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Development => Android versions => Locus Map => Topic started by: Menion on March 18, 2024, 16:16:25

Title: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on March 18, 2024, 16:16:25
New Locus Map (4) version

Important links
- list of news (https://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/locus-map-version-4-22-18-03-2023) of public versions
- Public versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersions)
- Beta versions (http://bit.ly/lmVersionsTest)

Versions
18. 3. 2024 - Locus 4.22.0
21. 3. 2024 - Locus 4.22.1
22. 3. 2024 - Locus 4.22.2
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: freischneider on March 18, 2024, 17:20:49
The problem with changing the shaping point still exists.
Have you overlooked it or are you still working on it?

My mention here:
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74897#msg74897

Request from you here:
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74909#msg74909

My answer with video here:
https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74915#msg74915
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: balloni55 on March 18, 2024, 19:16:45
Quotespeed improvement in opening the "Set the main directory" screen
thanks for improvement, now it takes ~4 min for me, half the time as before
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 18, 2024, 20:06:04
Thanks a lot for the release, Menion. According to my initial tests, it looks good! No more problems with the red circles. Addresses are updated in the route planner when dragging and adding points. No more nonsensical track time values when recalculating and "overwriting" a route. Perfect.

Only the German translation of "collapse/expand" is not ideal. Perhaps "einklappen/ausklappen" or "zusammenfassen/erweitern" would be better. SCHLIESSEN is more like "close".

I can confirm the error reported by freischneider, it still occurs.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on March 18, 2024, 23:33:33
Congrats to Menion and team, this is an incredibly heavy release!

The /Android/media option is really key to get the Android 11+, but in particular the Android 13+ mess under control, for people who cannot or do not want to employ the AFA version.
Adding this /Android/media feature for the SRTM folder is cool and essential to allow people to feed elevation data as they wish (like the Sonny 1" LIDAR data :-)

Cheers
Michael

PS: leaves the search challenges ... see current posts in other thread.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on March 19, 2024, 04:42:25
@menion "Missing Select from screen > why do you miss this option? You do it directly in Route planner - picking from the map screen." https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74953#msg74953 - I couldn't quote you because the topic was locked.

A few times while testing the new offline route planner I wished there was the option. For example (even in writing this reply) the route planner now shows bottom panel "+ Select start" & "+ Select destination" > I tap Select start > and here straight way I have no option to select an ad-hoc position on the map? Isn't this sufficient reason, and consistent with other places where "Select from screen" is unhidden?

Yes, as you say in your later post https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74958#msg74958, I can tap the map direct, but once the user has displayed the "Select location" list, for whatever reason, I don't see a reason not to display the method.

Just curious - what happens if I tap the cross X? Should the startup Initializing screen have this X?
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Installed MapGooglePlay_4.22.0_1126_release.apk and now I'm apparently not a subscribed Premium/ Gold user - what's happened? PS. a few hours later - tapped on main menu > Locus Store, and it fixed the issue. Weird. Never seen this before.
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Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: balloni55 on March 19, 2024, 06:19:33
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 18, 2024, 20:06:04Only the German translation of "collapse/expand" is not ideal. Perhaps "einklappen/ausklappen"

done, see next version ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 19, 2024, 10:04:32
Quote from: Andrew Heard on March 19, 2024, 04:42:25Just curious - what happens if I tap the cross X? Should the startup Initializing screen have this X?

In rare cases, it may be useful to cancel the start process, e.g. if you have started Locus by mistake. However, I have never used this - especially as Locus usually starts very quickly. Perhaps the X is a relic from earlier times, when the starting process took considerably longer.  :) 
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on March 19, 2024, 21:26:34
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 19, 2024, 10:04:32it may be useful to cancel the start process, e.g. if you have started Locus by mistake
quite unconventional; canceling half way through some operation could lead to other problems; I'm thinking the cross is just a relic.

A recent update to the Web Planner allowed map points to be shared but still not user points (just when I wanted to share one). Is this being considered? Vote @ https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/31212-allow-share-of-point-in-web-planner-just-like-sharing-a-track
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Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 20, 2024, 14:50:41
When tapping an image, the primary interest is to view the image. I think if it initially came up with a bigger preview this would already be good enough for previewing. The tiny preview not so much What do you think? I suggest full width stretch (and cut top/bottom to keep initial panel size predictable). IMO this would make picture viewing a much better experience! It's currently a bit lacking and clunky.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: jonny.blue on March 20, 2024, 17:58:00
I want to upload my fieldnotes ... but an error occurs.
Where and how could this be solved?

Ops 🤔... after three attempts it suddenly was working.👍
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: freischneider on March 20, 2024, 19:02:40
Quote from: Tapio on March 20, 2024, 14:50:41When tapping an image, the primary interest is to view the image. I think if it initially came up with a bigger preview this would already be good enough for previewing. The tiny preview not so much What do you think? I suggest full width stretch (and cut top/bottom to keep initial panel size predictable). IMO this would make picture viewing a much better experience! It's currently a bit lacking and clunky.
The preview larger....yes and no. Then I see less of the other information and have to scroll earlier.
When I click on the image it becomes large. The whole screen width. But when I rotate the phone, the image is not rotated.
I could view the image even larger by rotating it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 20, 2024, 21:25:33
Quote from: freischneider on March 20, 2024, 19:02:40The preview larger....yes and no. Then I see less of the other information
But think about it, do you tap a picture to see it? Or to read the address and what else is there... I am convinced primary use case is to see the picture. And its dedicated view is not fun. You cannot directly go to another one.
Yes I'm aware about rotation, pictures aspect ratio etc. It's solvable.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 20, 2024, 22:04:01
Quote from: Tapio on March 20, 2024, 14:50:41When tapping an image, the primary interest is to view the image. I think if it initially came up with a bigger preview this would already be good enough for previewing. The tiny preview not so much What do you think? I suggest full width stretch (and cut top/bottom to keep initial panel size predictable). IMO this would make picture viewing a much better experience! It's currently a bit lacking and clunky.

Hm, for me the image (or the images, if there are several) in the point menu is large enough. I still want to be able to read the information about the point, also because I often add a description. And when I click on the image in the menu, it is displayed screen-wide. Exactly as you have drawn it.

Or do you mean the image as an icon on the map? When I click on it, the info menu for the point appears, which is completely correct for me.

I don't see any need for changes here.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 20, 2024, 22:06:20
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 20, 2024, 22:04:01I don't see any need for changes here.
Geotagged photos. They're screaming for this change.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 20, 2024, 22:53:23
Ok, you should have added that.
I hardly ever use it, so I don't care. But it might be more useful there than with (photo) points.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: freischneider on March 21, 2024, 07:41:48
Quote from: Tapio on March 20, 2024, 22:06:20
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 20, 2024, 22:04:01I don't see any need for changes here.
Geotagged photos. They're screaming for this change.
I don't use that. I was talking about a normal point to which I have added an image.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 21, 2024, 08:21:39
Ok, then I'll repeat myself:
I don't see any need for changes here.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on March 21, 2024, 08:53:19
There seem to be minor crashes, so expect a new bug-fix version today.

@freischneider
problem with lost shaping/navigation points > thanks, got it

@Andrew Heard
I still can't entirely agree with the "Pick on the map" option in the selection dialog. Mainly because it will open another dialog with the map above the map planner. Does not make much sense to me, sorry.

Cross during init > well, it should not be a problem to tap on it. Usually, you should also see a blue loading screen. Not a big problem I believe, but yes, should be somehow blocked together with the hardware back press (just to be safe not to interrupt some main tasks during the start).

Sharing of user points > yes, it is planned. We now need a big switch to "Data manager V2". ETA? September 2024.

@Tapio
preview image size > improved gallery for viewing images is on the way (next month). Making the first image some kind of "Top image" and make it larger. Hmm, interesting idea to consider ...

@jonny.blue
401 error > hmm, it is a 401 HTTP error so it looks like a temporary glitch on the Grounspeak side.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: freischneider on March 21, 2024, 18:10:07
Quote from: Menion on March 21, 2024, 08:53:19@freischneider
 Problem mit verlorenen Formungs-/Navigationspunkten > Danke, verstanden
The shaping points are now converted correctly.  Thank you

you had written here: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74909#msg74909
"Turn-by-turn instructions for manual segments should be possible"
I would be very happy about this improvement.  It would save me the trouble of converting the shaping points.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 21, 2024, 18:25:59
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 20, 2024, 22:53:23Ok, you should have added that.
I hardly ever use it, so I don't care. But it might be more useful there than with (photo) points
Absolutely because if I walk in an area I once was I could quickly review the photos I took in the area.
Quickly is the point here because out in the wild I don't want to tap a lot. Eg. sometimes I remake photos from the same spot I once was, an easy way to look at a picture is helpful. And currently the bottom panel as in my screenshot above just wastes the space which could be used for the photo.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: 0709 on March 22, 2024, 09:23:37
Quote from: freischneider on March 21, 2024, 18:10:07you had written here: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74909#msg74909
"Turn-by-turn instructions for manual segments should be possible"
I would be very happy about this improvement.  It would save me the trouble of converting the shaping points.

Manual beeline instructions through the clock notation. The clock guiding notation is already known in Locus map for many years.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 22, 2024, 12:07:46
Quote from: 0709 on March 22, 2024, 09:23:37- The clock guiding notation mode is already known in Locus map for many years.
WAIT WUT WHERE
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: 0709 on March 23, 2024, 10:12:16
https://docs.locusmap.app/doku.php?id=manual:user_guide:functions:guidance#target_notifications
Locus uses the clock notation as a GUIDING direction pointer during OFFTRACK situations.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: T-mo on March 23, 2024, 16:08:31
4.22.1_1127
deja-vu: black bar at top again at initial start, after switching to e.g. settings or route planner it disappears

@clock code instructions:
the only turn instructions that I know and ever read about are those in the tts-file, or alternatively simple beep or vibration patterns.
For my taste i don't prefer this intense differentiation of navigation and guiding and all options, it's more 1 topic and use cases and scenarios and set of options in my opinion. As far as I understood the diffentiation is a hurdle for new users too, but though it is.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 25, 2024, 14:24:37
Finally found the time to try out new Navigate To/Routeplanner: Liking what I see :), but one thing bothers me:
Say I want to later cycle somewhere, so at home I select the destination, choose NagivateTo, the routeplanner opens, but there's no route, because I have no exact GPS right now, but the starting point is fixed to GPS. So nothing will be calculated until Locus gets a GPS fix.
That was the default in previous version, but there I could just tap on the starting point and e.g. choose my stored Home location.

Yes, there's a workaround (add new waypoint before, choose Home, delete the "Waiting for GPS" point), but that's tedious. Did I overlook something or could that be improved?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 25, 2024, 14:37:14
You can still do this. Simply start the route planner directly instead of "Navigate to", then you can select the starting point on the map.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: freischneider on March 25, 2024, 17:33:48
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 25, 2024, 14:37:14You can still do this. Simply start the route planner directly instead of "Navigate to", then you can select the starting point on the map.
Use plan route by instead of navigating.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: T-mo on March 25, 2024, 18:38:00
If home is visible as marker/POI, then simply click on it and then select the start-point-symbol, so it gets used as shaping point and the segment gets calculated.
If not, you can use the 3-dot-menu of 'Waiting for GPS...' and then change location. Be careful to move the map before using 'screen center' as only available select-on-map-choice otherwise you'll get an error as starting and end point is identical. In the past there has been 'select on map', now it's missing though useful and there's plenty of space given..god knows why. Maybe this was the meaningful point in the one discussion.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 25, 2024, 19:53:08
Quote from: T-mo on March 25, 2024, 18:38:00If not, you can use the 3-dot-menu of 'Waiting for GPS...' and then change location.
No, you can't only add before or after. The menu entry "Change location" should also be shown when "Waiting for GPS" is active.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 25, 2024, 19:57:00
Quote from: freischneider on March 25, 2024, 17:33:48
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 25, 2024, 14:37:14You can still do this. Simply start the route planner directly instead of "Navigate to", then you can select the starting point on the map.
Use plan route by instead of navigating.
Thx. Not quite the same, because the "Navigate" button becomes the "Save" button and now one needs the detour through the menu. But better than adding and removing points.

Still, as written before, best would be to just have "Delete location" on the 3-dot-menu when "Waiting for GPS" is shown...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: lor74cas on March 26, 2024, 09:58:26
Quote from: Andrew Heard on March 19, 2024, 04:42:25@menion "Missing Select from screen > why do you miss this option? You do it directly in Route planner - picking from the map screen." https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74953#msg74953 (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74953#msg74953) - I couldn't quote you because the topic was locked.

A few times while testing the new offline route planner I wished there was the option. For example (even in writing this reply) the route planner now shows bottom panel "+ Select start" & "+ Select destination" > I tap Select start > and here straight way I have no option to select an ad-hoc position on the map? Isn't this sufficient reason, and consistent with other places where "Select from screen" is unhidden?

Yes, as you say in your later post https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74958#msg74958 (https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=8743.msg74958#msg74958), I can tap the map direct, but once the user has displayed the "Select location" list, for whatever reason, I don't see a reason not to display the method.

I agree, the same for me "A few times while testing the new offline route planner"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on March 27, 2024, 08:15:15
@slarti76
missing change GPS start location > all was already suggested, so just one more note. "Navigate" should be still available in the Route planner main menu.

I'm thinking if your use-case should be used by more users, but starting navigation NOT from my current location does not make too much sense to me, sorry. Why you should do it? Prepare the route before you ride (with "Plan to") or once you are out to start navigation immediately (with "Navigate to").

@lor74cas
while testing ... hmm, give it a while please, if this option will be really useful. I still think, it isn't. Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 27, 2024, 15:47:28
Quote from: Menion on March 27, 2024, 08:15:15@slarti76
missing change GPS start location > all was already suggested, so just one more note. "Navigate" should be still available in the Route planner main menu.

I'm thinking if your use-case should be used by more users, but starting navigation NOT from my current location does not make too much sense to me, sorry. Why you should do it? Prepare the route before you ride (with "Plan to") or once you are out to start navigation immediately (with "Navigate to").
Well, as I wrote, I do it at home where GPS can be insufficient. Especially in winter, I would start navigation before I go out into the cold, and of course I want to see where Locus is taking me, and possibly edit it. Which I also don't want to do once I'm out, with gloves on.
So it's not starting from another location then the current, it's specifically when you don't have a GPS fix and need to manually tell Locus where you're starting.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 27, 2024, 17:31:36
Menion, one thing to consider. If navigation is already active and we press the "Navigate" button in sidebar, the current ui makes no sense I guess. I think it should start the route editor in "re-route" mode (like when you click re-route on a track). Or stop nav,idk.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on March 28, 2024, 15:47:57
The new beta version 4.22.2.1 was just generated with a bunch of very interesting changes.
Have a nice weekend, we have four free days now, so excuse me and enjoy sunny days!

@Tapio
good point, thanks. I'll think about it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 28, 2024, 20:19:14
Thx - "Completely new image gallery" - where?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: loudini on March 28, 2024, 20:33:58
Hallo,
habe die Beta auch installiert um das neue Tool zum laden der LAB-Cache auszuprobieren, aber seitdem stürzt Locus immer sofort ab und ich bin wieder zurück zur stabilen Version von Locus Map.

Gruß
LOUDINI
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 28, 2024, 21:16:43
Quote from: Tapio on March 28, 2024, 20:19:14Thx - "Completely new image gallery" - where?
I think it's about attached photos for points. Previously, they were displayed large when clicked, but not fullscreen. But in the new beta.

Another issue: In the new beta, the LoRouter profiles are displayed mixed up, mostly in English and partly in German. (Language setting German). Previously they were all in German.
See screenshot.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 29, 2024, 00:31:47
HELP!

I decided to move my main directory to Android/media - it first looked good, then I got the sad droid picture with "Whoops! dDS, code: 12521", and now I can't start Locus anymore. The same code appears all the time, after a toast "Restoring unfinished transfer of the main directory".

What can I do???

I updated to newest beta, just in case.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: slarti76 on March 29, 2024, 09:13:17
Quote from: slarti76 on March 29, 2024, 00:31:47HELP!

I decided to move my main directory to Android/media - it first looked good, then I got the sad droid picture with "Whoops! dDS, code: 12521", and now I can't start Locus anymore. The same code appears all the time, after a toast "Restoring unfinished transfer of the main directory".

What can I do???

I updated to newest beta, just in case.
Ok, I solved the problem by connecting the phone to PC via USB and finishing the copying manually. After that it worked again flawlessly.
There were actually uncopied files, but no indication what kept Locus from copying them itself.

Anyway, I'm a computer expert who knows how to do this, but for others this would be a very bad outcome: No clear indication what happened, no remedy, Locus just broken. I assume re-install could help, as then Android would delete remaining files in Android/data, but, well, that would be data loss.

Menion, any idea what the error message means, internally? A more descriptive message would already go a long way, perhaps with the tip to manually copy with computer in case this repeatedly fails.

Anyway, no need to interrupt your Easter holiday for me ;)
Enjoy your (long) weekend, everyone!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 29, 2024, 10:16:32
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 28, 2024, 21:16:43I think it's about attached photos for points.
Ah OK, I don't use them. But I noticed adding an attachment (jpg file) to a point doesn't work.
I hope Menion still considers showing a bigger preview, as discussed, for geotagged photo display.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 29, 2024, 11:33:44
Quote from: Tapio on March 29, 2024, 10:16:32But I noticed adding an attachment (jpg file) to a point doesn't work.

I can't confirm this. No problems when adding a photo to a point. Works as always.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Diddi on March 29, 2024, 16:34:07
The presets seems to have been gone
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 29, 2024, 20:01:34
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 29, 2024, 11:33:44I can't confirm this. No problems when adding a photo to a point. Works as always.
Works now as well. A temporary hiccup, idk.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 30, 2024, 21:45:50
There are problems with the "navigate to" function in the current beta 4.22.2.1

Mode "walk" or "hike", "Include navigation commands" off. (Which, as you know, I prefer and have therefore mostly deactivated).

I select a destination (point, POI, screen centre). Then I click "navigate to". The route is calculated and displayed on the map. I click on the navigation icon in the top bar. The navigation starts. "Time to target"/ETA is reasonably plausible.

But: There are no navigation instructions! The Next turn panel only shows the destination and the distance to it. "Itenrary" is emty, only lists the target.

Now I click on "Recalculate". Navigation instructions are now created. In addition, a time to target of approx. 6 or 7 minutes is displayed, which is absurd.
But: Only the first few instructions for a small section at the start of the entire route are calculated. After that, the display in the Next turn panel jumps directly to the target. "Itenrary" also only lists these first few instructions, the last instruction shows the remaining long distance to the destination.

See screenshots 1 - 4

This is absolutely reproducible for targets from a distance of approx. 1 km or more. Regardless of whether the destination is 1, 5 or 20 km away, initially no navigation commands are created at all, after the manual recalculation a time to target of approx. 6 minutes is always specified and only the first few instructions are created.

If I then start walking anyway, the absurdly short time to target of approx. 6 minutes is initially counted down as normal. At some point, at around 3 minutes, Lokus "realises" that there is not nearly enough time for the remaining distance and slows down the countdown drastically. Every 5 - 10 real seconds, the time to target is reduced by one second, or it stops/freezes completely.

This was never the case before. Not even in the current stable version 4.22.2. Navigation commands are always generated for the entire route, even if the "Include navigation commands" option is deactivated. Anything else would make no sense.

In addition, the beta version crashes from time to time, but I have not yet been able to find a reproducible reason.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on March 31, 2024, 08:40:04
Happy Easter to all!

Another issue with the new beta: GC Live Map does not work. No caches are displayed on the map.
(Not even with Geocaching for Locus.)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: balloni55 on March 31, 2024, 12:47:37
Quote from: Graf Geo on March 31, 2024, 08:40:04Happy Easter to all!

Another issue with the new beta: GC Live Map does not work. No caches are displayed on the map.
(Not even with Geocaching for Locus.)

for me both work
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 17:26:21
An hour for 23 km of hiking is optimistic. Router is BRouter classic. I just use a profile for shortest ways because I decide where to go (locus-reroute.brf), strange estimation because of the profile?

BTW after "Recalculate all" it displays all navigation commands.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 17:35:20
Map/theme display, anyone? I've seen that quite often with the latest version. Idk yet when it happens.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: 0709 on March 31, 2024, 18:26:20
Quote from: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 17:26:21An hour for 23 km of hiking is optimistic.

Share the gpx track ?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 22:33:39
Quote from: 0709 on March 31, 2024, 18:26:20
Quote from: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 17:26:21An hour for 23 km of hiking is optimistic.

Share the gpx track ?
Relevant? It's a planned track.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on March 31, 2024, 23:24:48
Quote from: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 17:35:20Map/theme display, anyone?
@Tapio - working OK for me.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on April 01, 2024, 06:57:26
Quote from: Andrew Heard on March 31, 2024, 23:24:48
Quote from: Tapio on March 31, 2024, 17:35:20Map/theme display, anyone?
@Tapio - working OK for me.
I noticed, after Locus start, the map content panel will always show "Nothing to display" - until I apply a vector map again (directly or via a preset). After Locus restart it will again say "Nothing to display".  No real problem because in fact the map is shown.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 01, 2024, 09:25:27
Confirmed. After starting Locus, "nothing" ist displayed as map content.

SG S10, Android 12

Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 01, 2024, 09:33:40


Quote from: Graf Geo on March 31, 2024, 08:40:04Happy Easter to all!

Another issue with the new beta: GC Live Map does not work. No caches are displayed on the map.
(Not even with Geocaching for Locus.)

Hmm. Now caches are displayed again when Geocaching for Locus is activated.
But not so in GC Live Map...

SG S10, Android 12

Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on April 02, 2024, 16:28:47
@loudini
sorry to read this. The only crash I'm aware of happens in case, you are not a Premium geocaching member. I'll look at it and fix it. I hope this is your case.

@Graf Geo
translations will be done over LoRouter project (https://crowdin.com/project/lorouter), so they may be incomplete for now. But it will be fixed over time.

Missing navigation instructions > you wrote "Include navigation commands - off" - so why do you expect, there will be any navigation instructions?  :D. They should not be generated even in stable version! But the problems after recalculation are unacceptable. I'll have to look at it. The question is, what to expect here to happen? Hmm, the whole system is starting to be more and more problematic ...

@slarti76
sorry you had to spend extra time with "more" task :-\.

Internally this means a very generic exception on the background.
    /**
     * Negative result of "Move root directory" task. The task finished with an exception.
     */
    const val RESPONSE_MOVE_DIR_FAIL_EXCEPTION = 12521
The best in such cases, is to create a system bug report... hard to help otherwise.

@Diddi
Presets > only after restoring a backup or manually copying into the "presets" directory, right? This will be solved in the next version.

@Tapio
"Nothing to display" map > what map are you using at the app start?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: 0709 on April 02, 2024, 17:25:06
QuoteRelevant? It's a planned track.
Yes I think so. The speed belonging to the applied timestamps do seem to be very far from reality. It is a mystery how Locus manages this.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on April 02, 2024, 18:06:27
Quote from: Menion on April 02, 2024, 16:28:47@Tapio
"Nothing to display" map > what map are you using at the app start?
https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/openstreetmap/openandromaps//mapsV5/germany/Nordrhein-Westfalen.zip +my theme.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 02, 2024, 20:00:01
Quote from: Menion on April 02, 2024, 16:28:47...
@Graf Geo...
Missing navigation instructions > you wrote "Include navigation commands - off" - so why do you expect, there will be any navigation instructions?  :D. They should not be generated even in stable version! But the problems after recalculation are unacceptable. I'll have to look at it. The question is, what to expect here to happen? Hmm, the whole system is starting to be more and more problematic ...
...

I thought I had described it clearly and concisely. So again: It's about the "navigate to" function and not about route planning with saving the route.

Of course, there is a difference whether I create the route with or without navigation instructions. In the first case, the navigation instructions are created immediately, in the second case none are created and if I want to navigate the track, Locus generates navigation instructions based on the track geometry. This works wonderfully, and I personally have better experiences with this than with the navigation instructions created in the same way. And this is exactly how it is described in the manual and in the documentation: "Locus Map automatically generates navigation commands along the route in places of the most remarkable direction changes."

The same happens, of course, if I want to navigate directly to a point or an address, etc. So "navigate to". If the "include navigation commands" function is deactivated, Locus creates navigation instructions based on the geometry. The "Itinerary" lists these, of course without street names (instead "unknown street" - logical, because only the geometry is taken into account). This was the case in all previous versions and also in the current release version. Only the beta does not do this and that is completely nonsensical. You can't tell me that this is what you want.

I prefer navigation based on the route geometry. It's more reliable for me and also works off-road. I've been using it for years and have always found it better and clearer than the instructions when "include navigation commands" is activated.

I'll repeat the steps again to avoid misunderstandings.
Stable release version 4.22.2:


You and anyone else can check this.

But in the last beta there are no instructions. Completely nonsensical.

SG S10, Android 12

Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 02, 2024, 21:44:52
See my post before:

Do you know what I have just realised? If I want to navigate to a point/POI/screen centre (with "include navigation commands" OFF) and do not click on the new navigation icon at the top after calculating the route (A in screenshot 1), but open the menu at the top right (B in screenshot 1) and select "navigation/guidance" there (screenshot 2), what happens is what should happen and is even described there in text: "navigation by voice commands that are rendered according to the shape of the track" (screenshot 3). All commands are created and listed in "Itenerary". 

So this still works (fortunately), just not via the new function icon (A) in the beta version. But it should.

SG S10, Android 12

Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Diddi on April 03, 2024, 07:22:46
Quote from: Menion on April 02, 2024, 16:28:47@Diddi
Presets > only after restoring a backup or manually copying into the "presets" directory, right? This will be solved in the next version.


Seems that the presets are just not visible. When I try to add an new one and name them like the old ones (e.g. "standard"), locus tells me that this is alread existent.
This appears as my silver membership was interrupted for some hours
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on April 03, 2024, 09:23:49
@Tapio
thanks for the map & theme. I'm unfortunately still unable to simulate it. This happened some time ago, but I hoped, it is fixed, hmm.

Hagen trip > I'm getting a nice 5.5h when using LoRouter https://link.locusmap.app/r/sjie8b . For me, a priority now is to fine-tune LoRouter times & parameters. We may look at BRouter later...

@Graf Geo
ah, thanks and sorry you had to describe it "again". I've forgotten to instructions generator  ::). The "Navigation" button in the toolbar is a shortcut to start the navigation immediately, without the "Navigation/guidance chooser". And yes, there was an issue. Fixed, thanks!

@Diddi
thanks, got it. Check please Beta tomorrow (or Friday) or there will be for 90% new public version on Google Play next week.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: 0709 on April 03, 2024, 10:26:02
@Menion

The Webplanner.
The result by 5.5 kmh is more realistic.
Optimal is to be able set custom speed.
And a gpx export inclusive timestamps.

Anyway find an advisable fine tool here:
Track analyser (https://geo.javawa.nl/trackanalyse/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on April 05, 2024, 19:40:15
Beta version 4.22.2.3 just uploaded to Google Drive, with a long list of fixes.

If there won't be any serious issues, I would like to publish it to Google Play next week.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Diddi on April 05, 2024, 20:15:29
Quote from: Menion on April 03, 2024, 09:23:49@Diddi
thanks, got it. Check please Beta tomorrow (or Friday) or there will be for 90% new public version on Google Play next week.

Working again. Thanks. Is it possible to add more setting options to the presets? E.g.; gor me it would be nice to get the possibility to set point notification when reaching the necessary distance, to presets
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 05, 2024, 20:48:32
Quick navigation in the toolbar now works when "include navigation commands" is off.

GC Live Map now shows caches on the map again.

But: When starting Locus, map screen content still shows "nothing to display" in Maps. See screenshot.

Thanks and have a nice weekend!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on April 05, 2024, 22:36:58
@Menion: if doubling the tracks.db (a copy comes as sync.db) shouold be a common problem (see my help desk post), this would need a fix prior to publishing, I suppose.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: loudini on April 06, 2024, 08:39:17
Hallo, zumindest stürzt bei den Geocache Locus nicht mehr ab, aber ich erhalte eine Fehlermeldung in der "Live Karte".

Gruß
LOUDINI
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4mnhln1mnp4vq9157ds4x/Screenshot_20240406-083251.png?rlkey=tel87cnz4r9bpxiu3v313r4bg&dl=0)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2mnq3h7ce1hf93gdmyyuo/Screenshot_20240406-083123.png?rlkey=05d4vfgk7qfutqo7tfny505tm&dl=0
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Tapio on April 07, 2024, 19:19:02
Menion, I noticed in User saved points Locus does nor show seconds (which internally exist). Other than with trackpoints or embedded waypoints. Please display, may be interesting for analysis.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on April 08, 2024, 09:50:16
@Diddi
thanks for the tests! And "Presets" ... good old topic. We'll have to think about them more later. The current solution is usable, but has mainly these limits > a limited number of available items to cover all possible use-cases.

@Graf Geo
thanks for the tests as well, perfect.
Empty base map ... damn, why this does not happen to me  >:(. I'm sorry, but I still have no clue why this happens, because if you see the map on the screen or in the top panel, than it should be available here.

@michaelbechtold
Huge "sync.db" > this happen because of the problem we discussed on the help desk. This file contains the history of all your sync tasks! My file after all years with sync has 350kb! Delete it, it may cause no problem. And you may watch it to see if sync finally behaves correctly for you.

@loudini
error in GC live map > got it, fixed, thanks.

@Tapio
seconds > no please  :o ... anyone really interested in these values? Eh, no  :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 08, 2024, 11:16:28
No seconds please.  :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on April 08, 2024, 11:37:38
TXs, Menion. After deleting this 1.1 GB sync.db and adding a test waypoint and later deleting that one again, my sync.db is 4kB. And the operation is correctly showing "uploading" or so in the first place.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Graf Geo on April 08, 2024, 12:46:14
Quote from: Menion on April 08, 2024, 09:50:16...
@Graf Geo
Empty base map ... damn, why this does not happen to me  >:(. I'm sorry, but I still have no clue why this happens, because if you see the map on the screen or in the top panel, than it should be available here.
...

I have tested it again with different maps. "Nothing to diplay" is only displayed if an offline map was last selected - regardless of whether a LoMap or an OAM was selected. If an online map was selected last, it is listed correctly under "map screen content".
Title: Re: [APP] - version 4.22.+ ( 03/2023 )
Post by: Menion on April 08, 2024, 16:16:25
Because the current public version has too many problems, I've just published a new 4.23 version on Google Play (today for 25% of users, more later) and on Google Drive of course.

There are currently no bigger changes planned for next weeks, so I'll try to focus on fixing and fixing and ...

Thanks to all!



@Graf Geo
thanks, I know it happens only for offline maps, but I'm still unable to simulate it  :'( . Will have to rewrite this part of the code later a little more...