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Select location" screen
here it could be helpful to add the "Select from screen" item.

Incomprehensible display of entries in route list. I create a route with the route planner. All shaping points show the correct address of the location. Great, I like that! (Screenshot 1)

But when I modify the route, it gets weird:

I drag a shaping point to a different position. It keeps the address of the original position. (I would expect the address to be updated.)

I add a via-point (add via-point after) and select "screen centre" under "select location". The via point appears in the list with the coordinate and not the address. This remains the same when I toggle it to a shaping point.

I then drag a small red dot between two shaping points, which creates a new shaping point. This is only named "shaping point" in the list.

By editing the route, I get a funny mixed list with shaping points with the correct address, shaping points with the wrong address, shaping/via points with coordinates and shaping points called "shaping point". This is confusing.
(Screenshot 2)

BTW: "collapsed" leaves via points always visible, only shaping points are hidden. That makes sense. 👍
(Screenshot 3)

[@Agus]

@Agus
Estimated time > this is complicated. This method was created in times when BRouter time estimates were unreliable. So this is completely independent of the router and considers only a distance and elevation of the route to compute estimates. It also inserts breaks to snack, launch etc. For a long time, I've been thinking about two options:
- completely remove this method, because LoRouter & BRouter times are good enough
- keep it and improve it to support full customization. I know this will probably be more wanted here on the forum, but it is a lot of work and as I wrote, time estimates are now much better than years before.

@Andrew Heard
Expand/collapse > inspired by the web planner + improvements by @marek to display first/last/+all via-points.

Top panel time > click to display "Estimated times" > heh, check my answer to @Agus ... I'm still not sure about it. To avoid confusion, this needs some improvement.

+ I've added "show chart" button, same as in track detail, to the UI.

[MapGooglePlay_4.21.1.5 RC_1125_beta]

General notes
There are more modifications, mainly to keep the bottom panel hidden when re-routing or restoring the previous plan. "Inverse route" added into menu + bunch of other various improvements. Thanks a lot for your opinions!

Beta version MapGooglePlay_4.21.1.5 RC_1125_beta published!

@Agus
thanks for pointing to the missing times when using BRouter. The issue was that BRouter used the old system over GPX files. I've changed it to use an identical system to the internal LoRouter. Even way types & surfaces are visible now 

@Graf Geo
Problematic red warning circles > firstly, thanks for sharing the track, it helped. I've made some changes to prevent this issue. Anyway, I'm curious if you did anything special when you planned this track. Because it has on almost every segment (between two shaping points) duplicate points at the start and at the end, that caused this issue. Can't imagine how this happened. You wrote you've used an online Route planner right?

Missing error messages > thanks a lot. It was not an intent. Fixed.

Error 10103 > this is weird because it means a problem with the internet connection. This should not happen here. I've not seen this before, so hard to help here. Are you sure you used offline! LoRouter? Even in the case of online, this does not make sense...

@freischneider
sorry, but your description is too complicated for me. Should be possible to record a short video with this issue? And agree, some generated instructions between manual segments, hmm should be doable.

@freischneider:
For me "add stop" is understandable enough, but for my sake "add after" would be even clearer.
Two options "add after" and "add before" would unnecessarily bloat the 3-point menus.

@Menion and all:
I would still find it helpful if the item in the list could somehow be linked to the point on the map. Or highlight it visually. This helps with a route with many shaping/via points. At the moment I can only see the number in the symbols and have to search for it in the list or on the map. This is a bit annoying on a longer route with many shaping/via points.

In the list, "show in map" could be added in the 3-point menu. On the map when I click on the shaping/via point in the menu add "show in list". See screenshots 1 and 2.

Another thing: In rare cases, an orange error message appears when I move a shaping point in the route on the map (to a normal route/road). The router then calculates for a long time (approx. 10 seconds) and then the message appears. (LoRouter offline)

If I go to the 3-point menu at the first shaping point. Then "Add Start Location" appears, which is ok. And "Add stop" appears
At first I thought a point would be added at the end. But a point was added after that. So the name should be changed. "Add after"
At the last shaping point there is "Add destination" here there could be an additional option: "Add before"
For the other shaping points in between then "add before" and "add after"

I think, Locus is an outdoor app and not a car navigation system. With the latter, searching for addresses would be the usual use case. With an outdoor app like Locus, navigating to a position on the map or a POI or a individual point is a common use case. I don't want to use Locus to navigate to an address in some city, but to a shelter, a crossroads or a small lake, for example...

BTW: can anyone confirm that the route recalculation is much slower in the beta? Routes with many shaping points (20 or more) feel like they take forever to recalculate, regardless of the router.
I have the latest release version 4.21.1 on my old Galaxy S7 and the same tracks are recalculated much faster.

.. When using the "Navigate to" function, search is the most logical step from my point of view. If you want to use the screen center - long click on the screen center > bottom panel Navigate to!

I do not agree. In the search I can only search for addresses and LoPoints online. Can't search in my points, contacts, coordinates etc.

Long click on the screen center works only if "tap and hold to display address" ist activated. And it ist not so precise like the cursor position. And I don't like this function activated because it often triggers accidentally and is then annoying.

[@Tapio]

@Tapio
Choose location > under this menu is quite a lot of options, so I would rather stick with the united system across the app. Anyway, what is unexpected on the "Navigate to" call?

The search is unexpected. I already know where I want to navigate to and don't need the search. Most of the time when I use "Navigate to" I want to nav from gps pos to screen center.

Wouldn't it be more logical if it came up with the screen as attached?

[MapGooglePlay_4.21.1.4_1125_beta]

New version MapGooglePlay_4.21.1.4_1125_beta published!

@balloni55
hmm 8 minutes. Probably a high number of files in the geocaching directory? I'll look at the option to display at least some progress... (or better speed it up).

@Andrew Heard
Interesting :/
Check please next Beta version with planner, where we did some smaller changes in the bottom pannels. Thanks

[@Andrew Heard]

Hi guys,
thanks for the valuable feedback!

Global problems reported here regard planner improvements
- click on items: now it will open a point detail. It center map + is easy to change it (via, shaping, coordinates, ...)

- incorrectly working "Navigate to"

- easy recalculating of sections > similar to the web, is not implemented yet. The main reason is that the clickable area is on the device too small, so it will be necessary to make the space between points bigger. I'm not sure about it for now.

- graphical issues with system status and navigation bars should be improved

- and many other improvements. Beta version today a little later...

I'll not comment on everything, cause you will see it in tomorrow's version.

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@Andrew Heard
Arrow at chart panel > hmm, yes, it should be consistent. Adding to todo, thanks.

Problem with hidding of the panel > thanks for the video. Hope, that the updated version will solve this (we updated the Google library that takes care of it).

Archived topic > there is some automation, that closes topics after 12 months of in-activity. This helps to make it clear and forces users not to re-use older topics when asking something. I've un-archived the mentioned topic. Sad news, I know ...

@michaelbechtold
sync problem > and does it change anything? You may check Sync screen > toolbar > "Last update" to see if something changed.

@balloni55
maybe it just took very long? Give it a few minutes, please. Maybe some procentual progress should be useful here right? Hmm ..

@T-mo
search suggestion, thanks, forwarded to @marek

I have now tested "navigate to".
Poi opened / navigate selected
In most cases, you want to navigate there from your location.
The destination is already entered. Very good
Now comes "choose Start location"
That was not so intuitive
First I clicked on the + // no reaction
Then in the field with the text.
Now I was in the search. But where can I choose my location (GPS). I entered the location in the search. But no result. Opened the menu, nothing either.
So I clicked back. Then I tried the 3-point menu. Then I found what I was looking for.
For newcomers, this is not a very good idea. They may give up earlier.
Suggestion 1:
When you go from the "Navigate to (new)" screen to the search, a selection is displayed in the search. "My location / Other
This takes me to the "Select location" screen

Suggestion 2:
Make the "Choose Start location" line shorter. Write in two lines in one field. Behind it are 2 individual lines with text:
1. via search
2. my location / other (my location only as a symbol, otherwise it would be too long.
There may be an arrow that splits into 2

I think suggestion 1 is better and looks better too. Of course, the field is only in the search when you come from the "navigate to" screen.

I'm wondering about the usability of a). A lot of space. Tapping an entry opens search - useful?

b) Longtap a point could toggle it to via/shaping points.

c) Showing segment details on top of the list screen makes it a bit confusing. (cannot add a second screenshot, may bw because of my browser)

[MapGooglePlay_4.21.1.3 Route Planner_1125_beta]

Hi guys,
@Tapio & @Viajero Perdido , sorry, I've not yet looked on the database and issue in "GC My lists". Will try to do it next week.

Meanwhile: the new MapGooglePlay_4.21.1.3 Route Planner_1125_beta Beta version was published. Among some other minor fixes, there is a completely new system of handling shaping/via points in the route planner that should also fully replace the old "Navigate to" screen. So who wants to try, feedback is welcome! Thanks and have a nice weekend.