus or internal Locus Map. If you are un-sure, from where you start not working feature?

I don't know whether this comes from LM4 or GC4L
please watch the video
and sorry the behavior is exactly the vice versa as I wrote it in my post

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/aean9nmp24cey5um84ujl/add-photo.mp4?rlkey=el96yuooq2sstc9tb3bt1tiud&dl=0

@jonny.blue
I have a problem, I've never found a lab cache > so it is hard to test it :). Will try to fix it soon ...

@balloni55
hmm, I though you have a problem with the "update". Oki, this is a different problem. Sorry for this. Unfortunately, I've just now published a 4.23.1 version to Google Play, so this fix will have to wait till the next beta ...

Quote from: Menion on April 12, 2024, 08:03:24@Diddi
update of geocaches > there were some updates of Geocaching4Locus and if I am correct, the last one fixed this.

Updating geocaches does not work with
4.22.2
4.23.0
4 23.1
and
Geocaching4Locus 3.0.11

Quote from: flyingman_ch on April 12, 2024, 17:50:36

Quote from: Menion on April 12, 2024, 08:03:24@Diddi
update of geocaches > there were some updates of Geocaching4Locus and if I am correct, the last one fixed this.

Updating geocaches does not work with
4 23.1
and
Geocaching4Locus 3.0.11

confirm :-[

the only way to update a single cache is via the button at the top right of the listings window > Tools > Update geocache

Still the update cache problem.
One more reason to implement these features in Locus main app 8)

While searching for a way to update geocaches with V4.23.1, I encountered a problem.

For example, I have entered and saved the coordinates for a mystery that has a final WP without coordinates in the original.
If I search with the Locus "Live Map" or Locus "Search for geocaches" with filter "Mystery" and import them with "overwrite" the coordinates in the Final WP are set to 0 again.
This does not happen when importing a PQ!

Just to "update caches" > are you using the system mentioned by the balloni: cache detail > geocaching menu (usually top right corner) > update cache. This IS already natively implemented in the Locus Map and should work. G4L makes other "update" systems and I do not guarantee its functionality.

Since routing is being discussed...  I've got 4.22.2.  Yesterday while navigating a driving route, LoRouter repeatedly displayed on-screen a left turn, while speaking "Continue straight."  This happened roughly four times as the driver decided a better route was to continue straight.  (I had to explain, "This is weird, ignore the voice, turn left".)  It recalculated after missing the turn, next intersection, same thing: left turn shown on screen, spoken "Continue straight."

It occurred to me that maybe the router changed its mind, decided on a better route (as did the driver) which involved continuing straight, but the display was displaying an older route.  Seems unlikely.

I'm not sure how to debug this.  Please ignore if you think it'll just go away.

~~~

So updating a cache via tapping near the top, vs tapping a similar menu item at the bottom, go through different code paths?!?  I've always tapped at the bottom, and that stopped working.  (Just tried the tap-near-top path, yep, it works.)  I've solved the confusion for myself by uninstalling G4L, so long...

Hmm, the problem with incorrect navigation instructions won't go away without some work. Anyway, it is clear, that I really need to be able to simulate this issue  :-\

Geocaching troubles > I've tried to describe it together with images here (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/34422-cache-aktualisieren-funktioniert-nicht-mehr-locus-map-classic-3-70-7#comment-138722). Any yes, removing G4L seems to be the best solution now ...

Hello,
in the absence of network, the error message on the orange background is intrusive. To avoid seeing it I disabled the geocaching live map. Why not integrate these messages into locus notifications?
Version 4.23.1

Anybody tried to install an older gc4l version?
https://geocaching4locus.de.aptoide.com/app

Updating the caches works again thanks to the new version of G4L (3.0.12)

@Andrew Heard @ Viajero Perdido

QuoteI haven't invested time into why some are wrong but think it more likely when very short distances between some turns. I have a test route where I could note the details for objective testing.

I cannot confirm this. I hardly have anything like this before.
Show on map at what location you have this for. And above all, please share your design with the problem here as an attachment

I can no longer add a caption to a photo that I want to add to a LoPoint.
The text field is not editable.

Here's a recreation of the route with the conflicting instructions:  https://link.locusmap.app/t/n19n7n

We continued driving west on 16A, missing left turns.  The router kept recalculating to take the next left (as displayed) but kept saying "Continue straight".  It did not say, "Continue straight, then after 10 metres, turn left", though I have it configured to do so, and it does when applicable.  Cheers.

@balloni55
update of geocache > ah, I do not like these tasks as they are a little bit complicated. Please write me the code of the cache you were updating, so I can test it on an identical point. Thanks. I've just checked the code, just to be sure, and import over "search" and from "PQ" in the end use identical methods, so import also should be identical.

@Graf Geo
disabled text area > interesting. @Marek Scholtz will look at it, thanks

@Viajero Perdido
first missing navigation command after recalculation > good observation, thanks, got it!

@Viajero Perdido
I notice that Menion will offer you a solution.
Your trajectory is quite simple that will work.
Anyway I don't use Locus auto recalculation.

Quote from: Menion on April 18, 2024, 10:57:01@balloni55
update of geocache > ah, I do not like these tasks as they are a little bit complicated. Please write me the code of the cache you were updating, so I can test it on an identical point. Thanks. I've just checked the code, just to be sure, and import over "search" and from "PQ" in the end use identical methods, so import also should be identical.

e.g.
https://coord.info/GCAN28K
store coords like N 48°59.400  E 8°45.700
to final WP

the behavior has changed
"search for geocaches" > Mystery > overwrite is fine :)
"search by GC code" > + > overwrite, here the coordinates of the final WP are set to 0

V4.23.1.1
#16 no improvement :-[

Menion, on an existing track, after "Recalculate all", the Navigation icons are ahown on the map.

Track overview image, nice, maybe you can distinguish between planned (with no timestamps) and finished tracks. First one needs no avg. speed and track time is an estimation, can be indicated.

Higher res. would be nice.

Beta V4.23.1.1

Bug #29 (problem with caption to a photo added to a LoPoint): solved. :)

New track overview (first impression): I am not (yet) convinced. The text (headline) seems too big to me, the map is pale and the resolution is poor. It's nice that you can hide the diagram and the statistics. It would be even better if the font size and colour could be configured.

I like the old overview better. I would be happy to offer both variants permanently.

I like the old track overview better. In comparison to the new one, these are its advantages:

– More map details --> more information about the track. An improvement of the old diagram could be to increase the image resolution to get a better quality when printed out (what I sometimes do to produce a backup paper map for hiking)
– No grey overlay --> Map is better readable and looks better when printed out
– more statistical information about the track
– The ratio between the map information and the font size makes more sense. When reading the map, you usually zoom in, why are the fonts so huge?
– hight diagram is easier to read (see comparison). An improvement of the old diagram could be to show more than one hight indicating (horizontal) line.

The new overwiew looks more like a thumbnail, I don't exactly understand the use case. When I wanted so send a track overview to someone who doesn't have Locus App, I would use the one with the best image resolution and the most (relevant) information about the track, so that the receiver gets the best idea of it.

Sorry, I forgot to upload these images...

@balloni55
issue with update of the geocache and the UI glitch in the "log the cache" should be fixed now, thanks

Track Preview
thanks for the feedback. Purpose of this feature should be more as a small nice auto-generated preview for social media, not for print or deeper analysis.

I have a new Android 14 phone. I have 4.23.1 installed but seem to be having trouble installing the 4.23.1.1 beta. I have Developer options enabled, although now (FYI) for 14+ the setting for Install unknown apps has been moved to Settings > Security & privacy > More security settings, and is enabled on a per-app basis, in my case Solid Explorer. When I tap on the Install button there is a very quick "Staging" progress bar, then the dialog with Update button is displayed (see screen cap below). After tapping Update there is a quick return to the Solid Explorer App Viewer main screen whereas with older Android versions the "installing" screen stayed on for a few minutes. I'm assuming the 53.1MB package is not corrupt. Any suggestions please?
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4.23.1: Backup manager > Manual backup > all points & tracks: all OK except "zzccm, code: 10600":
20240423-125952-.jpg

@Andrew:
maybe try the package installer (if this is due to permissions) or redownload package?

Quote from: T-mo on April 23, 2024, 06:42:55maybe try the package installer (if this is due to permissions) or redownload package?

thanks T-mo. I should have mentioned I had used the package installer first. Sorry for any confusion. APK is 55,678,161 bytes. I downloaded another - same size. I can only assume some weird Samsung/ Android 14 security issue? I uninstalled LM4.23.1 then was able to install 4.23.1.1 ;-)

Broken OAM icons.

V4.23.1.2
#33 confirm solved, thanks

#16 the label add/take photo is furthermore hidden behind the keyboard and if i scroll up the window the label disapeares

open a geocache by link for import didn´t work
click link > locus open > GC tool window is visible for a short time > no listing window open :-\  only mapscreen
e.g.
http://coord.info/GCAPXJV

@balloni55
XCover 4 is from my point of view, the most problematic device I know for now, sorry  :). I may only suggest attaching photos before writing logs...

Opening a link > hope, you did not miss FTF because of this. Anyway, it works for me. Does it make a difference if Locus Map runs before you tap on this link?

Hello menion

QuoteXCover 4 is from my point of view, the most problematic device I know for now, sorry  :). I may only suggest attaching photos before writing logs...

that it still works well I will not buy a new one ;)

since I know the solution in this case I will do it this way, thanks for your effort

QuoteOpening a link > hope, you did not miss FTF because of this. Anyway, it works for me. Does it make a difference if Locus Map runs before you tap on this link?

no, don't worry, there is still the Livemap
It makes no difference whether locus is already running or has just been started via this link.

In the meantime I have noticed that the import with the "GC code" and the GCtools does not work either

New Beta version MapGooglePlay_4.23.1.3_1132_beta with a few very interesting additions

- fixed! an issue with the app stuck during navigation (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8181.0;topicseen) after recalculations
- finally working the outline color for tracks
- and more

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Btw in the previous Beta was also highly reduced battery consumption during track recording when the screen was on. On my device, during 3h simulated recording, it was reduced from 30% to 18% (only when the screen is on).

Hello menion
V 4.23.1.3
when gps is off and i start "guide to" a POI locus FC :-[

Beta V 4.23.1.3

Share track to Google Earth: Track with only outline colour (fully transparent base line) cannot be displayed in Google Earth.

Share Image & stats creates two graphics. The first with the map and the second with a background image (standard photo with boots). I can change the background image, e.g. a single-colour background. But only the second graphic can be shared. Not the first one with the map. There is no share icon. See screenshots.

With the last beta I had mentioned I had to uninstall 4.23.1 before I could install 4.23.1.1. With the latest beta there is no option to install/ upgrade at all, just "Launch" weird. Fortunately I can retain data/ turn off LM4 device admin/ uninstall/ install.
20240501-085931-.jpg

Quote from: Menion on April 30, 2024, 16:17:53in the previous Beta was also highly reduced battery consumption during track recording when the screen was on

@Menion - quite interesting - in my battery measurements (for your interest) I now record actual current (mA) using Tasker rather than just battery % (which was quite inaccurate if just a short period). In the following graph I generally find with all other processes killed (as much as possible) the standby current 5..10mA, and with LM4 track recording, screen off 45..60mA.
20240501-093758-_C__Users_ajh_Documents_2020s_2024_data_device%20batteries.ods — LibreOffice Cal.jpg

LM4 route planner - you can't drag down (collapse) the bottom panel of route planner before the 1st navigation point is created - see my taps - the panel pops back up - intended? I don't need to see "Select Start" & "Select Destination".

Quote from: Menion on April 30, 2024, 16:17:53– endlich funktionierte die Umrissfarbe für Tracks

That is very nice.
Then you could add an option to the navigation line so that the gradient is also displayed in the middle.
The pink on the left and right and the gradient in the middle.
It's very useful on the road. That way I can see how long the steep incline will last. Or I can see when a steep section is coming up.

or... slope could be the coloring for the route outline (along sides), with transparent middle so that style of road is still visible/ not obscured?

Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 02, 2024, 23:41:33or... slope could be the coloring for the route outline (along sides), with transparent middle so that style of road is still visible/ not obscured?

That is too far removed from the original. Would fit into the custom line. But it has a few disadvantages compared to the original.
Original in the middle the slope (as wide as the arrows). The area where it is already worn down could remain as it is.

I would also like to see the road condition on the map from time to time. But due to the many colors, the demarcation of the line to the map is missing.

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Hello,
after some of the recent updates, when I turn on the Locus GC "live" map, an orange window appears with the text and error codes Unfortunately, the live map does not work now. Reinstalling Locus didn't help.

Quote from: Pcmann on May 06, 2024, 13:49:44Hello,
after some of the recent updates, when I turn on the Locus GC "live" map, an orange window appears with the text and error codes Unfortunately, the live map does not work now. Reinstalling Locus didn't help.

same error ?
https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/34747-missing-authentication-credentials-zzasb-code401a-message-i-got-continuously-on-the-screen

As being an expert I am using expert settings, and here 'Fullscreen mode' in particular 8)
Once again Locus starts with an additional black bar at top, which goes away once screen enters a Fullscreen-dialog, i.e. settings, track edit, route planning, then Fullscreen is working perfectly fine.
Though mentioned and corrected several times, zillion sort of, it seems that the used code or mechanism seems not being robust enough, checking bar states, or does not survive releases.

Quote from: T-mo on May 07, 2024, 21:40:28Though mentioned and corrected several times, zillion sort of, it seems that the used code or mechanism seems not being robust enough, checking bar states, or does not survive releases.

Works for me, sort of... Don't complain. Your only option is to not use it. Menion removed and wanted to get rid of it and just because we asked, he moved it into the expert settings. He should probably only allow it via the config file.

Hi guys,
I've not read all posts precisely this time (will have to do at start of the next week). Anyway, some major crashes and minor tweaks were fixed in the new Beta version 4.23.1.4_1132. Have a nice weekend!

I get a message "app not installed" for latest.4 - working for everyone else?

Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 10, 2024, 18:41:51working for everyone else?

AFA.4 work for me

#50 confirm solved

Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 10, 2024, 18:41:51I get a message "app not installed" for latest.4 - working for everyone else?

👍

Updated all my UK OS map tiles this morning, cost a few pounds, and they all appear a bit softer on screen that the last set, just a touch less sharp, but noticeably so.

This is a consistent friend now.
Screenshot_20240511_105143.jpg

Quote from: Tapio on May 11, 2024, 10:52:28This is a consistent friend now.
Screenshot_20240511_105143.jpg

I've been having that since the new side bar was implemented (1yr ago? 1.5?)- then Menion said he couldn't reproduce and I kinda learned to ignore it as aesthetic error and disappears once I select another map. But would be nice if it was fixed finally.

@Will C
the last (or previous version) was generated from a CMYK raster and there is a step that converts CMYK to RGB. Do you know if you updated from some slightly older version? Is there any older map on your device, so we can compare them? Thanks, Petr