New Locus Map (4) version
Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-17-16-5-2023) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)
Versions
16. 5. 2023 - Locus 4.17.0
24. 5. 2023 - Locus 4.17.1
15. 6. 2023 - Locus 4.17.2
Geocaching icon?
Locus Map icon? :)
Hello,
> chg: redesign of primary and secondary colors across the whole app - blue is good!
Is it possible to make this color set in the settings? The old dark blue was more comfortable.
@settler nope, sorry.
This one should be less disturbing and helps to distinguish really active content on the screen (buttons) from the simple toolbar.
Hi Menione, the new search is great. Very good work. This is the best change in the last year. Personally, I would add the option to view the search directly on the map, but it's not that important. Thanks.
@Žajdlík Josef Hi, you mean search input always floating on top of the map or something different? Thank you for your kind words!
no offence, tastes are different. Babyblue always makes me tired. Sometimes small differences in shades give a totally different impression. I'll try my best, promise!
Quote from: T-mo on May 17, 2023, 22:51:39no offence, tastes are different. Babyblue always makes me tired. Sometimes small differences in shades give a totally different impression. I'll try my best, promise!
The main thing is that the function is good. The contrast to black characters is better with light blue than with dark blue.
And if you get tired, you have to drink one more coffee. :-)
Quote from: T-mo on May 17, 2023, 22:51:39Babyblue always makes me tired.
Mother Menions lullaby for you
Quote from: Jan Čapek on May 17, 2023, 16:32:59@Žajdlík Josef Hi, you mean search input always floating on top of the map or something different? Thank you for your kind words!
It often happens that I need to find more things and repeat the search. I design the option in the search panel option: "View temporary search panel". The screen would add a floating panel for searching and an icon to hide the panel. See pictures.
CZ: Často se stává, že potřebuji najít více věcí a hledání opakovat. Navrhuji v panelu pro vyhledávání přidat možnost: "Zobrazit dočasný vyhledávací panel". Na obrazovku by se přidal plovoucí panel pro vyhledávání a ikona pro skrytí panelu. Viz obrázky.
search.jpg
the distance number of the distance marker isn't displayed under the magnifying glass. In my screen capture the 48 is missing.
Screenshot_2023-05-18-14-19-03.jpeg
a option could be when hovering over the distance marker to display a popup with a larger (more readable) distance
Babyblue :D , I like blue since begin, sorry
@T-mo 8)
@Andrew Heard hmm, when I enable highlight by cursor or tap, they'll also start to be selectable and this complicates life a lot.
Anyway, these texts are influenced by Settings > Maps > Auxiliary graphics > text size.
Quote from: Menion on May 18, 2023, 15:49:56Settings > Maps > Auxiliary graphics > text size.
nice, thanks, I've changed from 100 to 140%
missing # on magnifier must be a bug? but text size is a nice workaround
Quote from: Menion on May 17, 2023, 07:27:33@settler
nope, sorry.
This one should be less disturbing and helps to distinguish really active content on the screen (buttons) from the simple toolbar.
Please consider reverting the menu colors to their previous state. The new (bright light blue) colors are very annoying. The old shade was optimal.
I think the best option is to make it configurable from the "expert menu". Or just put it back the way it was.
Thank you.
Quote from: settler on May 19, 2023, 07:45:59Quote from: Menion on May 17, 2023, 07:27:33@settler
nope, sorry.
This one should be less disturbing and helps to distinguish really active content on the screen (buttons) from the simple toolbar.
Please consider reverting the menu colors to their previous state. The new (bright light blue) colors are very annoying. The old shade was optimal.
I think the best option is to make it configurable from the "expert menu".
You're going to have to get used to it. I find it much better. Besides, it is only optics and is very rarely shown. Therefore, we should not waste time on it and rather invest it in better function. On the main map it is not visible at all and this is normally used 80% of the time.
Quote from: freischneider on May 19, 2023, 08:50:19Therefore, we should not waste time on it and rather invest it in better function.
Just return everything as it was, it will take no time.
And if you really want to change colors, make your own new color option through the expert menu or in the themes of the locus interface (if it will be in the future). Without spoiling the familiar user interface. Thank you.
You could create a help topic for voting, but I like the new colour scheme.
Blue is beautiful! I like the new colour scheme, too! :)
But, as freischneider said, it's a side side topic ;)
Offline LoPoints still don't respect theme definitions and always overlay icon definitions in v4 themes with Locus default icons. That's true for all themes like Voluntary and other custom themes. With v3 maps the behaviour is different in the way that offline LoPoints are depicted as defined by the theme and not as extra overlay.
Quote from: TrulloF on May 20, 2023, 10:33:30Offline LoPoints still don't respect theme definitions and always overlay icon definitions in v4 themes with Locus default icons. That's true for all themes like Voluntary and other custom themes. With v3 maps the behaviour is different in the way that offline LoPoints are depicted as defined by the theme and not as extra overlay.
I believe there is a possibility that @Menion will open up the icon theme in the future, which would allow third party themes to style the poi icons as previously.
Sent from my moto g(6) plus using Tapatalk
Quote from: john_percy on May 20, 2023, 10:58:59Quote from: TrulloF on May 20, 2023, 10:33:30Offline LoPoints still don't respect theme definitions and always overlay icon definitions in v4 themes with Locus default icons. That's true for all themes like Voluntary and other custom themes. With v3 maps the behaviour is different in the way that offline LoPoints are depicted as defined by the theme and not as extra overlay.
I believe there is a possibility that @Menion will open up the icon theme in the future, which would allow third party themes to style the poi icons as previously.
Sent from my moto g(6) plus using Tapatalk
That would be great. As a temporary fix I commented out most icons in my own theme...
Is the most useless button in all Locus history properly hideable now like all other UI elements?
With the last update, there was a problem with voice commands in Polish.
Now it is, for example, "after the first, four km turn right" and it should be "in one, four km turn right".
In addition, at roundabouts it says "take eighth exit" every time, no matter which exit we have to leave.
I checked on two phones, it's the same.
Hello,
sharing a location from Google Maps doesn't work any more. Instead of creating a POI with the shared coordinates on the map, locus opens the new seach pane – and then nothing happens.
See video: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AredTfs4J1f5gvAbpdIGO8c9Wxym7A
Best, Lucas
Can confirm - really bad.
@Andrew Heard Missing values in magnifier ... well, we may consider it as bug, but on the background, it is a technical limitation of the system I choose, sorry.
@TrulloF I've written about it in a different topic. How V4 maps & LoPoints work is not a bug! V4 maps never supported direct connection to offline LoPoints. Offline LoPoints were always rendered by the last used V3 theme even if the V4 map & theme were active!!
We have prepared a method to customize this behavior but it is not (yet) public.
Ah, I now see that
@john_percy answered correctly. Yup, we will definitely make this system public.
@joeloc "the most useless button" - you mean the "Main menu"? It has had this option already for some time ;).
Joeloc, don't be an ass too much, please. If you noticed, I've already added quite a lot of options mainly because You needed them and because I understand the problem you try to solve. On the second side, there won't be many people who use the app the way you do, that is the fact. So do not expect I'll modify "Locus Map" to "Joeloc map", sorry. And yes, the option to auto-hide the "Copyright button", btw. from my point of view very important button that respects ownership of the content authors, will be added in the next app version.
@WujTom interesting. We were fighting a similar issue on the help desk a few days ago. The result was that with Google TTS it does not work and with Samsung TTS it worked correctly. I see no problem on my device, interesting. May you please try to change a TTS engine? Thanks.
@luce already reported (also in a new Search-only topic (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8436.0)), thanks.
Quote from: Menion on May 22, 2023, 12:53:05Missing values in magnifier ... well, we may consider it as bug, but on the background, it is a technical limitation of the system I choose, sorry.
@menion - no worries - the text size setting was a good workaround, funny (after all these years) I'd never tried that setting before now!!
Ok, thanks @Menion and @john_percy for clarification. Now I got it :) and I'll wait for the public solution.
Hi guys,
bug-fix version 4.17.1/3.68.1 published!
Hello menion
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=71675
my post #50 + #52 your answer #54
no improvement :o
All those unwanted, not asked for POI, of various categories, really shouldn't appear. And their color permanently changes on moving map.
@balloni55
ah sorry! I've found one issue that may cause it so give it a try with just generated and published Beta version, thanks.
@Tapio
anything related to search, best place => https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8436.0 . I'm not responsible for this feature at all and Marek, Radim and Jan take care of the feedback in a separate topic. Thanks!
Quotee it a try with just generated and published Beta version,
sorry, no improvement
for your info, with LMP on same device it work
Any progress here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8423.msg71601#msg71601) ?
@balloni55
ah damn. I really found and fixed a crash in this screen.
Interesting is that I see most probably a few ANR (App not responding) in the auto-report tool and all are because the app is for unknown reasons stuck on the check for offline elevation files. All this probably due to map shading. Try to disable it if it helps ???
I'll have to look at it, thanks for now.
@CabrioTourer
forget to check it, sorry. I'm doing it now and can't simulate any problem. Sure, I see two points on the map after steps you made > the original one and the copy of the point moved on the track. App needs a via-point on the track so it shifts the coordinates of the selected via-point ...
@menion
QuoteAll this probably due to map shading. Try to disable it if it helps
thanks, with disabeled map shading there is no problem :P
The new search broke a very vital feature: I can no longer locate something in Google Maps and then share the point directly to Locus. That used to work nicely, now Locus simply opens the search dialog and then does nothing.
Quote from: joeloc on May 26, 2023, 10:47:42The new search broke a very vital feature: I can no longer locate something in Google Maps and then share the point directly to Locus. That used to work nicely, now Locus simply opens the search dialog and then does nothing.
Create an own red pin by longtap in Google Maps, then share to Joeloc Map 4.
Issue has been mentioned already.
@Menion Sorry for getting back on this:
1.I can delete the point on the map and reopen the tour in tourplanner afterwards. The via point is still there.
2. The calculation when moving a point left or right from the via point works, too.
So it looks useless.
Anyway if there is still a reason why it's needed, it shouldnt be shown on map.
It has not the same options as a normal point. Any change here will (following your reason) influence the route.
This has a high potential that users do something wrong without notice.
For a user it even looks like an error in Locus.
I noticed a collection of same points on map quite often. Sometimes I had not just two but up to 5 or 6.
Not sure how they were created but I think it was because of changes in the route after first creation. At least the routes with the most changes has the most number of same points on map.
Quote from: joeloc on May 26, 2023, 10:47:42The new search broke a very vital feature: I can no longer locate something in Google Maps and then share the point directly to Locus. That used to work nicely, now Locus simply opens the search dialog and then does nothing.
@joeloc, @tapio - not even a red pin is needed, I just long-tap in Maps > share > LM4.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on May 26, 2023, 16:39:21Quote from: joeloc on May 26, 2023, 10:47:42The new search broke a very vital feature: I can no longer locate something in Google Maps and then share the point directly to Locus. That used to work nicely, now Locus simply opens the search dialog and then does nothing.
@joeloc, @tapio - not even a red pin is needed, I just long-tap in Maps > share > LM4.
True, that works for me. Does it share coordinates directly whereas the other method would share the name only and then search again in Locus? Then only the "search again" thing is broken. Not that I need it, now that I know the trick. But it's still weird when you share something to Locus and it comes to front and then does nothing.
Speaking about search: I remember a long time ago being able to search e.g. "bike shops" in Locus. I would then get a list of all shops in a town and could simply multiselect and import them all at once. That was super useful when you had to shop around for parts / repairs on the road. I can't seem to make that work anymore. Has nothing to do with new search, multi selecting search results hasn't worked in years. Or maybe I am just imagining this...
Thanks for finally making it possible to hide the Copyright button. Maybe my current Amoled display will live a longer and happier life now :-).
Just need to find a solution for status bar and navbar. In an ideal world, they should probably appear and disappear together with the Locus UI but I can't seem to make that work. There's only one setting for this? Expert settings / immersive mode?
Quote from: joeloc on May 28, 2023, 17:07:45There's only one setting for this? Expert settings / immersive mode?
yes, with that you can go 100% fullscreen, might depent on Android-Version. Menion has intensively tweaked this 2 versions ago or sort of as there have been some ups and downs along devices.
I have also choosen to auto-hide the Locus-panels (controlling > panels & buttons > visibility) to get max. map-area, they appear with a simple tap.
all those issues are the same for me; hopefully one step backwards & eventually 2 steps forward
Would be nice to be able to clear all buttons and panels for screenshots.
this is already 100% possible & I have a preset called Fullscren that updates all the necessary settings.
@menion - in testing/ confirming my above post using 2 presets, one with dashboard selected, one with no dashboard selected, then switching dashboards by tapping each preset, sometimes the dashboard remains displayed when I tap the no-dashboard-preset. I could send my presets & dashboards as a backup zip if interested.
Hi guys, sorry for the small delay in answers > hiking (testing) vacation.
@CabrioTourer maybe you see a problem I still don't. When you pick a point as a via-point during planning, it gets duplicated. One is attached to the track and one remains as before. Isn't this a problem you see? I'm thinking how to do it better because currently track needs to have all via-points placed directly on any existing trackpoint ...
@joeloc status bars and navbars > we fought with them a lot! The current solution is the result of desperate tries how to hide them completely. And the old system is really what you found > expert settings. There is nothing more you may do. Ah, as
@T-mo wrote ... option in Expert settings use on own risk. It won't work 100% correctly on all devices.
@Will C give a try to the Menu > Share > Screenshot ;)
@Andrew Heard Presets ... hmm, I do not like problems that contain the word "sometimes" :D. Please try to find a reliable way to simulate it and I'll gladly look at it.
Quote from: Menion on June 01, 2023, 08:10:58Presets ... hmm, I do not like problems that contain the word "sometimes" :D. Please try to find a reliable way to simulate it and I'll gladly look at it.
@menion - I think I have a reliable way to reproduce (for me) but will wait until finished trip to provide good steps for you.
@Menion
I don't see a problem in doing so if this would be seen just in Tour Planner.
Today when a route is shown on the map the points are doubled in map view (!).
Nobody knows why there are doubled points in map view until he/she ask the developer ;)
At least it took me a while to find out where these points come from. I know from another guy here who didn't understand it. My wife complained about it just today bcs he didn't know it, too.
It's not only useless on the map. It looks like a bug. Or is there something I can do with these points ?
Or let me start from another side.
Let's assume I'm a well known Locus user and know where these point comes from.
I have such a point and edit it in map view (!) and move it to another location.
Please do so and reenter tour planner for the route.
The result is a route where the via point is still at the correct (old) location even the moved double point is shown at the new location. Without any visible connection to the route.
Remeber the via point was the reason to create the double point.
Now, still in tour planner, save the route again.
The result is now you have three(!) points in map view. The original, the moved doubled and a second (newly) created doubled.
This results in another reason why these points should not be visible in map view. They can be moved, edited or deleted but then they converts to something I call "ghost" points. Somehow conected to the route but not the real doubled point.
If you need the double points please just hide them in map view. Then all probkems are solved.
New Beta version with a big bunch of minor fixes and various updates. Enjoy the weekend!
Beta version 4.17.1.2, download (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest).
@CabrioTourer thanks for the description. I'll have to read and check it more carefully after the weekend!
Another 1%/h battery saving (down to 5%/h while recording track, with a 1" hgt for the region of the track, on a Galaxy S10), now that the hgt evaluation once per second is avoided.
TXs a lot, Menion!
New Beta version with some fixed crashes etc. and mainly a new side map-content panel with hopefully useful improvements. Feedback is welcome of course, thanks.
Beta version 4.17.1.3, download (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest).
@menion - tapping the new Map-content button is very "sluggish" (slow to open panel ) - compared to previous beta - maybe 1s? previously it opened immediately.
I do like the content being displayed though! the new tick-boxes for temporarily hiding all tracks & points is an excellent idea.
tapping the map icon at the right of the map theme (OS Map V4 day in attached) gives an error regards the legend PDF (it is too quick to capture screen fully) whereas previously LM4 could open this PDF ok?
I also really like the new content. Especially the track hiding. And so that you can omit certain areas altogether. Since I don't use the shading normally (only makes sense in the mountains). Would be nice if you could also deselect that.
Awesome release. Quicker access to theme options. Yasss. And finally! we can hide embedded waypoints. I am once again very thankful for your hard work.
Definitely needed: Allow to filter out any setting. I don't need temp. map items or map overlays. You're probably hesitant because new users, shoot in the foot etc...
Bug: Embedded WP do not disappear instantly,some screen refresh issue?
As Andrew wrote, the panel comes out sluggish.
The line break (screenshot) does not look beautiful. And creates some wasted vertical space. See attachment.
Menion, if tracks are hidden but points are not, could you make Locus display the embedded waypoints of those loaded, but hidden tracks? IMO that would make things perfectly transparent.
What do you think about center aligning a not fully populated side bar? I always filled it only for aesthetics reasons.
Also notice how the copyright and map scale could go right, into the free space.
TAPIOLA theme ;-)
love it
Quote from: Tapio on June 10, 2023, 12:01:27What do you think about center aligning a not fully populated side bar? I always filled it only for aesthetics reasons.
Also notice how the copyright and map scale could go right, into the free space.
I think it's good if the bar is aligned at the bottom
Thanks for mentioning the Tapiola theme; I wouldn't have noticed it. First impressions are good.
I tried out the new V4 LoMaps too. One thing that bugs me is: none of the OAM (V4/V5) themes in my collection, including this new one, show lake names. It seems only Locus internal themes show lake names with LoMaps V4.
I may have to switch to LoMaps (depending on the fate of OAM), and would be stuck with a greatly reduced choice of themes if I want to see lake names ... which I consider essential. Is it practical to fix this?
PS, I like how OAM handles lake (or similar object) names. If multiple lakes share a common name in a relation (name=Pretty Lakes, example (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6259349)), it draws the name once at the centroid of the relation. This is tidier than drawing the name on each of the (sometimes many) lakes, IMHO.
@Viajero Perdido
Voluntary V5 LE which is compatible with both OAM and LoMaps shows names for lakes etc on Lomaps at zoom 16 and above. For technical reasons connected with compatibility with OAM maps I don't show lake names on Lomaps below that.
Install the latest Voluntary theme for Locus from https://voluntary.nichesite.org
PS OAM takes the named area for a lake and creates a named point at the centre that appears at differing zoom levels, depending on the lake size.
Really like the new 'map-screen content'-menu. Quick access to theme's options, superb!
Slow opening already noted.
problem:
when having point- or track-layer set to no-show-state and then enabling points or tracks them get of course not shown. This might be irritating or understood as disfunction, definitely with only 1 point or track. Maybe show-state should be automatically switched to 'show'?
Bug: with track-layer set to no-show and then going to track-details, the preview-image with map does not get shown and when hitting the go-to-map-icon Locus runs into problems and jumps back or crashes.
With track-layer set to show everything is normal.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on June 10, 2023, 17:14:54TAPIOLA theme ;-)
love it
Thanks, I wanted to talk about it a bit more if it's more mature and stay under the radar for a while. I know there can be some optimization and cleanup, but I'm busy these days. A Settler fork, so big kudos to Andrey.
Some points.
- I'm a hiker, there is a focus on some aspects,huts etc, viewpoints...
- Overview, display of city names, suburbs etc. was important for me, in lower ZL. IMO very good overview in all zoom levels starting a 8/9
- I think I have solved hiking networks in low ZL quite well. Zoomed in, I'm still not 100% satisfied. Red full is the international routes, red with breaks is the other hk routes.
I've put them below ways, as in Voluntary. Voluntary is just so great.
- Parking has some crazy preference, that's not necessarily good for everybody, idk if I'll change.
Quote from: Viajero Perdido on June 10, 2023, 18:31:11depending on the fate of OAM
OAM cannot die, must not die. I'm convinced he feels that itch to continue soon enough 🙏🏻
@Andrew Heard - error when clicking a legend: issue in the theme. Legend is in this theme defined over "lnk" file it should contain the relative path to the XML file (as I wrote for example here (https://medium.com/@menion.asamm/custom-map-themes-in-locus-map-203aead34ccb)).
I'm thinking if I should fix this on my side (rather not) so suggest to
@karlchick to fix it in the theme.
@Tapio hidden tracks + visible track waypoints > I would like to stay with the current solution, because waypoints are directly connected to the track!
@T-mo agree that hide points/tracks need some tweaks. I'm currently changing it a little bit ...
Bug > ah, thanks, will be fixed.
Quote from: Menion on June 12, 2023, 14:19:05- error when clicking a legend: issue in the theme. Legend is in this theme defined over "lnk" file it should contain the relative path to the XML file (as I wrote for example here (https://medium.com/@menion.asamm/custom-map-themes-in-locus-map-203aead34ccb)).
I'm thinking if I should fix this on my side (rather not) so suggest to @karlchick to fix it in the theme.
@menion - thanks but as I said, it was working in the previous beta
Can user made themes make use of that map legend interface as well? Screenshot.
@Andrew Heard
can't imagine how this may be possible. Maybe you used theme extracted, not in zip form?
@Tapio
no problem. We use a small generator for this, anyway created final version of EN legend for LoMap is attached here. Not sure how may I help you more with it ...
Quote from: Menion on June 12, 2023, 19:59:25We use a small generator for this, anyway created final version of EN legend for LoMap is attached here. Not sure how may I help you more with it ...
OK, so the pictures are embedded into the html with base64. We may be able to customize it, but:
Is there a naming terminology so Locus makes use of that html and offers that extra button? I tried a bit, no success.
EDIT, nvm, I can analyze VolUK who successfully uses this way.
Hmm good point ... app currently supports local "pdf" files and external "html" links. So if you have a theme named "my_theme.xml", than app automatically searches for "my_theme.pdf" legend file. I'll improve this to the next app version and add also support for "my_theme.html" file.
Embedded images has a huge advantage: the display of such file is a lot faster because there is only a single request to download the file. Also, it allows using a theme embedded into the zipped theme. If there will be HTML + images, the legend in the "zip" won't work.
Quote from: Menion on June 12, 2023, 19:59:25can't imagine how this may be possible. Maybe you used theme extracted, not in zip form?
@menion will test better next week, 2 devices, Only 1 with error, probably my issue.
Now that we probably use track/point hiding more often: Anyone else thinking those very old icons aren't elegant? I never liked them tbh. Also, those white corners...
I don't mind either way, as it's a good visual reminder of a temporary situation
Hi there, also my 2 cents to the new side panel:
First, like it! Wouldn't mind some more configuration (e.g. rarely using LoPoints, so would rather be able to hide those lines).
What I'm not quite happy with yet is the theme selector: When you change the theme, you still first have to go through the options screen everytime, even though now there's a dedicated button for that. When switching between themes, I rarely also need to change the current selection, so this is a superfluous step.
Also, the "layers" button may be technically correct, but I think most users will be confused and would rather call this "theme settings", so I propose to use a cogwheel icon.
Quote from: slarti76 on June 14, 2023, 14:53:58When switching between themes, I rarely also need to change the current selection, so this is a superfluous step.
Yes, on theme switching it should definitely go back to content panel main screen.
A related question is, on theme change, should LM remember the last applied theme options or go back to the themes default (which I think it does now)? I have no opinion here. Tendency for "remember".
Quote from: slarti76 on June 14, 2023, 14:53:58Hi there, also my 2 cents to the new side panel:
First, like it! Wouldn't mind some more configuration (e.g. rarely using LoP
Quote from: slarti76 on June 14, 2023, 14:53:58Hi there, also my 2 cents to the new side panel:
First, like it! Wouldn't mind some more configuration (e.g. rarely using LoPoints, so would rather be able to hide those lines).
What I'm not quite happy with yet is the theme selector: When you change the theme, you still first have to go through the options screen everytime, even though now there's a dedicated button for that. When switching between themes, I rarely also need to change the current selection, so this is a superfluous step.
Also, the "layers" button may be technically correct, but I think most users will be confused and would rather call this "theme settings", so I propose to use a cogwheel icon.
You have to click on the symbol and it will only change. If you click on the text then options will come up. The solution has been around for a long time.
I suggest to put the legend button into theme's options dialog. I rarely use it but currently it requires extra thumb selection precision for theme options as right handed person.
Quote from: T-mo on June 14, 2023, 23:37:37I suggest to put the legend button into theme's options dialog. I rarely use it but currently it requires extra thumb selection precision as right handed person.
The button should stay there. I use them more often. So she can be reached quickly.
Hi guys, thanks for the valuable feedback.
Yesterday, I published a new bug-fix version 4.17.2 (for 25% of users for now, but is, of course, available on the Drive). This version does not include this new map-screen content panel because I believe, there is still space for improvements. The updated Beta version will be published today or tomorrow and will hopefully address most of the comments posted here.
Just installed Final 4.17 afk.
I could start LM only one time ... but now I have a crash while starting the app.
Hi,
because this problem causes my main device :( ...
Could this problem be solved?
Can I do something?
jonny, sorry, I'm working on it. The fix will be available on the Google Drive within an hour. Hope I've found a real reason for the issue you have.
Edit
Version published, so please try it and let me know, thanks!
Quote from: freischneider on June 15, 2023, 07:59:44Quote from: T-mo on June 14, 2023, 23:37:37I suggest to put the legend button into theme's options dialog. I rarely use it but currently it requires extra thumb selection precision as right handed person.
The button should stay there. I use them more often. So she can be reached quickly.
Like T-mo, I also don't like it where it is now. Legend and theme options should at least be swapped (and I also agree, cogwheel for theme options).
Some unimportant observation, what direction does the blue arrow show? GPS is off, Locus displays distance from map center to post box correctly. But the direction is weird.
Quote from: Menion on June 15, 2023, 12:10:30Version published, so please try it and let me know, thanks!
I've installed 4.17.2.1108 ... but per mistake not the afa-version. 😳
LM is running but I can't use it because of all the different settings.
I can't find the AFA version ... is it ready for download?
Are my path settings gone :'( or do they appear after installing afa?
Btw ... the filenames for download versions are so long that I always have to guess what version is behind all those "....."
All options have an icon on the far left. Not with the theme. Here you could make a circle with 2 arrows. See image . Then integrate the theme icon into this circle. Then the name and icon of the chosen theme. Then the icon for the legend. And then the gear to change the theme settings.
QuoteVersion published, so please try it and let me know, thanks!
OK ... found the afa-version ... installed ... restored path ... and LM works. ;) :D
Enjoy the weekend with the new version on Google Play & new published
new Beta version (with an improved map content panel).
@jonny.blue uff 8)
Thx, I see it remembers the expand/collapse (click on <screenshot>) state of themes, even after restart LM. Good. Some of us prefer to directly access theme, some don't, so we can choose.
But, bug, after restart of LM, theme/theme option click shows no reaction. EDIT: cannot reproduce any more. hmm.
I like the behaviour of clicking themes, return back to "Map content", I think it's practical and transparent now.
Still hesitant to allow hiding more stuff? Wanted to hide layers and online LoPoi...
Counters for tracks/points, nice.
I like the advanced theme. But I'm still missing something. When I click on the current theme, the theme selection opens. When I select one it jumps back to the map content panel. Like before, I want to go straight to the map. It was like this...click on icon for map...click on name Options opened. I think most people want to go straight back to the map when changing a theme.
If I scroll down in the map content panel and then close the panel, then open it again, it still scrolled down. I would have expected it to go back up when reopened.
Quote from: freischneider on June 16, 2023, 21:09:54I think most people want to go straight back to the map when changing a theme.
Not sure. But Maybe Menion could register the left area again for apply+goto map. Just like points/tracks.
Hi guys
- counter for points/tracks fixed (there were issues with incorrect values)
- left area (icon) for a quick return to the map after you select a theme > done
- "Map overlays" are now hideable
- app remember the scroll of this panel > currently intent so you may easily continue where you left. Better starting always at the top without a scroll? Hmm..
I like the remembering of the scroll position, for me it should stay this way.
In some cases it is good to keep it scrolled at this point. If I want to show something and hide it again after a few minutes. Sometimes I just scroll down to check the settings. Then it would be good if it would be on top again.
If there was a change in the invisible area then it is good if it stays like this. and if nothing was changed then it is good if it is on top again.
But I think the invisible area is different for each phone. So it is not convertible. Then let's leave it as it is now.
It would help me a lot if I could hide shading. Then I would see everything I often need. And I would have to scroll down only very rarely.
Thanks for the left area on the theme. That way I can quickly go back to the map.
I want to temporarily hide tracks, this is now broken. I can't show them again after... hiding.
And what does it do? Hide: no? Rather unload I guess? This is not what is expected here. Here we need a quick show/hide toggle.
The counter of loaded tracks stays as is, after refresh ui it goes to 0.
The behaviour of prior version was perfect for me. A dialog window is wrong here.
Solution. Eye symbol: short tap = show/hide. Longtap: unload all. If none are loaded, bring up track manager.
>I want to temporarily hide tracks, this is now broken
@tapio - well spotted, I hadn't realized - yes, that change is of no use at all to me; the previous "global override" was already perfect
The current system for hiding of points & tracks has changed. Temporary hiding may be confusing for most of users and it is not clear at all.
So the change is, that a simple tap, after confirmation, completely unloads all points or tracks of the map > so it simply clear loaded on the map permanently.
If you want quick access to temporary hiding, which is from my point of view more "geeky" feature, use a long click!
Quote from: Menion on June 20, 2023, 13:04:09If you want quick access to temporary hiding, which is from my point of view more "geeky" feature, use a long click!
...Long click on the track manager button, which I removed, because it is accessible enough via Map Items.
I disagree. The eye symbols in Map Items offer quick, welcome, expected and convenient toggles and you removed the convenience. Which was finally usable and within good reach. "Nobody" 😁 uses longclick-hide.
And you removed the possibility to FINALLY hide embedded waypoints. My tracks are full of them, it helps for overview purposes.
Also there must be some kind of bug, I managed to show tracks and at the same time the top right "tracks hidden" symbol was shown.
Maybe you should use the term "My points" in the map items panel for more clarity (I mean the user poi in the database)
The previous version for fading in and out tracks was better. I have faded in tracks in different folders.
Now I want to hide them all for a short time so that I have a clean map. I click once on it and all are hidden. I click again and the old state is restored. I had left certain tracks faded in, because I still want to do something here. Now the state is broken. I do not know which they were. I have 40 folders and 10000 tracks.
the previous point/track visibility toogle was perfect.
Only downside was a state dependent case: visibility state was set to 'not show', and then you decide to enable single points or tracks. Then of course you won't recognise your changes until you decide to toogle the visibility back to 'show'.
Well at least this could be irritating if there's only 1 point or track and you wonder why it can can be seen AND you are missing the current state in map-screen menu.
maybe a rare scenario, though happened to me
Solution could be to toogle visibility to 'show' in case of 'not show' during event 'enabling points or tracks'. Maybe only with point/track count 1.
The permanent shutdown of the displayed routes and points does not have logic. Other "eyes" work as a hiding/view switches. But for routes and points, they are switches: "just turn off". If it should stay, it would be a good place to use another symbol.
I installed the beta version for the first time and looked at the new side panel. I agree with Žajdlík Josef, the eye icon in this case is misleading and the function implementation is not ideal.
Both options make sense and should be possible:
- Hide/show all tracks as they are currently activated (toggle). Here the eye icon fits.
- Permanent hiding (completely unloading of all tracks) with another icon.
Maybe both options can be offered separately in the side panel, see mockup (text and icon are just a suggestion).
2 lines consumes too much space again. If so, you should be able to hide them in the menu.
But you could make both buttons in one line. The name Tracks is very short.
OK, new update, same functionality points/tracks in map items, just no eye icon. NOOOOOOO. It feels wrong.
Hi guys,
(most probably) final solution published in the new Beta 4.17.2.2 version. I got your point, but do not fully agree with all.
Main use-case, the clearest to basic users: unload points. So this will be the primary function of this button. After confirmation, the button is disabled and counter reset so I believe, it is clear what this function did.
The secondary function, by the long click, is the temporary hide of all points/tracks.
I believe this will be useful good enough, anyway let me know if ...
Quote from: Menion on June 21, 2023, 21:37:49The secondary function, by the long click, is the temporary hide of all points/tracks.
I tested it, didn't even notice you implemented it. Tracks were out of sight, so there was no indication that something happened.
Now that's OK-ish for me. Maybe add an advanced option which inverts it? Default=eye symbol and temp. hide?
Quote from: Tapio on June 21, 2023, 22:17:34Maybe add an advanced option which inverts it? Default=eye symbol and temp. hide?
I was worried that someone will want this ;D
I was half a day converting a few more "config.cfg" parameters to the UI and noticed, how many!!! tiny settings that use just a few users, exist. I'll really need to reduce this or at least not create many new ... thanks for understanding.
Quote from: Menion on June 21, 2023, 21:37:49The secondary function, by the long click, is the temporary hide of all points/tracks.
@Menion the new long tap doesn't provide any visual feedback. You don't know whether anything has changed or the long tap has done anything until you return to the map. Could the long tap also return directly to the map?
Quote from: Menion on June 21, 2023, 23:08:20how many!!! tiny settings that use just a few users, exist.
See it as a sign of quality. The other side would be apps for sheeps, who eat what you feed them.
Quotehow many!!! tiny settings that use just a few users, exist.
But it is precisely these users who use the app intensively and bring it forward with their contribution ... 😉
For me, the new solution is fine so far. The "brush" icon is clear enough.
Temporarily hidden tracks or points can always be recognised by the red icon at the top right of the map and can be shown there.
Quote from: Menion on June 19, 2023, 09:13:48Hi guys
- counter for points/tracks fixed (there were issues with incorrect values)
im LM 4.17.2.2 incorrect values of counter for points see attached files
@ Gerhard: For me, the number of points was also not correct at first. After I have switched off all (with the new brush icon) and then have shown again several points, the number is now correct for me.
Long click on brush icon is a good solution. But it would be nice if it then returns to the map right away. Andrew has already written it.
After hiding by long click, the Tracks icon appears in the upper right corner, crossed out in red. But here the whole line is displayed. It would be enough if only the symbol is displayed. My setting is: hide top row automatically. Without the symbol it works but with the symbol it does not work.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on June 22, 2023, 01:03:46Quote from: Menion on June 21, 2023, 21:37:49The secondary function, by the long click, is the temporary hide of all points/tracks.
@Menion the new long tap doesn't provide any visual feedback. You don't know whether anything has changed or the long tap has done anything until you return to the map. Could the long tap also return directly to the map?
I have another idea for feedback if something has changed with the Lang click.
It shows 30 / 16500. 30 tracks are shown out of 16500. Once the tracks are hidden the number 30 could turn red. So I see immediately so that what has changed and I also see in the side panel so that they are hidden.
The same could be done in the library. Normally there are only faded in at 0 a red 0 shown. here you could then also show 5 / 45. and the 5 then red for hidden.
Quote from: freischneider link=msg=72344So I see immediately so that what has changed and I also see in the side panel so that they are hidden.
Actually a good idea. The brush icon could also turn red so the inexperienced user could see the connection here.
If return to map or not, idk. Eye symbol toggles don't return to map.
@Menion should vertically align the number text to the rest of the line.
@Menion: The greyed out brush on points does not allow long click - but it should: to hide embedded waypoints. I was so happy I was able to hide them 2 versions ago. So it's possible.
Small graphical issues:
Brush dialog:
Alignment first line
Language second line
Left panel
X alignment point counters
- opening of side panel has a small moment of stuck, not completely smooth
- pic expert settings - value might be strange, don't know. I better leave it like it isScreenshot_20230622-204850_Locus Map_compress21.jpg
Hello,
my 2c concerning the (cool!) new map-screen content panel:
– Map themes: The solution with the "Map themes" line appearing and hiding under the "Base map" line is good – it targets both users who like to change their map theme content via this panel and ones who don't because they do it via button panel or because they rather use LoMaps online, etc.
– Tracks & points: The solution in app version 4.17.2.2 is the best so far – the brush symbol (in contrast to the eye symbol) is intuitive.
Temporary hiding by using a long-click including the red icons appearing in the top bar is a useful feature.
Suggestions:
1.
Similar to freischneiders idea, I also would suggest using the "30/16500" numbers as feedback after the long click, but what about graying the "30" out? Greyed out icons or words are normally understood as "inactive". That would indicate that the 30 tracks are inactive at the moment but still loaded. A second long click would display the "30" in black again
2.
In German, "Auswahl aufheben" is a better translation to "Deselect all" (instead of "Markierung aufheben"). It also fits better into the pop-up ;)
Edit: CabrioTourer reported this already :)
– General:
It would make sense to make also the "Map shading" line hidable, because I think most users make this setting once and then don't change it very often. As for me, map shading is always activated, I don't change it ever.
All in all – great improvement, thank you!
Best,
Lucas
Quote from: T-mo on June 22, 2023, 21:00:24- pic expert settings - value might be strange
IS strange. Minimum value of 1000 🤔
Quote from: Graf Geo on June 22, 2023, 13:13:25@ Gerhard: For me, the number of points was also not correct at first. After I have switched off all (with the new brush icon) and then have shown again several points, the number is now correct for me.
exactly same for me - I think LM & SqLite database had been out-of-sync due to LM crash(s)
Quote from: T-mo on June 22, 2023, 21:00:24- opening of side panel has a small moment of stuck, not completely smooth
for me (as previously posted) it is larger moment of "stuck" - many seconds, yes an older device sure but non-beta side panel opens immediately
Quote from: T-mo on June 22, 2023, 21:00:24- pic expert settings - value might be strange, don't know. I better leave it like it is
5000% is same on my 3 devices, strange but I believe OK
Quote from: luce on June 22, 2023, 21:22:18I also would suggest using the "30/16500" numbers as feedback after the long click, but what about graying the "30" out? Greyed out icons or words are normally understood as "inactive". That would indicate that the 30 tracks are inactive at the moment but still loaded. A second long click would display the "30" in black again
agree but with the small number font height I wonder whether grey or black will be distinguishable/ obvious?
Quote from: Tapio on June 22, 2023, 18:27:49@Menion: The greyed out brush on points does not allow long click - but it should: to hide embedded waypoints. I was so happy I was able to hide them 2 versions ago. So it's possible.
That's right, (temporary) hiding of embedded waypoints would be a useful feature...
Quote from: Andrew Heard on June 12, 2023, 22:53:20Quote from: Menion on June 12, 2023, 19:59:25can't imagine how this may be possible. Maybe you used theme extracted, not in zip form?
@menion will test better next week, 2 devices, Only 1 with error, probably my issue.
@menion - follow-on from our older posts, I mentioned tapping the map theme button displayed an error "invalid value - mapsVector/_themes/OS Map/OS Map Day Legend.pdf".
I assume this "path" is stylized, not a true Linux path. The theme ZIP full pathname is "internal memory/Locus/mapsVector/_themes/20210225-KC2-OS Map.zip". LM4 recognizes the theme as OS Map, and the ZIP definitely has "OS Map Day Legend.pdf". So I tried renaming "20210225-KC2-OS Map.zip" to plain "OS Map.zip" but same error. Solid Explorer can open the PDF from within the ZIP file. Screen caps attached.
With the Tiramisu map theme, the legend is correctly displayed. The Tiramisu file is "20220930 Tiramisu 4.3.ZIP" so I can rule out the file name being the issue. The Tiramisu legend is specified by Tiramisu.lnk as Tiramisu/Tiramisu_3_Legend.pdf.
The OS Map V4 Day legend is specified by "OS Map V4 Day.lnk" as "
mapsVector/_themes/OS Map/OS Map Day Legend.pdf" - is that the problem? The LNK file should remove "mapsVector/_themes/" i.e. simply be "OS Map/OS Map Day Legend.pdf" or are the spaces in the filename the issue?
BTW with the Voluntary V5 theme, LM is redirected to the web browser and URL kmu.files.cnow.at with error "Bad Gateway". But maybe I have an old version.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on June 26, 2023, 05:16:22BTW with the Voluntary V5 theme, LM is redirected to the web browser and URL kmu.files.cnow.at with error "Bad Gateway". But maybe I have an old version.
That's an old version of Voluntary. Please install the latest Voluntary V5 Locus edition from https://voluntary.nichesite.org
@Gerhard57 there seem to be some weird statistics for visible items. Do not know why this happened, but "Unload all" as suggested by
@Graf Geo fix it. It is not a problem of sync with db (info for
@Andrew Heard), because what is visible is help out of the database. Do not know why this happened, but because such stats were never visible till now, I never knew such issue exists :)
@freischneider thanks for the tips regards "hidden points & tracks", I'll improve it!
@Tapiovertical-align - hmm few pixels off, good eyes!
long click when disabled - it is a problem and I consider the "disabled" state to be more important, sorry
@T-mo start-up slowness ... I know about it and with a huge number of items on the list, it is hard for me now to improve it. For now ...
5000% :-X .. thanks a lot! My bad.
@luce Thanks for the feedback!
1. and what about simply replacing the "brush" icon with the same icon visible directly on the map screen? It does not make much sense to "Unload all points/tracks" when they are temporarily hidden.
2. German translations are out of my control. Feel free to contribute here: https://crowdin.com/project/menion/de
@Andrew Heard I remember I was testing OS Map V4 theme and it indeed has incorrectly defined path in the "lnk" file.
Quote from: Menion on June 26, 2023, 14:06:35long click when disabled - it is a problem and I consider the "disabled" state to be more important, sorry
In order to allow hiding of all embedded waypoints, you know it was possible in first new version of the map items panel (and now isn't), please can you consider this:
a) Include hiding embedded waypoints into "Hide points" from the context menu
b) Add "Hide tracks" and "Hide points" to the data manager context menu. Currently there's only "Hide all"
Quote from: luce on June 22, 2023, 21:22:18In German, "Auswahl aufheben" is a better translation to "Deselect all"
Agree. I have changed it, I hope. Was a bit difficult via mobile interface. Please have a look in upcoming versions.
"Hide points / tracks" exists in the app for many years, but till now it was hidden in the long-click menu of Points/tracks/data icon placed into the "Functions panel". So feel free to use it.
You mentioned many times "Embedded waypoints". By this you mean waypoints attached to tracks right? Does it really make sense to hide them together with common points? Because such waypoints are part of the track so ... I won't change it without deeper discussion ... but I would expect to show/hide them together with track!!
Quote from: Menion on June 26, 2023, 14:06:35I remember I was testing OS Map V4 theme and it indeed has incorrectly defined path in the "lnk" file.
thanks, fixed
@Karl Chick note?
- extracted OS Map V4 Day.lnk
- renamed .lnk to .txt (from Windows console) so can edit
- changed mapsVector/_themes/OS Map/OS Map Day Legend.pdf to OS Map/OS Map V4 Day Legend.pdf
- renamed back to .lnk & saved in ZIP
- renamed (inside ZIP) OS Map Day Legend.pdf to OS Map V4 Day Legend.pdf
Quote from: Menion on June 26, 2023, 21:22:25"Hide points / tracks" exists in the app for many years, but till now it was hidden in the long-click menu of Points/tracks/data icon placed into the "Functions panel". So feel free to use it.
You mentioned many times "Embedded waypoints". By this you mean waypoints attached to tracks right? Does it really make sense to hide them together with common points? Because such waypoints are part of the track so ... I won't change it without deeper discussion ... but I would expect to show/hide them together with track!!
I agree they're part of track and shiouldn't be hidden by "Hide Points". However, I also sometimes wish to be able to just hide a track's waypoints. Don't think a global setting is needed, but a context menu entry to temporarily hide/show waypoints of a track would be much appreciated.
I love the new map legend! Way nicer, and easier to navigate. Only problem I noticed is that the translations are not perfect in Italian (and other languages too, I imagine). Could the strings for them be added to Crowdin?
I like the behavior Hide tracks for a short time very much now. There is still one small bug. After hiding, the map shows the hidden icon on the top right, along with the top bar. I have the top bar set to auto hide.
When I click on the hidden icon the tracks are displayed again. But the top bar does not disappear anymore.
Is it also possible to show only the icon without the top bar ?
I have another idea for the Map Content Panel, in the Theme area.
If I long click on the Map Content Panel icon on the map then it will quickly switch between the 2 last maps.
Idea: Long click on Theme in Map content panel, fast switch between the 2 last used theme.Screenshot_2023-06-30-18-35-56-965_menion.android.locus-edit.jpg
Quote from: Menion on June 26, 2023, 21:22:25You mentioned many times "Embedded waypoints". By this you mean waypoints attached to tracks right? Does it really make sense to hide them together with common points?
For usability reasons.
a) Most of my tracks have auto created (via Tasker) embedded waypoints. They're holding information/stats. Whatever.
b) Quite often I display many of my tracks at once. For overview reasons.
All those WPs are just disturbing in that situation.
BTW, hiding embedded WP is currently possible, but it's a refresh bug.
- Longtap point brush to hide all points.
- Open some full window like data manager
- Leave window. Embedded WP are hidden.
Menion, something that may cause trouble to theme users.
Inside a themes zip, I changed the directory structure from:
/name/name.xml
to:
/name.xml
Subfolder wasn't needed. Locus used the theme just fine, but the theme selector was absent from the content panel.
I then picked the theme from the sidebar button. Then themes were available again in map content panel.
Adapting to using LoMaps V4 (migrating from OAM, alas) is going well, but with a couple of glitches. Lake names are missing with some themes, admittedly older themes, but beautiful ones. (And I'll miss OAM's placement of the name for multiple lakes or similar things, grouped in a relation (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6259349), once in the centroid of such areas, rather than once on each lake. Hint, hint.)
But the main reason for this post is to mention a funny difference between landuse=forest and natural=wood, at ZL=9 only, with LoMaps V4 and the internal hike-and-bike theme. At ZL9, it renders wood but not forest, which makes it the only map I've ever seen that makes a distinction. Many mappers and most renderers consider them equivalent, as it's something of a gray area. So Alberta is a bit of a mess at ZL9, between old imports (wood) and my additions (forest). First world problem. :)
Probably an obscure bug, but the track list reverts to sort by Created when I have changed to sort by Name using the BlueStacks emulator and pressing the Esc(ape) key instead of tapping the on-screen Back button. On an Android device, and tapping the Back button, the sort setting is preserved. In the BlueStacks emulator pressing Esc, the sort setting is lost, but tapping the on-screen Back button, the sort setting is preserved.
I've also noticed inside the BlueStacks emulator, the mouse scroll wheel works perfectly for map zoom in/out, but inside the Route Planner, sometimes the mouse scroll wheel zoom out is interpreted as a pan. The mouse scroll wheel zoom in always works ok.
bug: My library > POINTS > select point > Copy to > select same folder > IGNORE (BTW note not possible to cancel) > note that the list count is updated, but the list is NOT updated i.e. the duplicated point is not in the list - have to select another folder then reselect original folder for the list to be correctly updated.
Hi guys,
I had a small vacation so sorry for the delay.
@freischneiderI would like to keep the whole top panel visible (otherwise it will need a bigger change in the UI), but disabled auto-hiding is of course an issue, so consider it fixed!
Long-click to toggle themes > because you still need to open the side panel, I think it does not save too much time here.
@Tapio thanks for the explanation of "your embedded waypoints use-case". Understand. Interesting is that your "refresh bug" works :). Anyway it is similar to the "Hide other tracks" feature we discussed yesterday on the help desk. I do not have a big problem with creating such advanced functionality, but I have more and more problems with finding some logical place, where this activates. We all know that app is really complicated for new users and I have to be more careful when adding additional functionality that makes it even more complicated, sorry.
Problem with theme > I've tried your theme "Tapiola" > works. Then closed Locus Map, removed the subfolder and started app again. The app throws a warning that the theme can't be selected. After manual selection, seems to work correctly. So no problem.
@Viajero Perdido thanks for the info. I'll forward this to
@voldapet @Andrew Heard thanks for the report regards BlueStack, but to be true, since Windows sub-system for Android work perfectly, I do not use any other emulator. I've tried BlueStack some time ago and it refused to run on my PC. Because it works as expected on all known Android devices, then ... thanks for understanding.
Refresh of points after "copy" > got it, thanks.
I hope you had a nice break.
Quote from: Menion on July 11, 2023, 10:48:04thanks for the report regards BlueStack, but to be true, since Windows sub-system for Android work perfectly
@Menion - I recall long time ago BlueStacks was an LM suggestion. I spent a long time trying to get Windows sub-system for Android working, and posted a few comments/ questions for help, but no one helped. Maybe it's easier now. Is there an up-to-date procedure for installing it?
Quote from: Menion on July 11, 2023, 10:48:04but I have more and more problems with finding some logical place,
I still think temp. hiding points should hide any kind of waypoint - embedded ones included. OK, I should not once again talk about it. 😏
As for the theme, I reverted to subfolder use. Because my experience was bad. I witnessed subsequent LM sessions where the theme worked, but no theme picking possible in map content panel. IDK, may also be related to a preset, which applies after LM start here.
Quote from: Menion on July 11, 2023, 10:48:04thanks for the report regards BlueStack, but to be true, since Windows sub-system for Android work perfectly, I do not use any other emulator
@Menion - the only references I can find for running LM on Windows is https://www.locusmap.app/how-to-use-locus-map-on-a-pc/ which suggests using (only briefly) NOX, and & https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/29607-locus-on-win11. I tried NOX once & it used far too much memory. I tried Windows Subsystem for Android once & gave up. BlueStacks works for me, but not recommended by you. I can find no reference or how-to guide in Locus doco for installing WSA and LM. I've just wasted yet another few hours trying without success. If the Locus team recommend WSA it would be great to learn the trick. FWIW I am currently getting an error trying to use ADB to install an LM .APK -
adb connect 127.0.0.1:58526 fails, and
netstat -anep tcp | findstr "58526" shows the connection is not available. Can anyone else help? Zdeněk Kondler says "
We have plans to look at the possibilities when this feature becomes officially (and widely) supported". Now?
a) I created a track with the route planner, as always used shaping points (green triangles). Unlike before, this time LM4 beta added embedded waypoints there, named "Via point" - bug?
b) Can someone point me to how it was possible to show the navigation command symbols on the track? Suddenly they appeared and I have forgotten how to show/hide those.
EDIT b) Finding: See last screenshot! I am in some kind of search context...? I used the Locus search before doing the track creation business. Now I find no way out of this context. Video of how I am not able to leave search. https://youtube.com/v/-rxxFOJL2KQ
I still have something for tracks temporarily hide.
In the route planner I plan normally each way individually so I see what is taken. From time to time this is too much for me and I let the router route larger sections automatically.
When I'm done now I would like to check what paths with what properties (asphalt, gravel (good, medium, bad) path) was taken. But the route is over the paths and I don't see it.
Then go to Map Content Panel, long click Hide Tracks and return to map Everything is hidden but where was the route. So fade in again and back. Uand so on.....
Idea: At the top right is the icon for hidden tracks. Short click shows all again. Long click also shows all again but only as long as I stay on it. So I can quickly switch on, off, on, off..... When I have seen everything short click for show all and done.
Most useful is this function in the route planner. But there is the icon for hidden tracks not present.
@freischneider
Additionaly, transparency may help you (see screenshot).
@Andrew Heard I'm not saying Bluestack is bad. If I'm correct, Michal use it all the time (maybe NOX now). Anyway because of some weird problems with virtualization, it simply refuses to work on my PC. So I use some hacked version of WSA that works unofficially also in Czech. And at least on my PC, it works really well.
I'm only a user of WSA that worked on the first time, so I do not know how to solve some install issues on your device, sorry.
@tapioa) interesting problem with generated points. Does it happen always? You simply created track from shaping points, click "Save" and this is the result?? :(
The remaining "Back to search" should be fixed in the next Beta.
@freischneiderright, as
@luce suggested, transparency should be the way.
And thanks for pointing to missing buttons in the route planner. The part of the route planner will change during next weeks, so I'll keep this in my mind.
Quote from: Menion on July 21, 2023, 07:24:09a) interesting problem with generated points. Does it happen always? You simply created track from shaping points, click "Save" and this is the result?? :(
Yes. But just in this case - must have been related to the prior search. But I wasn't able to reproduce. So it seems rare.
New beta crashes on every launch.
How is it possible, you so quickly noticed new Beta version? :)
And thanks for the report. Version fixed and re-uploaded. I was completely changing background system how the app comunicate with the Locus Store (for upcomming changes) and minor issue was undetected.
Quote from: Menion on July 21, 2023, 13:07:01How is it possible, you so quickly noticed new Beta version? :)
And thanks for the report. Version fixed and re-uploaded. I was completely changing background system how the app comunicate with the Locus Store (for upcomming changes) and minor issue was undetected.
It was coincidence that I discovered it so quickly. Now it works thanks
Quote from: Menion on July 21, 2023, 07:24:09@freischneider
right, as @luce suggested, transparency should be the way.
And thanks for pointing to missing buttons in the route planner. The part of the route planner will change during next weeks, so I'll keep this in my mind.
Transparency helps here. Unfortunately, the colors are then no longer as strong. But for this case I can live with it. The solution with the long click to fade in and out would be better for me.
During navigation I have the thick pink line and here the function would be helpful from time to time.
here again the idea: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8445.msg72667#msg72667
@Viajero Perdido captions - that would be nice but maybe later :)
forest areas - I see the next maps will contain fores/wood from ZL=9
Suggestion: Blue background also for points and tracks, if at least one is shown. White if 0 or temp. hidden. Helps orienteering of the eye.
Quote from: freischneider on July 21, 2023, 13:48:29Transparency helps here. Unfortunately, the colors are then no longer as strong
How about only displaying the pattern, e. g. arrows? This is what I do. Arrows in slope colour.
Distance circles get hidden when I turn on GPS. Bug?
It creates waypoints on any shaping point. Nav commands is ON, Brouter classic. Also exist after saving.
Quote from: Tapio on July 22, 2023, 18:41:11It creates waypoints on any shaping point. Nav commands is ON, Brouter classic. Also exist after saving.
Not for me. Describe what you do exactly.
Quote from: freischneider on July 22, 2023, 19:18:47Not for me. Describe what you do exactly.
Create a route with route planner. Add shaping points. Brouter profile is Locus-reroute. Maybe it's related to the recent BRouter update which came via Play Store?
EDIT: Doesn't happen with Lorouter.
And I remember the problem happened in the past as well, might be more than a year ago.
Quote from: 0709 on July 23, 2023, 10:04:05Or rather you prefer to display no Icon maybe ?
Personally, I don't want to see the shaping points on map. It has always been like this. They're just a technical necessity to build a track.
@Tapio
I believe that color under the "brush" icon is not necessary here. You are usually not toggling visibility on/off here. So it will only confuse (at least me) that something is enabled even if I do not want it.
Distance circles > hmm, should not. Works fine for me, just move to your current GPS location. Isn't this your case as well? :)
What should I do to simulate your issue with "shaping points"? The latest BRouter app used, tried two different profiles, all were correct. So please share the profile you use because it will most probably be because of it.
Sharing position from a Google Maps entry is still broken, ever since Locus implemented its new search system. It's really quite annoying while traveling to resort to this long tap hack.
Quote from: joeloc on July 25, 2023, 07:27:59Sharing position from a Google Maps entry is still broken, ever since Locus implemented its new search system. It's really quite annoying while traveling to resort to this long tap hack.
and as I posted @ https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8436.msg72716#msg72716, even the log tap doesn't work for me anymore after latest beta 4.17.2.4
Hi
@joeloc,
@Andrew Heard which version of Google Maps app are you using? It seems that there were changes in what is Google sharing from app.
Quote from: Menion on July 24, 2023, 09:32:50I believe that color under the "brush" icon is not necessary here. You are usually not toggling visibility on/off here. So it will only confuse (at least me) that something is enabled even if I do not want it.
I understand brush and eye symbol are technically not the same, but the blue color indicates, something is turned on (or tracks/points are on) or not. IMO blue tint helps to instantly spot what's going on.
Route planner, embedded waypoints: it does that on ANY profile. Internal, external...any. One is attached.
Quote from: 0709 on July 25, 2023, 19:18:04Can you attach an export as gpx file ? Inclusive instructions.
Ah, good idea.
Quote from: Marek Scholtz on July 25, 2023, 11:30:25Hi @joeloc, @Andrew Heard
which version of Google Maps app are you using? It seems that there were changes in what is Google sharing from app.
@Marek I can't tell you right now because my phone is having the battery replaced, but it is simply the latest Android Google Maps - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps v11.88.0303 Jul 24, 2023.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 26, 2023, 05:07:17Quote from: Marek Scholtz on July 25, 2023, 11:30:25Hi @joeloc, @Andrew Heard
which version of Google Maps app are you using? It seems that there were changes in what is Google sharing from app.
@Marek I can't tell you right now because my phone is having the battery replaced, but it is simply the latest Android Google Maps - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps v11.88.0303 Jul 24, 2023.
This is exactly the version I use. It just does not work. When I open a place parts I want that place to be opened. But only its name is passed to the search. There it is not found or among many others. Alternatively, you could share the PlusCode, but you can't do that with Locus.
And please have the search parse latlon and Pluscode. I can even do that with Tasker.
Hi guys,
handling Google Maps share button should be fixed. Please check the next version of Locus Map and if you still encounter some problems, please let us know.
Quote from: Marek Scholtz on July 26, 2023, 08:44:29handling Google Maps share button should be fixed
thanks @Marek, and the issue reported many times, of search results from > 10,000km away at the top of the list, when there are closer matches on the map < 10km away?
Never mind, using desktop version of Google Drive website worked.
Unfortunately I can't download the latest beta from Google Drive. It always gives me
a 404 error.
Quote from: Marek Scholtz on July 26, 2023, 08:44:29Hi guys,
handling Google Maps share button should be fixed. Please check the next version of Locus Map and if you still encounter some problems, please let us know.
Hi guys,
we will be publishing a new final version to Google Play this week so please wait for it. There is currently no Beta version with fixed "Google Maps share point" behavior.
Small bug regarding "Altitude threshold":
First change the threshold, then use Tools>Update Elevation => Threshold reset to 3m.
I realize that the changing of the threshold triggers an elevation update, but I'm pretty sure it's not the intention for that to be reset with the other command...
Also, I can confirm that sharing location from Google doesn't do anything.
And I second the idea to add Pluscode in Locus Search - we have what3words already, so Pluscode should be easy. And, whether we like it or not, it's much more common than what3words, being that it's supported by Google Maps...
The altitude threshold is, after using "Update elevation", correctly set to a value of 3m. It is an intent. This method completely changes elevation values so the app set the threshold to get the expected result. The previous value is no longer valid.
Quote from: Menion on July 31, 2023, 13:52:51The altitude threshold is, after using "Update elevation", correctly set to a value of 3m. It is an intent. This method completely changes elevation values so the app set the threshold to get the expected result. The previous value is no longer valid.
I respectfully disagree: The Altitude threshold is part of the track settings, so a mere "recalculate" shouldn't change that. As far as I see it, "Update elevation" is needed when you recorded a track with GPS altitude values and want to switch to SRT-based values. Or you have newer SRT files. Why would that mean that you want your threshold to be reset?
I mean, it's OK, can live with that, just don't think it's intuitive to change settings from the settings dialog as a side-effect of some other function - no other track menu function has such a side-effect...
I also respectfully disagree. The threshold parameter is part of the track, but it also reflects the quality of elevation values. The default value is set to 5, but during recording, this value changes based on current active parameters on your device (SRTM usage, pressure sensor). Using offline elevation files causes a major change in the quality of elevation values = the threshold should reflect it!
Quote from: TrulloF on July 27, 2023, 21:06:16Unfortunately I can't download the latest beta from Google Drive. It always gives me
a 404 error.
just rechecked - file download (4.17.2.4) OK for me; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404
Quote from: Andrew Heard on July 27, 2023, 00:33:38Quote from: Marek Scholtz on July 26, 2023, 08:44:29handling Google Maps share button should be fixed
thanks @Marek, and the issue reported many times, of search results from > 10,000km away at the top of the list, when there are closer matches on the map < 10km away?
This is not forgotten, just there is no "fix". There is tons of work to determine relevance of results and: Not everything is under my control. Also the rule that closer "match" is more important is oversimplification as we (not just me) agree. I may do some tweaks but proper solution takes time.
Hi to all,
it took me quite a long to prepare a new version even there aren't any major changes, just a few very interesting tweaks. Well, the new map-screen content panel of course ... thanks for a big help with it. Hope it will be a useful tool for everyone.
And enjoy the new app version (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8572.0)!