New Locus Map (4) version
Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-19-27-9-2023) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)
Versions
27. 9. 2023 - Locus 4.19.0
Hide track after track recording is what I always needed, but I think was hesitant to ask.
I auto record via intent and don't need to see such tracks on map.
Many thx
EDIT: IT IS BROKEN. The setting applies to all existing recording profiles, not individually.
I think that with a new feature to hide the route after storage, there would be a better name in Czech: "Save and Hide". It is now called: "Save and View". This is confusing because the route is already displayed before saving. Or at least edit the name to: "Save and View Details"
Is the "reversed mileage marks" related to my suggestion https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/30858-display-distance-markers-in-reverse?
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Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 29, 2023, 00:06:58Is the "reversed mileage marks" related to my suggestion https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/30858-display-distance-markers-in-reverse?
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Oh, seems so, nice feature! IMO the implementation is perfect. Just reverse, no additional option.
inside settings of geotagged photos there are some predefined ??? folders, but no option to add "+button" and "3dot button" to remove folders
@Tapio omg, also "Auto save" was applied to all profiles, damn. Thanks a lot!!
@Žajdlík Josef I wanted to make this setting "positive". So it is enabled by default and makes the track visible after saving. Anyway, I'll discuss with
@Michal the update in the label.
@balloni55 Missing options in geotagged photos are correct. The app is no longer able to read photos from user-defined locations on the Android 11+. As I see in the code, with the AFA version, this should still be available. Testing .. confirmed.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on September 29, 2023, 00:06:58Is the "reversed mileage marks" related to my suggestion
unfortunately not related to my suggestion though, although I accept the reason.
QuoteAs I see in the code, with the AFA version, this should still be available.
exactly in the V 3.70.1 it is available
I had 3 crashes on vacation with the new version. But have no crash report.
It always during navigation. The first time the screen was off. Since no turn-by-turn directions came I turned the screen on to look. The screen wr like frozen and then Locus restarted. Then I noticed at the recording so that it has already stopped recording 10 min. before. So it froze in the background (screen off).
I have the feeling that the map construction has become slower. Especially when moving. Maybe it's related to the new option.
add: (expert) option to make map movement smoother, topic
Which item is it in the expert settings. Haven't found anything in a hurry ?
Quote from: freischneider on October 03, 2023, 13:09:30I had 3 crashes on vacation with the new version. But have no crash report.
It always during navigation. The first time the screen was off. Since no turn-by-turn directions came I turned the screen on to look. The screen wr like frozen and then Locus restarted. Then I noticed at the recording so that it has already stopped recording 10 min. before. So it froze in the background (screen off).
I had the same problem yesterday ... during recording and navigating.
No more move was possible ... and system asks to stop or wait for a non reacting process.
Quote from: freischneider on October 03, 2023, 13:15:58Which item is it in the expert settings. Haven't found anything in a hurry ?
"Fluent movement" in the english translation.
"Smooth movement" maybe a better zerm - native speakers, pls. advise :_)
fluent ok
smooth better
Is there, or can there be an option to turn on/off railroad crossing icons, when planning a track? It shows on saved track as well.
(https://i.ibb.co/cy4RqMN/Screenshot-20231005-174754-Locus-Map.png)
Here is longer track showing various icons. Sometimes I welcome this feature, sometimes it is just visual clutter which cannot be removed from the screen.
(https://i.ibb.co/KrcySwZ/Screenshot-20231006-174145-Locus-Map.png)
I would also appreciate the possibility to toggle the warning icons on/off. They are a great feature 👍 :) , but there are also many use cases in which their information is not relevant and a clear uncluttered view is more important.
4.19.0 route planner bug, walking profile (if relevant) - if I tap on an intermediate POI & tap plus (+) to add to the route, and IF this POI is closer than other shaping points in the route, THEN the whole route is recalculated. I've never seen this weird behaviour before. I'm touring at present so difficult to record a video, although that would better explain I'm sure. If I tap the road instead of POI then routing is ok. 100% reproducible but difficult to explain sorry. Will investigate YouTube.
After the update, exporting the saved route to RunKeeper stopped working.
The message appears:
"Error: Ups!
getCallingPid"
I checked the application can connect to the RunKeeper website.
In the news (https://www.locusmap.app/new-locus-map-4-19-heading-for-even-better-route-planning/) it says:
"more accurate contour lines – in the new LoMaps we generate more detailed drawn contour lines from 1" height data, while maintaining the volume of map files. We have completed Europe so far, but the machines are running at full speed, so you can look forward to further additions soon."
Does this work for existing (already downloaded) HGT files or do they need to be downloaded again? If so, does Locus do that automatically? Or is it a map feature independent of teh HGT files?
The contour lines mentioned in the news are embedded into the .map files. And display (or not) is controlled by the theme.
The hgt files are optional and allow the dynamic elevation Feature.
There's an update 4.19.0.2 on Gdrive, 17th Oct.
Quote from: michaelbechtold on October 15, 2023, 09:23:17The contour lines mentioned in the news are embedded into the .map files. And display (or not) is controlled by the theme.
The hgt files are optional and allow the dynamic elevation Feature.
Thanks for the reply, but I think that a bit of confusion arises if the map shows more detail than what is calculated for the altimetry. They should always be aligned, whereas now there is a possibility that this will not happen without the user being aware of it. Now for example I had the maps with less visible detail but Sonny's hgts at 1', but I was aware of it.Obviously it's just my opinion as long as I understand the new implementation correctly
V4.19.0.2
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Hi guys,
sorry, it took me a while till I responded here. We were a little stuck on the offline solution for custom routing and warnings. All hopefully solved now.
@MartyMcFly89
option to hige warnings will be added in the next app version, check this (https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/33116-turning-off-new-route-warning-icons) topic.
@Andrew Heard
hmm trying to simulate the issue in the planner ... but it will really need a video, thanks!
@WujTom
Hmm, I've not used this for years ... login was problematic, but the Facebook login finally worked. And export ... no problem, interesting. May you try to re-login?
@balloni55
I do not know why it does not work, anyway let's do a quick check.
To the next Beta version, I've added two extra info parameters to the "Device info" screen (available under long-click on the main menu > Helpdesk / About app button. There will be an item "Storage manager" with two values, so please check what is wrote there. Thanks.
My brain cannot process this. What's the difference? OK, the first is a time span, the second is a specific point in time. But it's about the same thing?
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I know
@Tapio , sorry for this. It is my unfinished work ...
"Auto-pause" ... new more robust system based on the "Google Activity recognition" system. It detects if the device is moving or not based on the accelerometer and some other sensors, but not the GPS!! Thanks to this, app may really pause-unpause track recording. This allows app to for example pause recording when you are having a break and this pause GPS as well!
"Record only when moving" ... GPS is running all the time and the app only checks if the current speed is above 0.25m/s. If not, the location is simply discreet. So this may reduce some unwanted "locations", but does not save energy etc.
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Unfortunately, I'm still not satisfied with "Auto-pause" reliability so it ended in this weird state ...
Quote from: Menion on October 30, 2023, 09:43:23I know @Tapio , sorry for this. It is my unfinished work ...
"Auto-pause" ... new more robust system based on the "Google Activity recognition" system. It detects if the device is moving or not based on the accelerometer and some other sensors, but not the GPS!! Thanks to this, app may really pause-unpause track recording. This allows app to for example pause recording when you are having a break and this pause GPS as well!
"Record only when moving" ... GPS is running all the time and the app only checks if the current speed is above 0.25m/s. If not, the location is simply discreet. So this may reduce some unwanted "locations", but does not save energy etc.
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Unfortunately, I'm still not satisfied with "Auto-pause" reliability so it ended in this weird state ...
Perhaps a combination of sensor and GPS. As far as I can remember the reactivation was the problem. If the sensor registers something is additionally checked again with the GPS. Maybe also every 30s a check with the GPS while pausing. Is better from the ACCU better than constantly GPS.
Quote from: Menion on October 30, 2023, 09:43:23Unfortunately, I'm still not satisfied with "Auto-pause" reliability so it ended in this weird state ...
I've set both options to on, record every home absence every day... and have never seen recording in a paused state. RN I am in a building, having a break since 30m, stationary... but the rec button is red, not paused.
Quote from: Menion on October 30, 2023, 09:43:23I know @Tapio , sorry for this. It is my unfinished work ...
"Auto-pause" ... new more robust system based on the "Google Activity recognition" system
@menion - is this new functionality? we were discussing similar in this forum months ago. at the time I didn't find it was reliable
has anyone noticed with Cloud Sync that sometimes random existing points are made visible that haven't been modified for days/weeks? it's impossible to reproduce of course but happens to me every few syncs there will be a few unnecessary visible points
Hello,
I added the external profile "River" from Brouter Offline and see it in the LoRouter Offline settings.
But unfortunately, in "active profiles" you cannot add your own profile, for example with a "boat" icon or something like that. Therefore, we had to take a "motorcycle" and give it a "river" profile.
Maybe there is a way to set the correct icon for your external navigator profile?
Screenshot_20231103-135452_Locus Map.png
Quote from: settler on November 03, 2023, 11:53:55Hello,
I added the external profile "River" from Brouter Offline and see it in the LoRouter Offline settings.
But unfortunately, in "active profiles" you cannot add your own profile, for example with a "boat" icon or something like that. Therefore, we had to take a "motorcycle" and give it a "river" profile.
Maybe there is a way to set the correct icon for your external navigator profile?
Screenshot_20231103-135452_Locus Map.png
Unfortunately, this is not yet possible. But there is already a proposal and you can vote for it.
https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/editable-names-of-routing-profiles
Little weird observation in my recent holidays:
I split a track A into A1 and A2. Then both tracks had the same creation date/time (I think we discussed this a while ago, before that both parts got the current DT as new creation dates). Now when I sort the folder by "Created", it shows
- correct!
But when I reverse sorting, it still shows
- not really correct, as the second part of the original track is surely
after the first part and thus should be shown
before in the reversed list.
I assume, as both tracks have exactly the same created date/time, Locus then reverts to alphabetic sorting as "tie-breaker", which keeps A1 before A2.
Proposal:As we agree that it's not helpful to set the Created DT of split tracks to the current DT, why not set the DT of the second part to its first trackpoint?
Quote from: slarti76 on November 06, 2023, 11:07:12I think we discussed this a while ago
Yes (search for "split"), we did, you did, I thought it's all sorted 😁.
Quote from: Tapio on November 07, 2023, 08:18:37Quote from: slarti76 on November 06, 2023, 11:07:12I think we discussed this a while ago
Yes (search for "split"), we did, you did, I thought it's all sorted 😁.
Yeah, there's always a special case to be overlooked 8)
Hi guys,
I have a feeling, that I do not spend enough time here on the forum. Sorry if you feel the same. The tasks I did last weeks took too much time to me and colleagues :-X
Anyway, here we go!
It is partially funny, that the last posts are focused on the customization of profiles. Well ...
New Beta version 4.19.0.7
Major changes
- internal offline LoRouter and online LoRouter are fully united. So they use the identical system. All customizations, systems for warnings, profiles, etc., all are identical!
- with this, I've made completely!! new system of how routing profiles are selected and also customized. Because the old system was a little "hacky", the new was rebuilt from scratch. This also means (and I've tried to keep old data), that you will have to setup custom profiles again, sorry.
- The second major (mainly on the background) change, a few weeks of work and testing, is a united and simplified system of how the app starts and destroys. Together with it, we have recreated the start screen and made it a little "nicer". The main reason was that it was quite a mess inside of the app over all these years and I had to have a single place of truth where all happens.
Both main changes are very complex and I also expect that some problems may arise. That's why I kept old Beta version on the Google Drive, so it may be easy to revert to the older version in case of serious problems.
So shortly: kudos to the brave and test at your own risk ;)!
I will test something over the next few days.
Thank you
Working on the app is more important than being here in the forum all the time. There are enough people who can help. And if there is an urgent problem, there is always the helpdesk. They have a direct line to you.
With my old Samsung S8 Android 9:
Map Content Panel cannot be opened. It works with the previous version.
Quote from: Menion on October 23, 2023, 19:53:27@balloni55
I do not know why it does not work, anyway let's do a quick check.
To the next Beta version, I've added two extra info parameters to the "Device info" screen (available under long-click on the main menu > Helpdesk / About app button. There will be an item "Storage manager" with two values, so please check what is wrote there. Thanks.
Storage manager:
in manifest:true
enabeled: false
Really like the new routing-profiles dialog.
I choosed the route planner to basically get to the selection and customisation dialog, it doesn't seem to be reachable via settings AFAICS.
- cycle touring profile: I suggest to add a 'prefer cycle routes' option (parameters). I love using existing routes.
- I created a profile. Its icon doesn't get used as segment-icon, instead it's empty
- I wanted to change the profile-icon. The icon-selection-dialog starts in recently used, which is currently very short of course. 'Default (tracks)' shows all, which is better IMHO. Btw Is the naming intended or by mistake?
issues with 4.19.0.7
Quote from: T-mo on November 09, 2023, 23:30:42I choosed the route planner to basically get to the selection and customisation dialog, it doesn't seem to be reachable via settings AFAICS.
same for me- When I tap the Map content button I get the error message "App is not yet fully initialized", and the Map content panel is not displayed ;-(20231110-095732-.jpg
- Track recording profile > Save & display: now appears to be ignored (previously setting for each profile linked together). For example Save & display = on, but when the track is saved, it is no longer visible on the map.
@freischneider Map content panel > it is probably the same issue as reported by Andrew here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=73664) right?
May someone of you, enable (long-click on the main menu) logging to the file + "Initialize" logs, close the app, re-start and open the side panel again? In the log (placed in the app "logs" dir) should be useful info, I hope. EDIT: I was able to simulate it on older SGS2. Big-fix will be today, thanks.
@balloni55 "enabled: false" is the problem. You have to enable it so Locus Map has full filesystem access. One option is to open the menu > Settings > Backup & Filesystem > File system manager > and here should be a blue box at the top with the "Grant permission" button.
@T-mo - access to routing settings > and is it useful at all? I expect, that you want to modify profiles mainly in the route planner. There is no big reason to do this outside of this screen.
- extra parameters for router customization: here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8604.0) is a topic, where
@Radim V will gladly discuss anything ;)
- missing icon: thanks. Partially fixed, anyway solution is not ideal now. If you change a router, the custom icon will be lost. Will have to improve it later.
- recently used: I've improved default selection a little, thanks
@Andrew Heard 1. + 2. above
3. hmm this is connected to "App is not yet fully initialized" error. We have to solve this and ... :)
Quote@balloni55
"enabled: false" is the problem. You have to enable it so Locus Map has full filesystem access. One option is to open the menu > Settings > Backup & Filesystem > File system manager > and here should be a blue box at the top with the "Grant permission" button.
thank you, that was the cause :D
now I can add folders again 8)
Hi Menion.
In beta 4.19.0.8 the online address and location search does not work on my device.
Quote from: Menion on November 10, 2023, 09:58:55EDIT : Ich konnte es auf einem älteren SGS2 simulieren. Big-Fix kommt heute, danke.
It now works with the S8. Tomorrow I'll test Xiaomi Antroid 13
Quote from: AgusOrux on November 10, 2023, 16:52:56Hi Menion.
In beta 4.19.0.8 the online address and location search does not work on my device.
Same here. Quite annoying to be honest.
Quote from: Menion on November 10, 2023, 09:58:55@T-mo
- access to routing settings > and is it useful at all? I expect, that you want to modify profiles mainly in the route planner. There is no big reason to do this outside of this screen.
Sure, to me it's okay. Maybe some novices might search for it, dunno.
4.19.0.9
- tested a bit, edit, changing the icon, set: not re-selecting the profile, instead hitting back (sure, nasty move) does not update the big profile-icon. Also the blue icon only gets updated if you switch between profiles.
4.19.0.9: it doesn't appear possible to delete/ edit the LoRouter Offline profiles? It was possible in previous versions. For example I don't need Skiing or Car profiles. Other fixes from 0.8 confirmed.
When I exit the Route Planner by tapping the Back button, the planned route is still displayed for a few seconds then disappears! see video
Now we have this new expanded Route Planner profile selection system, why are there only these 4 categories?20231111-110930-.jpg
I've noticed on a few screens the left margin is truncated, for example:
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I find the categories practical. I have 2 main activities. Cycling and hiking. So I can have different cycling profiles and they are all in one category.
But I don't need the other categories. Maybe it makes sense to delete or add some?
Also deleting unneeded profiles would be helpful. There are people who have their own profiles and lose clarity because the LoProfiles are also displayed, but they don't need them. I use the LoProfiles myself.
Edit: Something else I noticed. The category "Other" does not appear at all when creating a new one.
Quote from: TrulloF on November 10, 2023, 18:28:09Quote from: AgusOrux on November 10, 2023, 16:52:56Hi Menion.
In beta 4.19.0.8 the online address and location search does not work on my device.
Same here. Quite annoying to be honest.
Fixed with latest beta. Thanks.
I was outside, recording has been started via an intent. Wanted to look on the map, but it didn't go past the startup screen:
https://youtu.be/WazB5rpRAko?si=HzAlDe4ca6cUJmwl
Quote from: freischneider on November 11, 2023, 09:05:30Also deleting unneeded profiles would be helpful.
Perhaps deleting LoProfiles is a problem, as otherwise they can no longer be restored? Then another option would be to hide the profiles.
However, it would be possible to restore them if LoProfiles and own profiles are offered when selecting the profiles. At the moment only own profiles are offered there.
Quote from: freischneider on November 11, 2023, 09:05:30But I don't need the other categories. Maybe it makes sense to delete or add some?
Also deleting unneeded profiles would be helpful.
that used to be possible
Quote from: slarti76 on November 06, 2023, 11:07:12Little weird observation in my recent holidays:
I split a track A into A1 and A2. Then both tracks had the same creation date/time (I think we discussed this a while ago, before that both parts got the current DT as new creation dates). Now when I sort the folder by "Created", it shows
- correct!
But when I reverse sorting, it still shows
- not really correct, as the second part of the original track is surely after the first part and thus should be shown before in the reversed list.
I assume, as both tracks have exactly the same created date/time, Locus then reverts to alphabetic sorting as "tie-breaker", which keeps A1 before A2.
Proposal:
As we agree that it's not helpful to set the Created DT of split tracks to the current DT, why not set the DT of the second part to its first trackpoint?
Hi Menion
Don't wanna be annoying, but you answered a lot of posts, but no reaction to this - overlooked, perhaps? Thx!
@T-mo
update of profile icon > thanks, got it
@Andrew Heard
deletion of internal profiles is indeed not possible and won't be in the future. I need to keep base profiles available because they serve as a fallback (based on categories) in case of any problem with custom profiles.
What is anyway doable and what I've expected you (all here) will want, is an option to hide them from the selection. I'll look at it ...
Categories ... this is used not just as visual separation of profiles, but also internally to know, which profiles are "similar" and may be selected in case, any custom profile has a problem. What category are you missing?
UI problem on screens ... hmm, will check it, thanks.
@freischneider
"Other" category ... right, it is visible currently only for manual drawing, because this does not belong to any other category. Making it as selectable option should help right? Hmm ...
@Tapio
the stuck on the loading screen was with the latest X.10 version? Hope not :-X
@slarti76
not exactly overlooked. I wanted to answer later and forget. Thanks for the reminder!
As I see in the code, this was modified at 31. 10. 2022 and it works as it should: the second part of the route should have time of this first trackpoint. Anyway, there is the condition when this is applied: "Created time" of the original route is identical to the first trackpoint. Is this your case? Otherwise app considers the original route time more important than trackpoint times and preserves it.
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2023, 13:05:27@freischneider
Kategorie ,,Andere" ... richtig, sie ist derzeit nur für manuelles Zeichnen sichtbar, da sie zu keiner anderen Kategorie gehört. Es als auswählbare Option zu machen sollte helfen, oder? Hmm ...
Just an observation and information. I don't need it at the moment. But maybe it is practical if someone creates their own. E.g. boating, or flying
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2023, 13:05:27@slarti76
not exactly overlooked. I wanted to answer later and forget. Thanks for the reminder!
As I see in the code, this was modified at 31. 10. 2022 and it works as it should: the second part of the route should have time of this first trackpoint. Anyway, there is the condition when this is applied: "Created time" of the original route is identical to the first trackpoint. Is this your case? Otherwise app considers the original route time more important than trackpoint times and preserves it.
Thx for the answer, that condition actually makes a lot of sense. And it explains it: I did delete points at the beginning of the track before doing the split - then the condition was not met anymore.
Thinking about it, probably the best solution would be the additional option to sort by "track start date/time". I would even say that in 99% of the cases that's what the user actually wants when selecting "created by". Why would you sort a self-recorded track and an imported track differently, just because the imported track has a later creation date, even if it's chronologically ealier?
Is adding that sort criteria feasible?
Of course, the workaround is to always *first* split a track before doing any other editing - but obviously I hope you agree with me that "Track start time" is a good thing to add :)
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2023, 13:05:27@Tapio
the stuck on the loading screen was with the latest X.10 version? Hope not :-X
Oh, didn't notice there were updates. It was on 4.19.07
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2023, 13:05:27an option to hide them from the selection. I'll look at it ...
+1
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2023, 13:05:27Categories ... What category are you missing?
@menion - is this inconsistent with activity categories from track activities? the categories there are: land activities, winter activities, water activities, other activities, transportation, various.
@menion - I think there is some timing glitch with the track recording > profile > Save & display = off: mostly when I stop recording & save the track I can then manually export the track from the bottom menu, but sometimes the dialog is not displayed, and the map is displayed immediately (with track correctly hidden). One or the other behavior is wrong.
@slarti76
agree, it may be useful. Unfortunately, I do not have "first trackpoint time" easily available for sorting in the database. There will be a major database update during next year, so I'll try to keep this in my mind ::)
@Andrew Heard
inconsistency with categories is only partial. For me is more important consistency with the "Link with presets" system + as I mentioned before > the possibility of having a working fallback to the working internal profile in case, the external profile does not work.
Track recording problem > Unfortunately this does not happened to me yet. Anyway, I will try to add a small delay till the final screen is visible, if it helps.
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2023, 13:05:27@Tapio
the stuck on the loading screen was with the latest X.10 version? Hope not :-X
I have seen it today in 4.19.11
- Recording has been started via intent
- While on tour, I tapped app icon and it stayed in the starting screen. As in my above posted video.
There is no way I can check the map. Because of the active recording, obviously I don't want to stop/restart LM completely.
It could be related to auto pause. when it showed the behaviour, the orange "Paused" message appeared.
It regularly started at a later point. IDK why later. Maybe it is because it was not auto paused then.
It maybe not directly related to LM, but does anyone know why (only lately) there is sometimes no option to download the APK file from https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/...?
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@Tapio
thanks, I've made some improvements to make it more robust, so next version.
@Andrew Heard
Hmm interesting ... I have identical problem in Vivaldi :-\
The Download item in the context menu is there today. Weird. It's only become an issue in last few weeks. Another Vivaldi user - bravo ;-)
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Quote from: Andrew Heard on October 11, 2023, 08:00:354.19.0 route planner bug, walking profile (if relevant) - if I tap on an intermediate POI & tap plus (+) to add to the route, and IF this POI is closer than other shaping points in the route, THEN the whole route is recalculated. I've never seen this weird behaviour before. I'm touring at present so difficult to record a video, although that would better explain I'm sure. If I tap the road instead of POI then routing is ok. 100% reproducible but difficult to explain sorry. Will investigate YouTube.
@menion - solved - my misunderstanding of the 3 Route Planner buttons +- -+- -+. I was tapping the middle -+- button but incorrectly expecting the point to be appended rather than inserted into the route. Live & learn.
4.19.0.11: the improvements to the Route Planner look good to me. There is one profile I have "shortest" which is often very useful. I wonder whether this could be an option, initially hidden, saved in Other category?
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Beta 4.19.0.12With two new features :)
And many fixes regards routing profiles and app start.
@Andrew Heard Anything related to "How the app computes routes - routing profiles", to
@Radim V here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8604.0;topicseen).
Quote from: Menion on November 16, 2023, 13:37:15Beta 4.19.0.12
With two new features :)
Hello menion
"search for a single cache based on it´s cache code"
is it possible to display the cache type of the cache after the search so that you know under which category it is to be saved?
@Menion: something in the overlay mechanics seems to have changed.
Before (correctly), ZL 1-11 were by World map, overlay covered ZL 12 and 13.
Now the behaviour is weird:
- going up the zoom levels, ZL 12 shows a 50% view of ZL 13 content, ZL 13 is OK, ZL 14 is a useful and meangingful vector map
- going down to 13 is OK, going to ZL 12 from there shows ZL 12 the slow vector map view, ZL 11 is OK again.
TXs and cheers
Michael
"Aspect based slope shading"
a) Are we talking about <screenshot>
b) What has changed?
IMO the routing profiles screens are big space wasters. Not elegant. Eg, the biiig "Navigation command" warning. Maybe only show once? Or much smaller? You could offer multiple routing profiles already on the first page, for direct selection.
Quote from: Tapio on November 16, 2023, 19:04:16"Aspect based slope shading"
a) Are we talking about <screenshot>
b) What has changed?
IMO the routing profiles screens are big space wasters. Not elegant. Eg, the biiig "Navigation command" warning. Maybe only show once? Or much smaller? You could offer multiple routing profiles already on the first page, for direct selection.
No, the one in your picture should be the bottom one.
Quote from: freischneider on November 16, 2023, 21:06:51No, the one in your picture should be the bottom one.
ohh... overlooked it.
Andy Warhol slope mode?
@Menion, can you explain a bit? So it shows slope colors depending from... current gps position? Map center? I have not yet seen it changing the colors, eg tried indoor gps simulation (red icon).
- I have again seen the issue with the intro screen not disappearing, exactly as in YT video above
- I created a track with route planner, then went out of it without saving... The temporary track, with all its shaping points was still visible in LMs main map view, for ~5 seconds
Like Tapio I had a loss of ongoing work with the route planner.
The routing was purely manual. And with each point added the response got slower and slower.
Until crash, without recovery of the track I was building.
Memory issue?
Maybe plus non-linear algorithms?
No loss, I went out of route planner intentionally. But the route leaked into the main screen. It's reproducible here. See:
Quote from: Tapio on November 16, 2023, 19:04:16IMO the routing profiles screens are big space wasters. Not elegant. Eg, the biiig "Navigation command" warning. Maybe only show once? Or much smaller?
@tapio - ha ha - totally agree but wasn't going to mention it ;-)
Quote from: Tapio on November 17, 2023, 22:24:00No loss, I went out of route planner intentionally. But the route leaked into the main screen. It's reproducible here. See:
@tapio - that's very similar to what I reported
Quote from: Menion on November 14, 2023, 12:14:34Track recording problem > Unfortunately this does not happened to me yet. Anyway, I will try to add a small delay till the final screen is visible, if it helps.
@menion - is still happening 25% of saving with .11. I haven't tested .12 yet.
Quote from: Tapio on November 16, 2023, 19:04:16Meiner Meinung nach sind die Routing-Profilbildschirme große Platzverschwender. Nicht elegant. ZB die große Warnung ,,Navigationsbefehl". Vielleicht nur einmal zeigen? Oder viel kleiner? Sie können bereits auf der ersten Seite mehrere Routingprofile zur direkten Auswahl anbieten.
Im not quite sure what you mean exactly. Can you post a picture?
Quote from: Tapio on November 18, 2023, 14:03:52Quote from: luce on November 18, 2023, 11:54:42I think this is what he means.
Yup
I think as being a selection-dialog a vertical smaller window does not make sense, there might be profiles with a lot of parameters, and a changing dialog-size is of no real help (uncovered map is of no real value), same with another overlay which might be irritating.
As we can see by Luces screenshots the horizontal space might get slightly optimised, sticking to 3 (current state, some space leftover) or 4 icons with text. 5 is quite compact and might not help with thin gloves on or while being in motion (reduced precision) on bike.
Just some thoughts though reg. this.
I see it the same way as @T-mo
In the current view, we have a much better overview than before. Finding and selecting the right profile is much easier.
We have enough space now, why not use it.
The only disadvantage is that we need one more click to switch. But we don't switch that often. And if we do, I also have an idea. More on that in a moment.
To make changing the profile faster, I have the following idea.
Make the current profile about 20% smaller and move it down a little.
Arrange the 3 or 4 most frequently used profiles above it. And the arrow for all profiles to the right of it.
Alternatively, you could not use the most frequently used ones. Instead, select these actively. A short click on the profile selects it. Long click on the profile to select a new one for this position.
Personally, I like the active selection better as the most frequently used.
@balloni55
I have two options here.
- a current solution where the cache is sent to the "Import" system
- or the app may display the cache as a temporary point on the map where this first bottom button will be "+" > so add to own library. Maybe this second is better, right?
@Michael Bechtold
I was not touching the map core at all, so there has to be another change. You are talking about Maps > Advanced features > Pre-load global map, right?
Slowdown with a longer plan > ah, thanks for this. Another serious issue, will look at it.
@Tapio
Aspect coloring > I'll insert a legend into the app later. For now, this picture should help. Aspect coloring colorizes hills based on it's orientation.
legend_aspect.jpg
Stuck at the start > it happened to me twice too. Hmm ... another try in the next version.
Delay in removing the content of planner > I've noticed it as well, hopefully improved now.
@Andrew Heard
problem with saving of track > hmm, will have to test it a little more...
@freischneider & others
Usage of the space in the route selection dialog > what you see is the result of quite long testing and I'm quite happy with it to be true. As mentioned - there is enough space, so the app uses it to make it easier to work with the whole screen. Some options for quick selection of last used profiles? I was already thinking about it, but was not sure how to do it. So maybe later.
@Menion: global map works like a charm (I use one for ZL 1 to 11). What used to work is the overlay: 100% viasibilty for .sqlitedb/.mbtiles for ZL 12 and 13. ZL shows the correct content, ZL 12 uses vector map content, zero from the overlay map.
Cheers
Michael
Quote from: Andrew Heard on November 18, 2023, 00:28:25Quote from: Menion on November 14, 2023, 12:14:34Track recording problem > Unfortunately this does not happened to me yet. Anyway, I will try to add a small delay till the final screen is visible, if it helps.
@menion - is still happening 25% of saving with .11. I haven't tested .12 yet.
@menion - more like 50% now that I'm taken more notice of the behavior - when it fails i.e. panel is hidden, the bottom track details panel starts to appear (slide up) from the bottom for a split second, then disappears again.
@Menion, tonights update: Planned route still leaks into main view, 6 seconds
Quote- or the app may display the cache as a temporary point on the map where this first bottom button will be "+" > so add to own library. Maybe this second is better, right?
Hello menion
this will be a good solution :)
Thanks
@michaelbechtold
Can't simulate any problem with overlay. What map should I use for testing, is there anywhere available for download?
@Andrew Heard
display of the bottom track panel after recording > I still don't understand, why this does not happen to me. Anyway another iteration in the next Beta, thanks!
@Tapio
6 seconds?? Damn. ::) ... also next attempt in the next app version.
Quote from: Menion on November 21, 2023, 10:59:14display of the bottom track panel after recording > I still don't understand, why this does not happen to me.
I can record the screen if you like, but I think you understand? But no one else has mentioned they experience this??
Quote from: Menion on November 21, 2023, 10:59:146 seconds?? Damn. ::) ... also next attempt in the next app version.
confirmed 6s! - The delay got even longer going from .11 to .12 and has remained the same delay in latest beta .13. PS. Google Drive Download button is often hidden with Vivaldi web browser but OK with Chrome, so I'll use the latter from now on.
Quote from: Menion on November 20, 2023, 22:16:34@freischneider & others
Usage of the space in the route selection dialog
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Some options for quick selection of last used profiles? I was already thinking about it, but was not sure how to do it. So maybe later.
Maybe sorting based on usage within each category is enough, so the most often used profile is always most left.
Additionally at top the 3..4 last used profiles can be placed, followed by a divider, then the categories like now.
Just as idea.
With some clever options for sorting and filtering you can nearly meet most todays needs, a lot of modern apps and services fail at this simple fact.
4.19.0.13 release notes says fixed: "stuck @ start during init" - I don't know whether related but twice when I have task swapped - bring another app to foreground then attempt to bring Locus back to foreground, I get the starting screen below. It never progressed. I had tapped on the LM4 app shortcut on the phone home screen. That suggests to me LM has not properly detected it is already running, and switched to that instance. It used to be an issue for Windows apps (as a programmer). Today I was not even able to kill LM with KillApps Pro or from the task list which is a serious lockup! I had to restart the phone in order to recover operation! It must be related to 4.19.0.7 "completely new app start".
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@Menion: re. "@michaelbechtold Can't simulate any problem with overlay. What map should I use for testing, is there anywhere available for download?"
My bad - apologies! When trying to find the smallest possible map combination (world plus overlay) for your reproduction, I immediatley came across an overlay that worked perfectly fine on my device. Next step was to check the Europe overlay (highest resolution (png) private version) - which was missing ZL 12 entirely :-((
Hence Locus did fill in the vector base map - as expected.
Filling ZL 12 now into that special map :-)
Cheers
Michael
Quote from: Andrew Heard on November 21, 2023, 21:34:41Quote from: Menion on November 21, 2023, 10:59:14display of the bottom track panel after recording > I still don't understand, why this does not happen to me.
I can record the screen if you like, but I think you understand? But no one else has mentioned they experience this??
@menion - I've been recording the screen each time while saving a track - never has the bug appeared - this suggests to me the extra CPU load of the screen recording app is slowing down LM and preventing the bug.
New version, (partially) out: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8684.msg73797#msg73797 !