New Locus Map (4) version
Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-12-27-9-2022) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)
Versions
27. 9. 2022 - Locus 4.12.0
13. 10. 2022 - Locus 4.12.1
Hello menion
is content of Puplic V 4.12.0 identical to Beta V 4.11.1.5 ?
Not 100%, there were changes in the fullscreen and a few more minor fixes. So I really suggest updating to the public version. Or is in Beta something, not working/available in the public version, that is important for you?
Quote from: Menion on September 27, 2022, 20:38:18So I really suggest updating to the public version. Or is in Beta something, not working/available in the public version, that is important for you?
thanks for your answer,
i am using AFA version since available and so update to puplic version is a nogo for me ;)
Quoteand if someone contributes photos to LoPoints, also a gallery of images :).
i am searchig for this feature (no used search term from me fit) but can´t find it, therefore I asked
Me too (AFA) of course, but there is always an up-to-date version uploaded to Google Drive (http://bit.ly/lmVersions).
Gallery is visible
a) in your profile (click on the profile in the main menu > My photos) or
b) if you display any photo attached to LoPoint, at the bottom should be visible the avatar & name of the author - click on it to display its public profile. This is available only in the app itself, but the same functionality on the web is in preparation.
Btw. on the web, for a few days, is a POI detail finally ... together with photos, like this one (https://web.locusmap.app/en/?lat=50.090863&lng=14.400556&z=19&poi=22977201). I believe it will be very useful addition.
I again created a dashboard with horz/ vert accuracy/ HDOP/ VDOP/ PDOP. On the Android v8 phone only horz accuracy is displayed. On the Android v12 tablet only horz/vert accuracy is displayed. I know that the relevant NMEA sentences are being received though, with valid xDOP fields. Interesting the vertical accuracy is similar to good horizontal, even from startup, although I know it's quite bad when LM is 1st started.
how do I enable labels on satellite maps please?
toggling visibility instead of mistaken scroll is now working nicely in track & point lists, thanks
route planner: I had accidentally set LoRouter online as source (instead of offline), but there was no data connection; add next point; error message just says "route cannot be computed" - suggest improving the message - I thought it was a missing RD4 file but was quite confused.
4.12.0 Gold AFA
QuoteGallery is visible
a) in your profile (click on the profile in the main menu > My photos) or
b) if you display any photo attached to LoPoint, at the bottom should be visible the avatar & name of the author - click on it to display its public profile. This is available only in the app itself, but the same functionality on the web is in preparation.
thanks for your explanation, now i have found it
but when i choose the following procedure LM4 crashes
menu/Locus Store/my profil/my LoPoint photos > FC
reg. tts: screen vid Locus 4.12.0 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/16-CJGOp8kKpMn0izkn3W58KKNv9sRZm8/view)
just minor, bur irritating as not consistent. Language set is the correct one.
Started to navigate and driving with tts-commands only and using in-ears, no view at screen while driving.
Hi,
the changelog states "automatic loading of fresh info for offline LoPoints" . What is meant by that?
Any chance that it fixes the issue that sometimes prevents the Offline Lopoints from loading (as described here : https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7527.0 )?
It seems to happen less often now, but just last week I ran into the issue again.
Suddenly the LoPoints disappear from the map and when you click on "LoPoints (offline)" they don´t come back.
Also the selection doesn´t stick, so when you go back to the "Map-Screen Content" screen the offline LoPoints are not selected anymore. The Online Lopoints can be selected and work.
Restarting the App does not help, but at some point it just starts to work again. I can´t see any pattern for this behaviour.
I was using the "Germany South" map (dated September 2021).
Keep up the good work!
Edit - corrected some typos.
@Andrew Heard
are you sure that GGA sentence is received on your tablet? You may record a short NMEA message and share it with me for test, thanks.
Labels on the satellite map > in the "Online" tab of maps manager is a separate "Satellite with labels" map available.
Error in route planner for online LoRouter > good point, thanks, improved.
@balloni55
hmm may you please send me a link (or just coordinates & name) of POI where I may find any photo from you? To see your profile on own device, thanks!
@eldron
"Automatic loading of fresh info for offline LoPoints" > very nice new feature. When you click and display detail of the offline LoPoint, it, when the internet connection is available, tries to download fresh data from our web server. So with very little data connection, you get fresh data for even very old LoPoints.
Problem with loading of offline LoPoints > this probably won't help here, sorry.
Quotemay you please send me a link (or just coordinates & name) of POI where I may find any photo from you?
https://web.locusmap.app/de/?lat=48.912812&lng=8.894849&z=16&poi=17013663&poi_img=75b9dde1-a33d-4d48-a3fa-b8e95ac6f17a
Thanks for the reply. That feature does sound interesting. Does the new information get stored permanently or just temporarily?
Any idea what could be causing the disappearance of the offline LoPoints or how to get them back?
Since my post in the other thread I have changed my phone, but the problem stayed. As long as I have an internet connection I can use the Online LoPoints instead, but that´s not always the case.
@balloni55
thanks, no problem detected :-\. Unfortunately, I also do not see any automatically reported errors from XCover 4s device, so a big log if possible?
@eldron
just temporarily. Once you close the bottom panel, new data are lost. It transfers really a small amount of info (usually 1-5kb).
I'll switch to offline LoPoints (I've used online mostly) and will be watching mentioned problem.
Quoteso a big log if possible?
log just sent to locus(a)asamm
Thanks Menion, much appreciated.
Is there a log that I could create if it happens again that would help you to narrow down the problem?
Hello,
Quote from: Menion on September 27, 2022, 20:38:18changes in the fullscreen
how can I turn on/off the full screen now? The menu item disappeared and I couldn't find it.
@settler: no need for the switch anymore - the full screen mode is no longer possible ...
Hi @settler, thank you for question.
Fullscreen mode was added to Locus, when Android did not support translucent status bar and navigation bar. Both system bars were pinned to the screen without possibility to style them. The only option was to hide them to increase space for application (fullscreen mode). Over time, options to style system bars were added and also from 2018 there are many devices with notch, which are unusable with fullscreen mode, because some important UI elements are hidden behind notch. So we decided to delete fullscreen mode from application and improve UI in map screens, so the map is properly visible behind system bars in both orientations. On the other screens, fullscreen mode does not make sense at all.
@balloni55
hmm I see no report on my email or support locus.map@asamm.com (locus.map@asamm.com) email. May you please check it? Thanks
@Tapio
regards the navigation line coloring issue here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?msg=69151), it is currently not a problem. The app draws only a part of the route right "before you" in defined color. Rest till the target is then drawn in a little less visible style, to distinguish the route in case it overlaps.
QuoteI see no report on my email or support locus.map@asamm.com email. May you please check it?
just now i send it again to this mail adress
Quote from: Marek Scholtz on September 30, 2022, 08:08:46Hi @settler, thank you for question.
Fullscreen mode was added to Locus, when Android did not support translucent status bar and navigation bar. ... So we decided to delete fullscreen mode from application and improve UI in map screens, so the map is properly visible behind system bars in both orientations. On the other screens, fullscreen mode does not make sense at all.
It's a pity, sometimes the full screen mode was good.
[quote author=Menion link=msg=69203 date=1664521563
The app draws only a part of the route right "before you" in defined color. Rest till the target is then drawn in a little less visible style, to distinguish the route in case it overlaps.
[/quote]
Just as a feedback. It's an extremly good feature in my case. Thanks for it.
Test version 4.12.0.1 with 15+ small fixes and improvements uploaded for testing.
Seems that an official bug-fix version next week will be necessary :). Btw. have a nice weekend!
V 4.12.0.1
Quotebut when i choose the following procedure LM4 crashes
menu/Locus Store/my profil/my LoPoint photos > FC
confirm solved, thanks :D
Quote from: Menion on September 29, 2022, 14:42:27are you sure that GGA sentence is received on your tablet? You may record a short NMEA message and share it with me for test, thanks.
@menion - strange, now my dashboard shows xDOP fields, although not vertical accuracy - is that ok? I am in a different state (3000km away), but surely same GGA sentences?
So for testing, should I not see any wacko elevations @ startup, unpause etc. or how to test?
xDOP update: it appears these values are only parsed/ decoded when NMEA recording is enabled.
@Andrew Heard
ah thanks, amazing observation. This is it! I'll improve it, so next version will be for sure > perfect ;)
Hello menion
why are no "Co apps" (e.g. WhereYouGo) available inside LM4 for add to sidepanel?
Hi
@balloni55 ,
hmm, good observation. As I see, I've disabled (in the LM4) this option with my comment: "Problem with unification with "add-ons", so for now, visibility in list of functions disabled" > what this means? Do not know :), it happened on 12/2020.
Anyway, as I see, only the c:geo is actively developed. Also, you are the first who noticed this after two years, so it really is not a problem. This is more of a question if this "Co-apps" category makes sense. Here, apps that somehow cooperated with Locus Map are listed. Hmm, it should be a lot more interesting to create a list of apps, that are useful to use together with Locus Map ...
Does it have any advantage to you to have these apps on the list? Because once installed, you should be easily able to add them to the side panel over "Add link to app" right?
Hello menion
QuoteBecause once installed, you should be easily able to add them to the side panel over "Add link to app" right?
I fully agree if the desired apps are also available there. ;)
I noticed this difference from LMP to LM4 when I was trying to understand a problem and different statements in connection with WherYouGo.
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8140.0
Some time ago it was possible to select Locus as the map base in the settings of WherYouGo.
When clicking on "map-button" in WherYouGo, Locus was opened and you could work with this map, a change between the two programs was possible without problems.
With Holger, this seems to still work ?
With me and other users appears with the above settings after a click on map the following window although Locus is installed with me.
A meaningful work is not possible so
Hmm ...
I was working on WhereYouGo in far history. A year+ ago, I moved the whole project under the c:geo team. There were people interested in further development so why not ...
Because of this, I have no influence on how this app works now, sorry.
I'm sure there was a setting to change it but I can't find.
When navigating to map orientation is auto rotate. Works fine until I stand still. When halt the map rotates to something else. Mostly to more or less oposite direction. I think there was a setting to disable this rotation on hold.
Map rotation mode is set to GPS
Hi, hmm and are you sure that the start of the navigation does not apply a "Preset" that has defined different rotation mode? This really looks like a rotation by the sensor or auto-change based on the speed.
Good point but shouldn't be the reason. Map rotation mode isn't included in presets. I'll include it just for testing.
Btw does route recalculation influences back on track detection?
I have recalculation disabled. After starting navigation without being exactly on the route, Locus often doesn't detect that I'm reaching (then follow) route. In this case just a stop/start of navigaton helps.
I never had this when recalculation was enabled.
New versions 4.12.1 / 3.63.1 published.
@CabrioTourer
Route recalculation should have no effect on the "Out of track" detection.
Anyway in the worst case when the app does not detect you are back on route, in the navigation menu is the "Nearest point" button that should help here.
Menion, can you provide an afa-version of 4.13.1?
Ah sorry, I wrote I've published 4.13.1 > it is 4.12.1 and it already is available on the Google Drive.
Initial observations with xDOP decoding: initial displayed vertical accuracy was more accurate than horizontal - seems very unlikely. Then once xDOP fields were being received & decoded the vertical accuracy was never again displayed. Quite odd.
Hello menion
normally there are 5 buttons in the bottom bar of the main window of an opened geocache.
Currently, for most geocaches, only 4 buttons are visible for me and the 3-dot button is not visible.
This button is only visible after opening the waypoints and go back or a run a cache update.
after the next start of locus the game starts again from the beginning
Quote from: Menion on September 27, 2022, 21:14:12Gallery is visible
a) in your profile (click on the profile in the main menu > My photos)
Good to know, I wouldn't have found it there. Radim mentioned it will be possible to change the published name:
Quote from: Radim V on June 21, 2022, 11:31:59Hi, You will be able to change displayed name to something generic and anonymous.
Couldn't find this functionality. Is it implemented? I don't mind if the people from Locus map know who actually made the photo, but I don't want that it is published under my account name. Not being able to set an alias keeps me away from adding photos.
Does "Record only when moving" even work at all? I'm aware of the complexity of movement detection - and GPS position deviation... but here it does never pause. On no movement: GPS points deviate somewhere inside a 10m radius, speed between 0 and 1km/h, nothing unusual IMO.
There's some papers out there, Locus would IMO benefit from movement detection. It then could add additional service like auto adding pause waypoints. "Where and how long did I pause" is some important information for hikers, cyclists...
https://www.cbs.nl/-/media/_pdf/2020/01/stop-and-go-detection-in-gps-position-data.pdf
https://kth.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1065443/FULLTEXT01.pdf
This is just too complex to do in Tasker, I would have done it otherwise. It would be already awesome if Locus could publish a more sophistically calculated movement state via its API (-> Tasker plugin) as a first step.
Quote from: Tapio on October 16, 2022, 12:46:36GPS points deviate somewhere inside a 10m radius, speed between 0 and 1km/h, nothing unusual IMO.
@Tapio sometimes hugely more if poor GPS signal and/or at startup
Quote from: Tapio on October 16, 2022, 12:46:36There's some papers out there, Locus would IMO benefit from movement detection
there is at least 1 popular help topic (many votes) for using movement detection using internal accelerometer but I can't find it. @menion has said a few times it is the best way to fix this situation.
Today all mobiles have an acceleration sensor. This should be used to detect movement. Or not?
I *finally* found the topic from 4 years ago with 23 votes including last by @menion 14 months ago "I'm already for a month+ working on a completely new manager for sensors and this is something I'll consider in the end of the year"
https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/improved-stop-detection-and-distance-calculation-with-a-speed-sensor
so please add your vote if not already
other related topics
https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/auto-resume (7 years ago 12 votes)
https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/improving_gps_position_with_gyroscope_and_accelerometer (9 years ago, 20 votes)
It would be so much more efficient to find these old topics if the help system help.locusmap.eu had a better search/find facility than just "free text" ;-(
@Andrew Heard
thanks for the report Andrew. Weird, will have to test it.
@balloni55
content of the point bottom panel is generated automatically based on the point. So it depends from where the cache point comes.
@plu-irin
the name may already be changed in the profile > open the main menu > click on the top profile > Manage account.
@Tapio & others
"record only when moving" use speed reported by the GNSS unit. Anyway even if not moving, it still only ignores location data but does not pause recording at all. For this, I already have prepared a system using "Google activity recognition", but I was never able to finish it for some public test :'( . This should allow to detect of changes in movement style so react on pauses or inform about activity & paused recording.
The site https://www.locusmap.eu/ is down.
The site has not been accessible for a few hours.
I know this is not the right place to report, but I do not know where to place it on the forum.
Quote from: Menion on October 17, 2022, 12:38:04"record only when moving" use speed reported by the GNSS unit. Anyway even if not moving, it still only ignores location data but does not pause recording at all. For this, I already have prepared a system using "Google activity recognition", but I was never able to finish it for some public test :'( . This should allow to detect of changes in movement style so react on pauses or inform about activity & paused recording.
I think the quality of the recording at stop is now the biggest problem of Locus records. The solution should not be dependent on the vote. Other applications with this have no problem with this.
Quote from: lor74cas on October 17, 2022, 14:02:40The site https://www.locusmap.eu/ is down.
I've noticed the Locus sites (this one, maybe others) sometimes don't load, I think due to DNS failure. Then I try again, and it works. I don't know what's happening there; it's been that way for months, and other sites aren't a problem for me. (My DNS is provided by the VPN service I use.)
EDIT: ...but right now, I can't connect to https://www.locusmap.eu either. Seems to be a different problem, because it's just waiting (ultimately PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR), whereas the problem I mentioned (which I consider minor) is always an immediate error.
Quotecontent of the point bottom panel is generated automatically based on the point. So it depends from where the cache point comes.
sorry didn´t understand
please watch screencast
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z7dr4h0gmalsfru/3dotbutton.mp4?dl=0
Hi,
where can I activate the function "option to disable/enable extra automatic zoom-in on navigation comments" in the gold version?
And in general: where do I can find the path of the new functions or how can I find them? I struggle sometimes to find the new anncounces functions. An information about the path in the menu would be great.
Thx.
David
@lor74cas
web, hmm thanks. Our old server was terminated so the redirect to the correct web www.locusmap.app (used for the last 2 years), does not work. We will fix it, thanks!
@balloni55
ah damn. This was a problem a long time ago in the track screen and I hoped this is already fixed. Restart does not help here, right? Hmm, ...
@Davidos
Extra settings for auto-zoom are directly on the auto-zoom screen.
Much announced news has in the list of news link to the web page with initial idea. So the best place is to check it.
Were the Android intents removed in 4.12? Didn't see anything in the changelog, perhaps overlooked it. Anyway, my old Tasker tasks didn't work anymore, using Locus Tasker plugin now instead. I assume that is the recommended solution now?!
Been away for a long holiday, and noticed an annoying thing: When splitting tracks, Locus assigns the current date/time as creation dt to the new tracks. Which is fine, but then I can't sort correctly anymore. "By creation date" will not sort those tracks (same timestamps), and then falls back to alphabetic.
Is it possible to add "Sort by Start date"? Because in the end, 95% of the time that's what I actually need (5% is alphabetic). Of course, tracks without any timestamped point cannot be sorted like this, but in that case fallback to creation date would be ok, I guess (or alphabetic).
Quote from: Menion on October 18, 2022, 16:04:30Restart does not help here, right? Hmm, ...
exactly
Quote from: slarti76 on October 18, 2022, 16:04:46Were the Android intents removed in 4.12? Didn't see anything in the changelog, perhaps overlooked it. Anyway, my old Tasker tasks didn't work anymore, using Locus Tasker plugin now instead. I assume that is the recommended solution now?!
That would be a desaster. I cannot confirm, what exactly? My 4.12.1 auto recorded yesterday and Tasker added a waypoint to the recording. Just fine.
Action: com.asamm.locus.ACTION_TASK
Cat: None
Extra: tasks: { track_record : { action: "add_wpt", name: "Pause: %pause_minutes minutes", auto_save: true } }
Package: menion.android.locus
Target: Broadcast Receiver
Quote from: Tapio on October 19, 2022, 13:54:38Quote from: slarti76 on October 18, 2022, 16:04:46Were the Android intents removed in 4.12? Didn't see anything in the changelog, perhaps overlooked it. Anyway, my old Tasker tasks didn't work anymore, using Locus Tasker plugin now instead. I assume that is the recommended solution now?!
That would be a desaster. I cannot confirm, what exactly? My 4.12.1 auto recorded yesterday and Tasker added a waypoint to the recording. Just fine.
Action: com.asamm.locus.ACTION_TASK
Cat: None
Extra: tasks: { track_record : { action: "add_wpt", name: "Pause: %pause_minutes minutes", auto_save: true } }
Package: menion.android.locus
Target: Broadcast Receiver
For me, starting/stopping recording didn't work anymore. But I didn't investigate further, just replaced the calls with Tasker plugin, which worked, so I was happy. That's why I'm asking (and also because I have a faint remembrance that Menion at some point mentioned that intents were outdated and to-be-removed at some point, but I could be wrong).
Definitely works, starting/stopping recording, with save/without is something my Tasker triggers daily a few times.
I'd guess as for actions Tasker Plugin just translates UI into intents.
@Menion, removing Intents, i. e. Locus Action system at some point, pls comment?
Feeling no itch to rework my numerous tasks.
Locus smoothly imported my geocache PQs this morning as always, now using an updated API from Groundspeak. Well done.
There's a minor glitch in the API regarding names of two obscure cache types that affects GSAK, but I don't know about Locus. Discussion here: https://forums.geocaching.com/GC/index.php?/topic/382502-release-notes-website-pocket-query-api-october-18-2022/&do=findComment&comment=6038267
Probably harmless. :)
@slarti76 Are you using explicit intents? So you directly specify the package of the Locus Map app (menion.android.locus(.pro))?
The time of splitted tracks > can't confirm. Even in the code - the app assigns the "Creation time" of the original track to both two newly generated tracks. Please check it again, thanks.
Btw removing intents, as discussed with
@Tapio should be equal to the end of Android. (Almost) everything is inside based on "Intent"s :).
@balloni55 oki, what may I do to simulate it. What about some GPX with caches > if you import any PocketQuery, are all caches affected by this? Weird I've not noticed this problem :-\
@Viajero Perdido thanks for the info. Keep me informed if something won't work in the app, but such changes should make no problems.
Quote from: Menion on October 20, 2022, 13:33:36The time of splitted tracks > can't confirm. Even in the code - the app assigns the "Creation time" of the original track to both two newly generated tracks. Please check it again, thanks.
But that's exactly what I'm saying: Splitted tracks have the same Creation time. So they can't be sorted-by-creation-time anymore, even though one of those tracks clearly "happened" earlier in time. You're just lucky if the titles are alphabetically in the correct order.
What I'm asking for is sort-by-start-time, sorting by the date/time of the first timestamped point in the track.
Quote from: Menion on October 20, 2022, 13:33:36@balloni55
oki, what may I do to simulate it. What about some GPX with caches > if you import any PocketQuery, are all caches affected by this? Weird I've not noticed this problem :-\
it happens with every cache, no matter if it was imported by link or by PQ.
I suspect it is due to the resolution of my samsung xcover 4s 720x1280 as it only occurs in portrait mode, in landscape mode the problem does not occur.
Unfortunately I can not set a different resolution on my device for a try
Nothing new about this issue but just a little suggestion; see the screen cap below - easy enough to reproduce - run LM, select any offline map, exit LM, move or delete the map file, re-run LM, observe the warning. Can I suggest the error is not an "unknown problem", the problem is simply that the map file doesn't exist. I guess the error is being handled in a generic way hence the unhelpful message, but in the process of attempting to open the map file, if the file doesn't exist, I'd change the Error description to a something more useful for the user to help themselves like: "map file doesn't exist".
2022-10-21 15_04_22-Window.jpg
4.12.1 bug with Android Auto: not sure if reproducible: connected Android 8 phone to cars USB charger & LM crashed:
2022-10-21 16_42_52-Window.jpg
screen caps taken from 2000x1200 pixel phone; even with just
1 step increase of font size:
2022-10-21 17_34_18-.jpg
the important details when adding a point on Track Recording screen are truncated
2022-10-21 17_32_44-.jpg
even with default values, there is a
little truncation
2022-10-21 17_34_07-.jpg
so suggestion for
minor text change
- Add point (plain) > Add plain point
- Add point (photo) > Add photo point
- Add point (audio) > Add audio point
- Add point (video) > Add video point
Now if the user has slightly higher font size or screen zoom than default, hopefully the important part of each text remains visible.
Quote from: slarti76 on October 20, 2022, 16:43:09What I'm asking for is sort-by-start-time, sorting by the date/time of the first timestamped point in the track.
I can see your point, but that would be too much sorting for the users. Because usually there's no difference.
But good observation.
Solution:
Menion should just set "creation time 2nd split = first trackpoint time 2nd split". That would feel alright imo.
Thank me later 😉
Preview of geotagged webp photos isn't shown. If I tap on it, it loads fine.
Screenshot_20221021_184935.jpg
Quote from: Tapio on October 21, 2022, 18:24:49set "creation time 2nd split = first trackpoint time 2nd split"
sounds useful
Just a small suggestion. Pretty often I moved an existing point in route planner without an intention. Thats my fault. But the warning that the route can't be calculated hides the undo button. This makes the handling which such faults a bit time lengthly.
Can you move the warning to some other position?
Quote from: CabrioTourer on October 24, 2022, 12:30:53Just a small suggestion. Pretty often I moved an existing point in route planner without an intention. Thats my fault. But the warning that the route can't be calculated hides the undo button. This makes the handling which such faults a bit time lengthly.
Can you move the warning to some other position?
A function has been introduced so that such messages can be closed more quickly. I think it should work here too.
Short click was it believe.
Works, thanks for suggestion.
Hello menion
as reported in thread V4.6.+
and also discussed in
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8181.0
There is a memory problem using locus
i recorded my track an was guiding to some Tradis (~20) and writing the offline loggs.
today i took some screenshots where you can see used memory of locus and after ~ 2 hours locus was closed.....
@balloni55 interesting - what app are you using to measure the free RAM? does it require a rooted device?
Quote from: Andrew Heard on October 26, 2022, 23:05:13@balloni55 interesting - what app are you using to measure the free RAM? does it require a rooted device?
Hello Andrew
this option is inside my samsung, not rooted
settings/developer settings/running services
@Menion: I just looked into the memory consumption on my S10:
1.2 GB after some days of run time - then exit
After start it grows to about 500 MB in the fist minute (or less), then goes back to about 250 MB.
I do not do geo caching.
Cheers
Michael
Quote from: balloni55 on October 27, 2022, 07:46:53settings/developer settings/running services
ah yes thanks - I always forget that feature - very handy - but a pity it wasn't possible to view even more detail in a non-rooted device
I'm using NoGo areas to force router to use the right way. Small problem is that there is a 100m and 500m option. That's a pretty huge step. Could we have a 300m additional?
@slarti76 hmm, so another attempt with a "split track". In case, the track "Creation time" will match first trackpoint (this means recorded track), "Creation time" for each new track will match the time of its first trackpoint.
Ah, same as
@Tapio suggested later ...
@balloni55 Bottom buttons > I'm testing on an older (and really small) Samsung S2! and it works correctly. So I've added few log events into the code and create me a log with the next Beta version (end of the week) please, thanks.
Memory problems > this will be hard.
@jordyke wrote that he is not using geocaching so it won't be probably connected to caches. I'll need to test it on more devices and find the core (just moving with map? Track recording? Navigation? ...) what causes this issue.
@Andrew Heard https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8129.msg69415#msg69415
Android Auto > does this happens every time when you connect the phone to Auto?
"Add X point" good idea, I'll look at it thanks
@Tapiomissing overview for webp photo > may you share with me some sample webp image? Thanks
@CabrioTourer As a developer, I would prefer 250m, done.
Quote from: Menion on October 31, 2022, 13:15:12@Tapio
missing overview for webp photo > may you share with me some sample webp image? Thank
Hi, I attach it here, didn't find a way to attach in PM.
is NMEA simulation gone in LM4 as well as in LMP ?
https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:tools:gps#source_selection
Quote from: Menion on October 31, 2022, 13:15:12Android Auto > does this happens every time when you connect the phone to Auto?
@Menion it only happened once (rental car) a month ago, but that may just be the phone was only connected once in that car. Sorry, too long ago.
Menion... could you please please pretty please consider accepting XML files for "open with..." and "share" with Locus?
I am meanwhile completely fed up with explaining people where to put their custom maps and overlays... it's simply beyond the ability of a normal user, especially now that Locus has to hide its home directory in funky places, not easily accessible by your default file explorer.
The Strava Heatmap nowadays is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT TOOL for mountain bike navigation and beats any OSM tagging hands down all over the world. But getting it into Locus requires some kind of advanced super knowledge at the moment. How great would it be if you could simply click on the XML attachment here, choose open with / share with Locus, and simply be offered to import the contents (if any).
Locus should not only accept custom map definition XML files, but also any other type of file that it deals with: database backups... cursor definitions... dashboards... god knows what... zipped or unzipped. Just parse whatever you're given and present the user with reasonable choices on what do to with it.
Thanks.
QuoteMemory problems > this will be hard. @jordyke wrote that he is not using geocaching so it won't be probably connected to caches. I'll need to test it on more devices and find the core (just moving with map? Track recording? Navigation? ...) what causes this issue.
hello menion
I have made several attempts to get closer to the problem.
Lastly, I started LMP with the vector map centered and rotating with no POI's or tracks loaded and no navigation or guidance.
At the same time I started LM4 with the same settings as described above but with a blank map.
When driving the used memory remained constant for the first 30 minutes below ~180MB.
After that, the value began to rise steadily with LM4
LMP remained the whole time under 200MBif the app runs in the background nothing changes in the memory volume
Edit:
today i noticed that the memory problem only occurs when
- the screen is turned on
- the map rotation is turned on
the problem occurs for me with both LMP and LM4
Hi guys,
interesting new Beta version 4.12.1.2 just published.
What to expect?
- downloading of geocaches directly over the app > future of G4L is unsure so I've decided to implement all necessary features directly into app
- a test version of the new system for full-screen mode ("Expert settings" where probably remains)
- a test version of the activity recognition system for track recording > new option "Auto pause" in the setting of recording profile. I've not tested it in the field yet so use on your own risk. The top bar on the main screen may display a "Custom" panel with current info about the detected activity.
- and many fixes ... uff. Enjoy weekend!
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@balloni55
- NMEA simulation is visible only if any NMEA message is in the Locus/cache/nmea directory
- memory problem > I was not checking it yet, but thanks, next week
@joeloc
not as easy, but I'll look at it and let you know
Hello menion
thanks for new Beta
Quotedownloading of geocaches directly over the app
search for caches > Filter > modify any search option > save > locus FC
QuoteNMEA simulation is visible only if any NMEA message is in the Locus/cache/nmea directory
thanks now it works ;)
how should the user know this? There is no hint in the manual and the recorded nmea files are automatically stored under
Locus/
data/nmea
QuoteBottom buttons > I'm testing on an older (and really small) Samsung S2! and it works correctly. So I've added few log events into the code and create me a log with the next Beta version (end of the week) please, thanks.
log send
@menion - although certainly not thorough or extensive testing yet, but the changes you have made for xDOP filtering for vertical accuracy in track recording has resulted in improvements for me. It is hard to be sure of course, but I mostly take my phone inside with track recording still enabled as a small test, and mostly I don't see huge errors in vertical position anymore. So thanks!
@balloni55
thanks for the bug report regards the filter crash. I've just re-generated apk files, so give a geocaching try again please, thanks.
NMEA > well, it is more a feature for us for some tests than for "common" users ;)
And bottom bar > thanks for the log. Inside is visible that the app is displaying 5 buttons. Weird. Hmm what to do with it? A little mystery :/
QuoteI've just re-generated apk files, so give a geocaching try again please, thanks
thanks now it work :)
why does the mystery say "Mystery or Puzzle Cache" ?
e.g. if no checkbox is selected for size, "all selected" is still displayed and all sizes are searched for.
can you please add 3 more checkboxes for search criteria
- display found caches
- own caches
- temporary deactivated caches
And does it make sense to select for caches with "no sizes"? "Nothing selected" is always considered equal to "all selected".
Extra options > I'll look at it.
QuoteAnd does it make sense to select for caches with "no sizes"? "Nothing selected" is always considered equal to "all selected"
i don't understand...
for me it is not logical when reading "All caches" or "All selected" and no checkbox is ticked in the selection
Expert setting of immersive view doesn't bring me the working fullscreen system back. Not using it. Because UIs (dashboard/top bar) are still below the notch and Android Status bar.
EDIT: After a restart of Locus, it uses full view/fullscreen as before. Awesome, I've got fullscreen back which is good, because it worked with my phone.
Screenshot_20221106_125730.jpg
Today Auto Stop activated. Looks quite good.
Quote from: freischneider on November 06, 2022, 16:23:42Today Auto Stop activated. Looks quite good.
I'm wondering, what's the difference?
Quote from: Tapio on November 06, 2022, 18:57:53Quote from: freischneider on November 06, 2022, 16:23:42Today Auto Stop activated. Looks quite good.
I'm wondering, what's the difference?
Yeah, that should probably be re-worded to make clear that first setting is about "device movement" and second about received GPS positions. Well, or vice versa ;)
Hi Menione, the first test "Autapause" on the Samsung A53 (A12). According to the upper bar is reading the activity OK. But there is no control when AutoPause is active. Upon arrival in the building and laying the phone on the table, "drift" was created in the record. See SCR.
Does not auto pause yet. Menion, can you tell a bit about the algorithm?
Quite common situation here in screenshot, sitting here for 15 minutes, gps radius is 6m. Both of the above pause options are turned on. Screenshot_20221107_103746.jpg
Hi guys
Auto-pause: I was testing it during the weekend and have to say: it does not work at all, sorry! As I wrote, the first attempt: will have to test it more and let you know.
Record only when moving: this option simply ignores locations, when the app receives a location with speed = 0 (or close to 0). This new option should really pause & unpause recording based on the movement. In the best case, also disable/enable GPS when the app is on the background!! Once the new option will work, the old one should be removed.
@balloni55
I'll discuss texts with Michal anyway if you select all cache sizes or select NO cache sizes has no effect on the result. Because in all cases, app returns all sizes :).
Logs manager > "log your visit" isn´t possible, see screenshot
"Upload draft" work
Thx for working on auto pause. Do you use some kind of shake sensors for this? Because Locus asked for Android access.
Please consider an option to auto add a waypoint upon pause end, at pause start position, with pause length info...
I found problems.
1. On track recording + navigation, embedded WPs are added here from outside, via intent. They are visible on the track. But it's almost impossible to tap those WPs. As if there is just one pixel tap area. I think it worked before.
2. Screenshot. Navigation of a track x. Locus then shows track x PLUS the upcoming navigation. Useless? At least a problem with distance markers.
Quote from: Menion on November 07, 2022, 12:39:31Auto-pause: I was testing it during the weekend and have to say: it does not work at all, sorry!
@menion - doesn't this feature https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/improved-stop-detection-and-distance-calculation-with-a-speed-sensor need to be implemented before auto-pause can be reliable?
And another nice (of course)
version 4.12.2.3 is ready for testing.
Auto-pause was finally tested and seems to work very nicely. Expect a delay of 10-30 seconds till the system correctly recognizes the change in the movement. So it is not as fast and accurate as may be with a system based on the bike BT speed sensor as mentioned
@Andrew Heard (btw. good point, I'll look at it), but it perfectly covers pauses and forget-stopped recording.
And yes, this uses various sensors in the background to detect motion. But don't ask me exactly how it is computed as it is a black box hidden in so-called "Google Play Services".
@Tapio 1. I'll check it
2. track that you use to start navigation should be hidden during navigation!! Does this happen all the time to you? You start navigation by click on the track and then the "Navigation" button at bottom menu?
Clicking on any Lopoint Locus crashes. Android 12 on the phone and 11 on the tablet.
Quote from: Menion on November 11, 2022, 16:24:482. track that you use to start navigation should be hidden during navigation!! Does this happen all the time to you? You start navigation by click on the track and then the "Navigation" button at bottom menu?
Will observe. Happened once. I thought it was due to the last update. But it does not happen now.
Yes,that's how I start navigation.
Quote from: Menion on November 11, 2022, 16:24:48Auto-pause was finally tested and seems to work very nicely.
... on Android 12+ only?
QuoteLogs manager > "log your visit" isn´t possible
solved, thanks
QuoteClicking on any Lopoint Locus crashes.
confirm
if i set filter "Min.FAV points" >0 i get a window fav is not a valide query option
Ah guys, thanks, crash and "FAV" are fixed in the new 4.12.2.4.
Quote from: Menion on November 11, 2022, 16:24:48version 4.12.2.3
@menion - doing a search/find in Settings for "pause" or "auto" doesn't list the new Auto-Pause setting.
A question regards minimizing device energy usage - am I correct that manually pausing a track recording & disabling GPS, would use less energy than the new auto-pause? If only marginal improvement I may no longer need to perform this tedious task (& forgetting to un-pause when resuming an activity).
suggested improvement: Settings > Track recording > profile > Track name format: when the ADD button is tapped, add the meta-field at the cursor/ insertion point, please don't append to the end of the text.
Recent version is crashy? I experienced a ctd. When I tap on an embedded wpt in the track details, screen goes blank and it goes out of track, to the folder view in track manager.
EDIT: Ah I see, 4.12.2.4 fixed it
Quote from: slarti76 on November 07, 2022, 08:08:40Quote from: Tapio on November 06, 2022, 18:57:53Quote from: freischneider on November 06, 2022, 16:23:42Today Auto Stop activated. Looks quite good.
I'm wondering, what's the difference?
Yeah, that should probably be re-worded to make clear that first setting is about "device movement" and second about received GPS positions. Well, or vice versa ;)
Now I thought too much about it to really understand a possible difference in effect :D
being not in movement, dropping identical points or pause record, means no points in both cases.
(Let's assume time constraint is of no interest as the new option is reg. movement)
Hopefully one of the expert colleagues (with busy Menion as a fall back) has a better memory than me: Locus puts all (tile only?) maps in one Android folder into one virtual map. But by an undocumented naming convention Locus will treat the folder content as separate maps.
What is the magic suffix to add to the folder name, pls?
TXs and cheers
Michael
PS: Menion gave this advise in the help desk quite some time ago, but my searches there went nowhere ...
The autopause test during four hours of hiking turned out excellent. No unexpected lines.
How does the new Auto-pause setting differ from the combined action of the existing Distance/ Time Interval/ Trackpoint recording condition settings?
Quote from: Andrew Heard on November 12, 2022, 22:02:11How does the new Auto-pause setting differ from the combined action of the existing Distance/ Time Interval/ Trackpoint recording condition settings?
LOL, I didn't understand the 2 sliders yet and now you come and make things more complicated...
Ugh, my brain currently cannot process this topic. I GUESS the question you should ask yourself is this: With no auto-pause options, only the settings you mentioned, how can you Locus tell to pause recording on "longer" period of no movement? (I think impossible in a meaningful way)
At the very least you need to tell it to only record tp's like every 25m because gps derivation. But what if you want it to record, say, every 5m? Just a first thought, cannot think it through rn, my brain 😂
I'm on Android 10. I have both sliders on. I haven't seen the recording button set to pause yet, but I will observe it more properly. What I see is, the resulting track is now clean from those tons of trackpoints at one place. Good.
Menion please optionally leave an embedded Pause WP. This is easy to detect in the post process now, IF difference between neighboring trackpoints > n seconds. With n being user def.
I think "where and how long did I pause" is one of the most interesting performance informations.
Currently I add pause wp manually with help of the elevation profile graph (x axis set to time), but that's exhausting.
Hi guys,
"auto-pause" without explanation > sorry for this.
Old system: "Record only when moving" option is based on the known speed of the GNSS unit. The recording service only checks if the last received location has any "speed value" and if not, it simply ignores this location, nothing more!
The new "Auto-pause" system is based on the magic logic of Google Play services that use device sensors, not the GNSS. The app is then able to receive the probability of certain activities and act based on it. Because GNSS is not required here, the app may finally pause/unpause recording!! This also means, that if Locus Map is on background, it may also turn off GPS if not needed by any other function!
If this will work correctly, old system will be removed.
@Andrew Heard
"auto-pause" is not visible in the search because all internal recording profile settings are not there. It is a little more complicated here.
battery consumption > manual pause will still be more efficient because no extra sensors except your brain will be needed. On the second side, gravity and other sensors should be very very battery friendly so I believe that difference will be minimal.
"Track name format" > improved, thanks
@michaelbechtold
you mean the secret "_split"? ;)
I had problems with the car break today.
Start recording
100m driven
Break (waiting for passengers, about 8 min.)
Continued driving but no more recording.
My settings in the picture. Do you need more settings ?
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2022, 09:25:37The new "Auto-pause" system is based on the magic logic of Google Play services that use device sensors
Does that API have a name? I guess it is the same system which Tasker offers as an event trigger, "Significant motion". TBH my experience was bad... and too much of a black box. But we'll see how it turns out in Locus.
Do you use this one?
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_motion.html#sensors-motion-significant
Hi Menion.
I noticed a folder under files/data/import.
It looks like that many/every data which were imported are stored here.
Since a while I automatically generate points with audio and video content during navigaton. Later I import all.
This fills up that folder and I doubt they will never be deleted. I have data from 6 month ago in it, where the coressponding point is already deleted.
Was deletion just forgotten? Can I delete all by myself without checking which points might still exists?
Quote from: freischneider on November 13, 2022, 09:47:09I had problems with the car break today.
Start recording
100m driven
Break (waiting for passengers, about 8 min.)
Continued driving but no more recording.
My settings in the picture. Do you need more settings ?
Same problem today. A short break is not a problem. If it is several minutes, the recording will not start again.
@freischneider &
@Josef Žajdlík hmm long pause cause a problem ... will have to test but it may be a major problem :(
@Tapio what I use is called "Activity recognition (https://developers.google.com/location-context/activity-recognition)". "Significant motion sensor" > did not know about it, thanks for the info. It does not give much info, but I'll check how it works, thanks!
@CabrioTourer yes sorry, this is a really really really old problem without a simple solution for now, already reported a few years ago by
@joeloc and never solved. It needs a massive rework of the whole system on background, unfortunately.
Quote from: Menion on November 14, 2022, 08:08:22@freischneider & @Josef Žajdlík
hmm long pause cause a problem ... will have to test but it may be a major problem :(
Description of the situation: Start of the record already at home, the phone lay on the table. The record immediately switched to the pause. Leaving the house after about 15 minutes, but the record did not switch to the recording.
@Josef Žajdlík
It may take a while till the system register and report the movement. You may check what activities the system currently detect in the top app toolbar. Did you tried it?
Hmm now I see that on my old Pixel 2, I still see only "Activity recognition: enabled" and not exact activities. This anyway works correctly on Pixel 5 A13, weird.
Quote from: Menion on November 13, 2022, 09:25:37you mean the secret "_split"? ;)
Absolutely yes. TXs a lot, Menion.
Quote from: Menion on November 14, 2022, 10:33:14@Josef Žajdlík
It may take a while till the system register and report the movement. You may check what activities the system currently detect in the top app toolbar. Did you tried it?
Hmm now I see that on my old Pixel 2, I still see only "Activity recognition: enabled" and not exact activities. This anyway works correctly on Pixel 5 A13, weird.
The A53 is shown. The problem is that I don't read them without glasses. But I will try to do SCR when I test it and the record does not start. Last time I waited about half a kilometer of walking and I really had to run it by hand.
no problem
@Žajdlík Josef , I'll test it more precisely tomorrow. Thanks for now.
4.12.2.4: The new movement sensing/ auto-pause evidently (sometimes) isn't working for me - see screen cap of map where phone was perfectly stationary for 70 minutes with GPS still enabled.
During this 70 minutes it can be seen the GPS accuracy (from LM web planner) jumped from ~3m to ~40m accuracy, as expected in bottom of a multistorey concrete building.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on November 16, 2022, 04:43:014.12.2.4: The new movement sensing/ auto-pause evidently (sometimes) isn't working for me - see screen cap of map where phone was perfectly stationary for 70 minutes with GPS still enabled.
During this 70 minutes it can be seen the GPS accuracy (from LM web planner) jumped from ~3m to ~40m accuracy, as expected in bottom of a multistorey concrete building.
I found that AutoPause only activated if the phone has a good GPS signal. If the recording is still jumping, Autopause does not succeed even when the phone lies on the table.
I did some tests with AutoPause. If the phone is in rest for a few minutes, the recording does not turn on even after 250 meters. I tried to make several SCR sensors.
Image "Start" - Recording is in Autopause.
Image "Finish" - after 250 m walk, Autopause is still active. The sensors are active and the GPS has turned on after the display is lit.
Note: The recording after a long autapuuse will start immediately if I make any Bixby command. The recording also starts the screenshot using the buttons on the mobile.
New
Beta version 4.12.1.5With a nice bunch of interesting news, for example:
- add: Ski routing to online & offline LoRouter
- add: support for SVG http icons (mainly used in the online LoPoints for now)
- chg: "recalculate all" available in "Set router" dialog instead of the side menu
- chg: new settings menu for backup & filesystem
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Auto-pause: I still do not know what to think about it, cause I also noticed some malfunctions and see no space for some improvements on my side. Will test it, but from my point of view, it is currently not ready to release.
I've not yet looked on memory problems, sorry
@balloni55 , but I'm keeping it on my mind.
Quote from: Menion on November 17, 2022, 23:29:18and see no space for some improvements on my side.
I see it. Don't use blackbox Google Libraries - code that can of worms yourself! 😁
Quote from: Menion on November 17, 2022, 23:29:18Auto-pause: I still do not know what to think about it, cause I also noticed some malfunctions and see no space for some improvements on my side. Will test it, but from my point of view, it is currently not ready to release.
Hi Menione, autopause works quite well with shorter stops. What just add a feature that would check each minute according to GPS, whether the phone had not changed the position? And if so, it would cancel the autopause.
Menion, I think the "configuration only" backup is lacking important and time consuming user configuration works... and should be included IMO:
/data/presets
/data/dashboard
/router/profiles2
I was surprised you didn't include them. I was expecting it to backup "all but the point/track databases".
Quote from: Žajdlík Josef on November 18, 2022, 09:32:06Hi Menione, autopause works quite well with shorter stops
I don't think it is working properly, or at all, for me. I've reverted to manual pause for now.
Quote from: Menion on November 17, 2022, 23:29:18New Beta version 4.12.1.5
is it 4.12.2 or 4.12.1? the APKs have been 4.12.2 but release notes 4.12.1
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@Žajdlík Josef
The huge benefit of the new auto-pause system is, that it is independent of the GPS! So the app may turn GPS off and wait till get info that some movement was detected.
@Tapio
hmm, "Presets" and "Dashboards" are included in the "full" backup. Routing profiles are missing, good point (added). What I was thinking, was removing these two dummy manual backup systems and allowing manual & automatic backup to be fully customizable > so where and what to backup...
@Andrew Heard
version name, ah typo, sorry. There was a minor and very quick 4.12.2 version, so it caused a little mess.
@Menion, what I was saying that all those were missing in the "configuration only" backup. I consider those systems part of "configuration" because they are the result of configuration by the user.
Yes, a more sophisticated backup system would be nice. Personally, I'd prefer an auto backup without the faaaat DBs, so I wish it was more configurable. DBs - I back them up manually and only sporadically. I have auto gpx exports anyway.
@Menion, waypoints embedded in tracks, can you make them display them in alphabetical order? Currently it's by distance, which is not always useful.
Quote from: Tapio on November 26, 2022, 14:38:47@Menion, waypoints embedded in tracks, can you make them display them in alphabetical order? Currently it's by distance, which is not always useful.
Aren't they sorted by datetime when created? Anyway, I agree it's not always ideal, so best would probably be custom sort order button...
Yes, it should be by its "Created time" parameter. And well, you know. Waypoints in the app are painful and need a new system for handling them. Old problem ...
I know, I love to remind you about the painful WPs 😁
Something else. Stacked icons on main Hamburger menu, not ideal.
Quote from: Menion on November 28, 2022, 10:34:58Yes, it should be by its "Created time" parameter. And well, you know. Waypoints in the app are painful and need a new system for handling them. Old problem ...
I could start again about my hope to at some point being able to create waypoints in the track editor, so they have a datetime. It's one of my biggest annoyances that waypoints created during recording have a timestamp, but when I forget them and want to add them later on, they won't have a timestamp that fits to the track.
Not all waypoints are POIs, like "hut", but things like "put on snowshoes", "removed crampons", etc. For those things, times are of relevance, especially if you use the same trail several times.
Well, I'll keep hoping... ;)
EDIT: Fixed in 4.12.2.6
Anyone else having this serious issue?
In Route Planner, changing a trackpoint to a green shaping point makes Locus crash reliably.
No matter if I come from an existing track via Re-Route or on planning a new track.
I wanted to change an old planned track, which just has 4 shaping points (another old bug, they disappear for unknown reasons) - I can't change it, have to create a new track.
Hi guys,
I've prepared new Beta version 4.12.2.6. If there won't be any serious problems, it is a version for release next week.
I've spent most of last week (or close to two) updating the original MapsForge library so, in one of the next versions, there will be performance improvement for OAM and other MF4-based maps. Later also converted LoMaps ...
I did no changes in the auto-pause system, so consider it as a "Beta" feature that simply needs some testing and time ...
Enjoy your weekend!
Hi Menion,
FINALLY, LoMpas approaching MF4 - that's great news indeed!
Is the new MF library already included in the new Locus beta?
TXs and cheers
Michael
Yes, finally :)
"New MF" ... it is not something new. Latest MF 0.18 is already in the app for some time and it is used for OAM or other V4+ maps.
Anyway, I'm contributing to the next 0.19 version here (https://github.com/mapsforge/mapsforge/milestone/17?closed=1). There is already solved one major old problem (https://github.com/mapsforge/mapsforge/pull/1366) that probably causes a big complexity of OAM themes and I've also reduced rendering speed to 2/3 ;). Just some good old hacks from my old customized version.
And more will come.
@voldapet is currently very actively rewriting our LoMaps themes from scratch so there will be probably a need for some extra customizations, probably also useful for OAM.
Anyway, I may include this improved version in some of the next Beta if
@Tobias or
@john_percy or any theme developer will be interested. Let's talk about it rather in some separate topic as this may not be interesting for everyone ...
I read through the github items behind your link, Menion. Great stuff!
And there is a pair of new friends on this (MF) planet :-))/
Quote from: Menion on December 02, 2022, 16:31:20auto-pause system, so consider it as a "Beta" feature that simply needs some testing and time ...
I haven't tested further; it wasn't working reliably or at all, so will need more that just testing & time. Is there some visual indication when auto-pause is active? This would help in any further testing.
I noticed, in case of Export multiple Points, the checkbox "Export to single file" is missing - it does always export to one file. The user may want to export to multiple files. Currently impossible.
Quote from: Andrew Heard on December 02, 2022, 21:57:38Quote from: Menion on December 02, 2022, 16:31:20auto-pause system, so consider it as a "Beta" feature that simply needs some testing and time ...
I haven't tested further; it wasn't working reliably or at all, so will need more that just testing & time. Is there some visual indication when auto-pause is active? This would help in any further testing.
ideally sound. It's cold, and the phone is often in the pocket.
Hi!
With the new version 4.12.2.6 there are some change with the layout. But now you can not see the display cleanly, because the text is displayed in dark blue on a gray background. Before the text was white or light gray. Can you please change this again?
@drumpldeer
are you aware that you have set the dark mode?
but you're right, it's very hard to read
I'd like to try out the photo-upload feature. But first, I need to scrub my real name and use my internet name instead.
BTW, the blog post at https://www.locusmap.app/hows-it-look-in-there-anybody-got-a-picture/ says the user profile is only accessible in the "Locus Map application". I think you meant to say, "Locus Map Web application" because I couldn't find it in the Android application.
Anyway, I changed my user name in the web application, and it now shows my internet name in the corner of the map display, good. However, on either of my two main Android devices, when I try to upload a photo, it still says "[my real name] will be published...". (4.12.2)
My real name is unfindable on the internet, and I like it that way. :)
EDIT: If I then visit Locus Store, Account, I see [internet name] and icon that I chose in the web app, good. THEN, when I try to upload a photo, it correctly says "[internet name] will be published...". This happened on both devices. A visit to Locus Store / Account was needed for it to correctly show the desired name.
After a Lomaps download, it as not possible to leave the maps page. The only way out is the Home button at the bottom left.
@Andrew Heard
the new auto-pause really pauses a recording, so all indicators that inform about the recording should change.
@Tapio
Do you want to export multiple points from a single folder to separate files? Why? :)
by "maps page" you mean Locus Store right? This is very old known problem. Also because of the exists mentioned "Home" button :). I'm still unable to solve this and most probably, there will be new Locus Store sooner than this will be fixed ...
@drumpldeer
thanks, colors fixed
@Viajero Perdido
hmm so "only" a problem with the refresh of the profile on the app side. The name should be anyway correct in all other places as this is always downloaded fresh from the central database.
Yes I meant in Locus Store.
Quote from: Menion on December 05, 2022, 08:45:05@Tapio
Do you want to export multiple points from a single folder to separate files? Why? :)
Use case: Say I only have - for tracks and points - my GPX files as a fallback backup.
Having them as single files in the file system allows for additional flexibility. Parsing, auto editing via an external process[1], I may only import specific points which I can already recognize on file system level... Quickly send specific points as GPX to someone else... GPX/file system just a more robust level.
Just all the same flexibility as with tracks. Also: Consistency in LM.
A complete db export function to a target format, which rebuilds the database structure on file system (i. e., creates folders) would be nice btw.
[1] E. g. I have the idea to replace point GPX filenames, maybe internal titles, by OSM properties/Adress.
Understand, thanks for the explanation. I do not think this use-case justifies an extra button in the UI, sorry.
Quote from: freischneider on November 13, 2022, 09:47:09I had problems with the car break today.
Start recording
100m driven
Break (waiting for passengers, about 8 min.)
Continued driving but no more recording.
My settings in the picture. Do you need more settings ?
Perhaps goggle play services also determines the usage pattern based on the connected devices, in fact it determines the type of activity or its change, not exactly the movement, at least from the few things I've tried to understand just for my curiosity.
You probably connect the phone via bluetooth or usb to the car and that's enough because even when stationary it doesn't change status from recording to pause status, because you were in car mode and in fact, connected to the car you haven't changed mode.
I think it will be difficult to find a method to pause recording that works with different devices and different types of activities. I see it more as a help for the inattentive like me, who pause and forget to restart the recording, so much so that I no longer use the pause function because I've been screwed too many times.
Hello,
With android 13 which is being deployed, access to the /android/data directory is more and more complicated (impossible, it was possible with Total Commander, but it no longer works....), and it becomes problematic to read and write files there (for example, to recover the NMEA traces).
Would it be possible to move the directories used by Locus Map into /Android/media, which remains more easily accessible to it?
Best regards,
Quote from: Menion on December 05, 2022, 13:21:43Understand, thanks for the explanation. I do not think this use-case justifies an extra button in the UI, sorry.
OK. GPX Point export has 2 checkboxes, GPX track export has 5.
@Bernard: This whole SAF is insanity on steroids - IF Google does not employ a reasonable exception policy. All geo apps are valid candidates, by design. But the Google support folks that dealt with Locus e.g. are perfect candidates to be fully substituted by an Excel macro. Same outcome, much cheaper.
Enough ranting ...
Have you tried x-plore? Michal (its developer) has had a good grip on /Android/data access in the past, and just released a new version that claims access to /Android/data for Android 13 (my devices are not yet there, hence I cannot test myself).
Quote from: Menion on December 05, 2022, 08:45:05the new auto-pause really pauses a recording, so all indicators that inform about the recording should change.
@menion - ahh very interesting - to the best of my knowledge I've never seen the track recording button auto-pause itself (green > orange), even with plenty of opportunity when device has been stationary for a long period and/or no GPS signal. Will be watching more closely now.
Hi guys,
it looks to me, the last two months bring some interesting news. And .. new version 4.13 is out.
Thanks again for the valuable feedback ;).
I still keep in mind some tasks for next month, just for your info
- fine-tune (or completely remove if useless) the auto-pause system for track recording
- next two months will be probably in the name of MapsForge vector maps
- and I also keep in mind the request of Joeloc for universal import, just not sure how to simply do it, yet ...
Let's continue here (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8235).