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Good point this I forgot. In my original route it will be 30 min longer after adding the via point. Might be because Locus calculates a stop with driver change and waiting for another vehicle to pass

[@CabrioTourer]

@CabrioTourer
problem with times on planner route: may you simply share a start/new middle/end point coordinates with me here + the routing profile you use, thanks.

It's not the same bcs time dropped instead increased but something similar. I hope it will do the job

Import all three points
Goto route planner and select routing offline brouter. Profile fast car.
In route planner make sure default is shaping point.
Plan a route from start to end. It should calculate 1:53h for 84.4 km
Click on via point and choose
--(+)--  (integrate into route)
This will not change route length (still 84.4km) but
calculated time dropped to 1:47h. This should not happen bcs route doesn't changed.

Found a bug in time calculation in route planner but don't know what are the right way to send the data to reproduce.

Today I searched for the reason why two nearly identical routes has huge difference in calculated time.
At least I found one.
A part of the route uses a street where I have alread a defined point. When I add this point as via point, the route itself doesnt change. But the time increases by 30 min. I double checked. The length doesn't changed but the time.
I'm using brouter.

If someone from the devs would like to check I can share the data.
But which way of sharing  doesn't influences the internal data? My doubt is if we export / import via gpx the effect will be gone.

I'm using cloud sync. In case this is the best way to share please send me an email with steps howTo.
(mzk@libertynet.eu)

P. S.
Can reproduce the same with my second device. Doesn't look like a temporary hiccup.

I understand the 100m rule in glitch detector.
Just an idea to make it better: If the next or prev point is an via point it will not be detected as glitch. If both are shaping points it will.
This will even detect those glitches and the way to tell Locus that it's not a glitch is simple. Just use (silent) via point.

Btw:
I'm using via points mainly to get a voice notification during navigation. I use this to report start and end of a new path I explore now. I use then the "quick point"? dialog to assess the path and make the assessment visible via different point icons.
What about a shaping point with an option to enable voice?

I played a bit with the track glitch detector. To check it I recalculated a route with another router profil.(The route in pictures was generated by BRouter offline)
I would like to ask why the one with the detected glitch was detected and why the three without were not detected. Is it bcs the recalculation isn't fully supported or is there something missing in the detection logic?
I had these two cases multiple times.

[@CabrioTourer]

@CabrioTourer
When you create a route in any other web planner, then why do you need to "recalculate" it in the app?

I'm one of the guide's for Tours which has up to 30 participants. The group is splitted in smaller ones, each is leaded by a guide like me.

The organizer of the tour plans the route with whatever tool. Kurviger in this case. He exports the gpx for the guide's upfront.

Because I find it much easier to have navigation commands just when needed, I replan the gpx with Locus.

Btw: That's just a minor usage of Locus for me.

.As you the user will be warned immediately ! These trackglitches are now nicely INDICATED by the Locus trackglitch detector tool. (Red circle)

I think I missed something important. How works the "trackglitch detector" ?

Interesting new feature to generate shaping points in planner for imported tracks.

I guess it's difficult to find a balance between to many or not enough points.

@CabrioTourer - check out how http://brouter.de/brouter-web allows total user control of balance of points - Load > Load Track as Route > Tuning > Fuzziness slider control - one side very few shaping points, other side of slider - lots of shaping points - no need for system to compromise because user decides - very nice system IMHO.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean.
Shaping points in my example were created by Locus when I imported a track. . The gpx comes from kurviger.de

The problem I see is that Locus creates the points just by guessing. Without taking the router logic into account the user will use later.
Or at least this is what I assume how it works from my findings. Correct me if I'm wrong.

So with this feauture I have no control where and how many shaping points are created.

I just have the fact that even without any change in shaping points position a recalculate will create different route with many stupid things.
Recalc is the worst case ofc.
The same will happen for a part of the route whenever I move a shaping point or later during navigation when Locus needs to recalculate partialy.


For me such a feature would be a dream. Today I always need to use the route planner manually to create a route which will follow the exact same path as defined by an external gpx.

Maybe I completely misunderstand the usage of this feauture.

Interesting new feature to generate shaping points in planner for imported tracks.

I guess it's difficult to find a balance between to many or not enough points.

So I just tried it and found some errors in my example. Just picked one area to show two issues. When you check complete track it's easy to find more.

I imported the attached gpx. Opened it in planner. Then did a recalc with brouter, car-fast.

Is there any documentation how cloud sync works?
I try to find out what is the rule if a track was change on two devices.
The "compute sync plan" doesn't help. To be true I think it's useless.
In my case it reports 185 pull deletion for tracks.
But cloud and local should be more or less the same.
Without a report which tracks are affected and why the plan is useless in my pov.

Small feedback for menion:  Thanks for the improvement of itinerary list in planner. Works perfect. 

I would like to ask for a change that's not the most important. Anyway. maybe it's easy to fix.

I do route planning in two steps. In first I put shaping points just aproximately. This makes it fast to plan.
In a second step I use itinerary view to move points exactly onto street.

When itinerary view is started screen is splited in two parts. Upper part is the map, showing selected point. Bottom the list of points. Bottom shows just the first 7 points in my case.

There are two problems when selecting point 8 - x.
The scrolling in point list makes the list fullscreen.
Selecting a point shrinks list again to bottom screen and most of the time not showing the selected one.

The result is a constant scrolling down again and again when working on point 8 until end.
I added a video to show it.

Would it be a big change to keep the split screen even while scrolling list of points and keep their position when selecting a point?
Then it will be much easier to go through the list point by point.

First a problem mentioned by others, too. Because of Quick map toogle locus should save last two maps across App exit.
Otherwise after App start the feature doesn't work.
That's anoying bec of the old unfound bug track shaping points lost I restart App after every route planner usage. Means I have non working quick map toogle often the day

Second is an old bug. Taping planned track on map has two different kinds of "detail" popup. One with 3dot menu. One without. Otherwise they looks identical for me.

I think the one witout 3dot menu comes in first track selection after App start. On second selection the other with 3dot is used. But I'm not exactly sure. See Screenshots.
I need most of the time the route planner which is inside 3dot menu.

Btw:  quich map toogle is a great feature. I use it often to switch beteen "normal" and Satellit map.

@Menion
I tried. Was able to do but steps still a bit unclear. I not only got the Navigation commands, I even lost the shaping points as we discussed a while ago. This random, not reproducable problem some other Users have too.

I'll still try.

I choosed a old track, changed it via route planner and saved.
Now the "show navigation commands on map" seems to be hardcoded in the track.
I'm not possible to get rid of it. Tried the option in settings but doesn't help.
The option works for other tracks on the map but not for this one.
Any idea how I can recover it?

(The option in settings wasn't enabled when I changed the track)