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A question on how to access the "track info" for a just saved track - sometimes the bottom icons includes the (i) button on the left side, but other times this is the navigation button. Why do the set of buttons change?

• from the main map > tap the track, the (i) button is always displayed
• select the track from the list, sometimes the (i) button is not displayed
• after I have just saved a track, the (i) button is never displayed

Some thoughts on the track editor:

1) Modify track > "to edit the track, tap it"? Isn't this second tap redundant  (1st screen cap)? Why not just enter the track editing mode once "Modify track" is tapped?

2) Can the trackpoint info panel (2nd screen cap) be moved a little away from the trackpoint?

[@tapio]

Surface & way types - this info comes from computed routes by the BRouter service. It is not possible to simply get these values to imported routes, sorry.

OK, at least now I understand, thanks. I will just trace over top of an existing track if wanting to display surface & way types. Would it be possible to take an existing track/ route with waypoints & feed this into the BRouter service - it would allow every track to consistently show surface & way types. I'm guessing too much work/ too little pay back.

@tapio
Long-click on the prev/next waypoint - I was playing with it and decided, based on the usually very low amount of waypoints in the track, to still move only one by one. Do all agree that it should be more useful to move directly to the start/end?

Nice summary by @tapio. +/- pros & cons. Although I originally suggested long tap to move direct to start/ end, I now quite like the idea of moving between waypoints.

Short tap middle buttons: +/- 1 tp
Short tap outer buttons: +/- 1 waypoint or begin/end
Long tap middle buttons: +/- 10 tp (automove)
Long tap outer buttons: +/- 1 waypoint (automove) or begin/end

But maybe larger buttons? Attached is how they look to me. The outer buttons+(i) is just a fuzzy blur. I had to take a screen cap then zoom in to see what the <+i & >+i was meaning.

@menion a question regards the Route Planner: when I plan my own route then drag up from bottom, the Elevation Profile, Way Types & Surfaces are displayed. But when I import a GPX (PS. or my own recorded track), only the Elevation Profile is displayed. Why is that? Can it be improved? A friend sent a proposed cycle route but I have no easy way to check how much is on unsealed roads. I could create my own route based on the imported GPX track but for a 200km track that is a quite long winded process. I've become too reliant on the power of the new Route Planner!

@menion - the message that 4.1.1.1 beta has expired & reverted to Locus Map FREE is only displayed for a fraction of a second. I hope sorted in < 24 hours.

upfront apologies - I haven't followed the detail of these discussions but...
instead of a simple track split, have you considered copying/ duplicating the track, then each track still retains a copy of all POI, then delete the partial track from each, but retain the POI for each?

The "progress" of the Cloud Sync progress bar jumps in very big increments. Often it will be just sit on 0%, long delay, ~70%, long delay, 100%. It could be more useful. It appears the "progress" is simply a percentage of the #"tasks" (point push, point, pull, point delete, track push, track pull, track delete") completed. It would be more attractive & better diagnostics for the bar to represent to #bytes / total estimate #bytes.

I'm sure the description underneath the bar is not always correct too. On the last sync the 1st "description" was "deleting points" then a long delay.  However when I checked activity there were no point delete operations, just 1 x track pull delete & 6 x track pushes - see attached screen cap.

When I click on it, the icon on the left hand side changes, but the information is still the same "Unbekannte Straße" (engl. Unknown road). The information never changes.

This plus the bar which already existed, steal a lot of usable space from my screen and annoys me every time I use the navigation.

@K0nsch - I've always disliked the wasted top line too, especially for "Unknown road", maybe create a help topic @ https://help.locusmap.eu for voting? Even the 2nd line from the top could become hidden via a new setting. Most other items on the map can now be hidden, and via presets, so there a precedent/ hope for further improved UX ;-)

Is it possible to create an account in the web app?

@Franky123 the account is linked to your existing LM4 app account, use the same username/ password. It therefore makes no sense to be able to create a new account.

4.1.1.1_1016_beta @menion - "insert middle point for empty tracks loaded into route planner" - I can't confirm this - test: add start point > add (simple) end point > menu > Route Stats > ">" button > Itinerary > "No waypoints in this track"?

I loosed the menu button and the lower bar...

@sbouju - off topic of Web planner / portal?

do you have different presets - maybe one has settings to bring back the menu - this is my workaround, otherwise view https://help.locusmap.eu/topic/24537-lm4-1-update-missing-menue-button#comment-97646

the little surprising combination caused by testing and not the real-world experience ... what you did is simple: the created route is really short and leads along a single road.
Result? No navigation commands = no waypoints! When you then start navigation, Locus Map detects no navigation commands and uses an internal app generator to generate commands based on the route shape! These are commands you see in the itinerary during navigation.

@Menion - OK a little too simple, so next time I will have one real-world turn. But you didn't comment on incorrect display of "unknown street" instead of the real-world "Buckland Rd"? Instead of "no waypoints" the itinerary could still display name of road. @0709 has kindly imported same simple route into the Kurviger app - compare the result - far more pleasing, see attached. And with correct road name.

4.1.1 Route Planner/ Navigation itinerary inconsistency: refer to attached test GPX file. The simple test route is along a single road "Buckland Rd" as correctly displayed on the map. But track details > dot-dot-dot > More > Itinerary > displays "No waypoints in this track" whereas Navigation along the route > Itinerary lists four (4) "unknown streets".

I would have attached a screen cap from the Route Planner but only 4 files per post allowed, but you get the idea.

• Navigation > Itinerary - 4 turn instructions are correct, but the road should be Buckland Rd
• track details > Itinerary - why is nothing listed? At very least I would have thought "Buckland Rd" is appropriate, but even better would be same list as Navigation > Itinerary instead of different information in different places

wow - beautiful location!

not a bug or feature, just an interesting user interface design tradeoff