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I made lots of track group/ folder changes on my primary phone, so on my backup tablet instead of a manual live sync, and to avoid potential duplicate tracks/ points as with past experience (twice), I decided to do a Cloud Sync > Advanced > Full Download

but now Cloud Sync screen > Tracks downloading: displays 48% for 10 minutes with no other indication. Eventually it jumped to 53% (and further big jumped), but with all that blank space on the screen it would be so nice to see a little more detail of what is actually downloading in addition to a percent that generally changes in big jumps, then crawls along so slowly. Maybe percentage could have single decimal instead of being an integer, and the progress updated with finer resolution. How about displaying

  operation {group {folder{ track | point name}}}, percentage x.y%

Of my 1000's of recorded tracks, there is no single huge track that could be 5% (53-48%) of progress, so why does the percentage jump in such big amounts?

And on completion, instead of just a glib "Congrats", maybe a button or in-place summary, to # tracks & points that have been updated/ deleted/ created plus total time # minutes. This would give the user much greater confidence in the sync operation, and great diagnostic ability in a user-friendly manner.

The complete cloud sync took 75 minutes which is much slower compared to previous full downloads during beta testing. The Locus servers are probably working a lot harder now than during beta testing, but this would be concerning if the time to sync gets slower & slower.

Possible bug: the current operation (deleting/ downloading/ uploading) sometimes doesn't reflect actual operation - in subsequent manual sync the only operation should have been "downloading tracks", but I only read "deleting points" & "deleting tracks". The final result (# tracks) was OK.

BUG: https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/24105-route-created-in-web-planner-does-not-sync-to-mobile-app - confirmed.

And size difference is not some %, but a factor 8. That is costly, because most of the Locus users are from

@michaelbechtold - but if that x8 more data is only on the Locus web server, not a user's device, then it is a win-win? The user gets better elevation accuracy when synced with online LoRouter routes and Locus can offer an even more compelling reason to use their online LoRouter & Live Sync, maybe even locked to Gold subscription?

Should this topic be locked to prevent further posts now there is official 4.0 - https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7273?

Because I'm no longer alone on these tasks, as I see in our Who we are page (finally visible our faces, nice right?

great CVs; perfect team

[@ost]

I'm already confused about who had troubles and who not. Do you also have duplicate data?
@ost
this option is currently hidden in auxiliary settings in the app settings.

@menion - at least @Viajero Perdido & myself have reported duplicate data. I discussed & sent you whole database many months ago. I have sorted mine, hopefully Viajero Perdido too, so is more a once-off issue than ongoing, but maybe some written guide for others is useful.

Sync doubles up my geocache folders

@menion - same problem as I reported? "should not happen"?

Sorry for all the posts but lots of testing, lots of changes.

Cloud sync/ LM4 crash

• Android 8.1 tablet, LM4.0.0 Gold
• Cloud sync (manual)
• dot-dot-dot > Advanced > Full download
• after a minute of progress the "normal" cloud sync screen returns too soon, expect download to take 20+ minutes
• attempt 2nd Full download > LM4 crash + have sent Android report
• success on 3rd Full download

compute plan below if that helps:

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id: 6a4b4d0c-82f4-4b03-8b2d-3155e15c3211
status: -1
start: 2 Apr., 8:51 am
end: 2 Apr., 8:51 am
changesSince: 23 Feb., 3:11 pm

plan:
  operation POINT_GROUP, pull: 0, pullDelete: 32, push: 0, pushDelete: 0
  operation TRACK_GROUP, pull: 11, pullDelete: 22, push: 0, pushDelete: 0
  operation       POINT, pull: 0, pullDelete: 278, push: 0, pushDelete: 0
  operation       TRACK, pull: 32, pullDelete: 84, push: 0, pushDelete: 0

2. Duplicate track & point groups & folders for Cloud Sync
based on your steps, no problem like this should really happen there.

@Menion - ha ha - it has happened twice, but haven't read of it happening to anyone else. I have done a lot of QA/ black-white box testing in my career.

When you start the sync on the second (and third, etc) device and some data are already on the server, the app should offer "Full download" (so discard local data and download only data from the server). Nothing like this happens to you?

no, there was no offer for "Full download"

3. Presets not backed up on device 1, or restored on device 2
Restoring backups from LM Pro may cause a mess in rare cases I believe. I'm not sure to which settings this applies, but in the LM4 are some methods that a) convert old settings to new and then b) remove old settings after that. Maybe it may be a reason for this behavior? Anyway, if this is not an easily repeatable problem, please just set your function panels again. Thanks.

yes I experienced the rare case, but 5 presets x 7 buttons, it's a lot of work, so I just copied the 5 LB files from one device to the other. Now all working I think.

but frankly, what do you expect? As long as you didn't log the new device in with any account

@slarti76 - what do you expect? I expect something less confusing - as I tried to explain in step #3 I had logged in with the same account, so Locus should display "My Subscriptions" and not "Go Premium". Anyway, @Menion is aware of the issue. Thanks.

LM4.0.0 Locus Store bug: successfully downloaded a LoMap (vector) then tap Back > Back > Back > Back > ahhh - I can't escape  from LM4 ;-)

stuck on the screen cap page
tap Back > displays Loading..." for 5s then returns to same page

This behaviour was always like this (LM3, too). Tap the "home" button in the lower left corner.

@slarti76 @Menion - may be a known problem, but was 1st time it happened to me, and even now while replying & checking again, I can simply tap the Back button with no problems; so partly why I've never needed/ observed the "home" button.

No preview available?

• some tracks in folder on the device don't have previews
• cloud sync
• LocusMap web generates previews
• single track in another folder doesn't have a preview
• LocusMap web can't generate the preview? attached
• manual generation on device (long tap on preview) works correctly

LM4.0.0 Locus Store bug: successfully downloaded a LoMap (vector) then tap Back > Back > Back > Back > ahhh - I can't escape  from LM4 ;-)

stuck on the screen cap page
tap Back > displays Loading..." for 5s then returns to same page

LM4.0.0 Cloud Sync > Compute Plan error:

• Cloud sync (manual)
• dot-dot-dot > Advanced > Compute Plan
• interesting geeky plan > tap Back
• observe error 10601 in attached screen cap

can reproduce 100%; cloud sync in general is 100% fine

Are you sure about this topic? https://help.locusmap.eu/search/tag%3Aroute+planner
In a recent post there is this one: https://help.locusmap.eu/topics/all/status/all/category/30/sort/popular/page/1

or better still, in long run, search for Category=Locus Web Planner
see https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/23762-expand-this-help-desk-system-to-handle-the-new-web-router

[Display Go Premium or My Subscription?]

@Menion some comments on installing LM4 on a 2nd device:

Display Go Premium or My Subscription?

• on 1st device - Gold subscription displayed at bottom of menu
• on 2nd device with newly installed LM4 - menu @ bottom displays Go Premium
• on 2nd device - menu > Locus Store - confirm account, exit
• on 2nd device - now menu @ bottom correctly displays My Subscription, and each further time LM4 is run

Because the new 2nd device is logged in to the same Locus World account, it should be able to immediately determine that the My Subscription menu item is displayed instead of the confusing Go Premium menu item.

Duplicate track & point groups & folders for Cloud Sync
You may vaguely recall many months ago when I used Cloud Sync on a 2nd device I got duplicate track & point groups & folders. Again on a 2nd device (different one this time) the same annoying thing has happened. My partners phone had LM3.51 installed. I installed LM4 & used same Locus World account so we have the same points & tracks. I restored the settings ZIP from my own phone. Then performed cloud sync. Now every track & point group & folder is duplicated. So I have to very carefully delete each folder then each group. I think/ hope it will be only once from past experience.

PS. now after performing a Cloud Sync on 1st device (after cleaning up device 2 & new sync), all the groups & tracks & points are duplicated on this 1st device. So I gave up trying to merge tracks from 2 phones; I exported far smaller # from device 2; did a complete Cloud Sync > Advanced > Full download on 2nd device. LM4 crashed once doing this! Just me?

Presets not backed up on device 1, or restored on device 2

• Backup of settings on device 1
• Restore of settings on device 2 - custom dashboard, function panels & buttons are correct
• tap any of preset > custom dashboard is OK but function panels are wrong, buttons are in wrong order/ not identical - appears to be old 3.51 buttons, haven't been overwritten by restore of ZIP

Confirmed - file timestamp of LB files on 2nd device are old, haven't been overwritten by restore of ZIP.