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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #120 on: August 07, 2015, 19:35:16 »
Hello All

I read this thread, but I do not know what's the strategy of automatic display activation in navigation mode is right now.

My understanding:
1. We have a setting in config file: navigation_announcements_times=x|x|x
    This is the time before a navigation instruction at which the display is also activated, if this is activated in settings display activation.
2. Then we have a timeout (e.g. 20sec) after which the display is turned off automatically.

So if I set the times for announcements 20|40|60, the display is theoretically turned on 60sec and is off at the turn, right?

But..

3. There is the setting "Set next trackpoint" under settings of guiding that has influence on screen on in navigation mode?

When I set this to 10m, will the screen be activated 10m before the turn in every case? For how long (timeout from above 20sec?). Will the screen turned off 10m after the turn?

Please help me to understand.

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2015, 06:37:55 »
3. nope, this settings is used only for guidance along track, not a navigation.

Anyway imagine you use guidance. Then everytime you get any notification (based on below "Set notification of next direction change"), then internal counter that count 20 seconds till "turn screen off" command is executed, is reset.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2015, 15:32:33 »
Hello Menion

Thanks for reply.
So in navigation mode its just the announcements defined in the config file and the display timeout of Locus, thats it, ok.

Currently I set it to 20|70 and a timeout of 10sec.

Besides that 20|70 is currently not the time Locus uses, it works well.
Around 20sec before the display turns on and you get a beep, so you can see, what to do next.
Around 5sec before the second announcement and with 10sec timeout the display is still on, when you do the turn.
Nice. Leave it like it is. Simple to use and customizable.

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #123 on: September 11, 2015, 20:15:33 »
Hello, I have suggestion to add more conditions when screen always on will activate:

- GPS fix is estabilished
- device is charged AND GPS fix is estabilished
- device is charged AND GPS is active
- device is charged AND on navigation/guiding
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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #124 on: May 22, 2016, 17:23:28 »
3. nope, this settings is used only for guidance along track, not a navigation.

Anyway imagine you use guidance. Then everytime you get any notification (based on below "Set notification of next direction change"), then internal counter that count 20 seconds till "turn screen off" command is executed, is reset.

Hope this helps.

Looking for "Set notification of next direction change" in 3.17.x.
Is it gone?
 

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #125 on: May 23, 2016, 07:45:01 »
Good day Christian, as I know, no settings was removed in latest version.
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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #126 on: May 23, 2016, 09:36:46 »
LOL
Good answer.
Ok, same question in different way.
How and where can i set the distance / time before next change / event occurs in guidance?

 

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #127 on: May 23, 2016, 09:50:12 »
Next question regarding guidance.
When Display is off and the next change in direction occurs the display is activated automatically. Fine!
But than map is displayed in any direction and after about 2-3 seconds map rotates than in the direction according to my settings in 'rotation of the map'. So i guess direction of the map is not computed during display is off.
Display off is set to 10s, map rotation needs 3s... that needs too much time.
Is there anything we can do?
 

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2016, 13:01:30 »
Hello Christian,

main key parameter for guidance that influence "when" Locus switch to next trackpoint is "Set next trackpoint" (in Guidance settings).

About rotation ... good observation. Locus filtered values from "before" screen turned off. I've fixed it now. Result is quite visible jump in rotation right after you turn screen on, but positive is, that you see it almost immediately. So "fixed", thanks.
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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2016, 14:57:39 »
Thank you.

Another question i forgot to ask:
Is planed to implement different signals for right / left / straight in guidance? I remember that we talked about in this thread...
 

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #130 on: May 27, 2016, 20:20:35 »
You are welcome.

Hmm, such feature require some specific settings for all three options, right? Can't imagine now, how to simply do it ...
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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #131 on: May 27, 2016, 21:09:20 »
Specific settings?
Like notification: beep / sound / vibration.

beep / sound can vary in three different signals / sounds if choosen....
And one option more: activate display _or_ 3 sounds as notification.

Imagine the smartphone mounted on handle bar or in pocket, display is off und you are guided by sounds. Would help to save battery.
Looks not so difficult... From my naive point of view.

Guidance becomes a very nice, easy and useful tool within Locus in cooperation with BRouter. Would like to use it with all of the potential.

Edit wants to remind of the post from last year regarding sounds.
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3318.msg36347.msg#36347
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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #132 on: May 28, 2016, 06:13:17 »
Nono I was talking, that I currently have no idea how to create a layout in Locus that allows to simply define three different sounds for these options.

Currently there is just "Set notification on direction change". But you need to allow
a) basic notification ( to still allow users define a simple single notification like now )
b) advanced notification
  1) notification on turn left
  2) notification on turn right
  3) notification on go straight

And this is quite a big complexity step. Anyway is this idea on help desk. Seems not to exists ( even under tagged "guidance" is not found http://help.locusmap.eu/search/tag%3Aguidance ). So I can't imagine if anyone except you and 0709 is interested in it.

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #133 on: May 29, 2016, 21:09:56 »
Mmmh.... not tagged as "guidance" but still "in progress" due to still missing sounds and signals - the good old thread:
http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/automatic-display-activation-guiding-with-display-and-sounds

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Re: Automatic Display activation
« Reply #134 on: June 11, 2016, 20:37:46 »
Hello Christian,

main key parameter for guidance that influence "when" Locus switch to next trackpoint is "Set next trackpoint" (in Guidance settings).
My expectations were wrong because i always looked for a setting like "set distance for notification".
Now i understand how the next notification is computed by Locus.
The distance is not calculated for the related upcoming waypoint but for the trackpoint located after the waypoint.
And... the calculated distance is beeline.

That means if the trackpoint behind the waypoint is behind a turn with >=90ยบ (in most cases) the real distance becomes smaller. Thats why i get notifications in different distances and time intervals. Sometimes its quite short for leading the peloton around the corners when the computed distance is not equal to the distance to go by bike. So the notifications are not really reliable.

Is there any chance to improve this small system a little bit?