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#1
Thanks a lot for the release, Menion. According to my initial tests, it looks good! No more problems with the red circles. Addresses are updated in the route planner when dragging and adding points. No more nonsensical track time values when recalculating and "overwriting" a route. Perfect.

Only the German translation of "collapse/expand" is not ideal. Perhaps "einklappen/ausklappen" or "zusammenfassen/erweitern" would be better. SCHLIESSEN is more like "close".

I can confirm the error reported by freischneider, it still occurs.
#2
@Menion: Great that some of my mentioned problems could be fixed!  :)

Quote from: freischneider on Yesterday at 12:34:26PS:
the name "select stop" is still an old name. Now "select via Point after" ?

You mean the entry in the list? There again "select via Point after" would be nonsensical. Perhaps "select location" or "select position" would be better.
#3
For the moment it's not possible. You have to copy the photo folders.

I believe this will be made possible in the future. But no idea when.
#4
Quote from: Menion on March 14, 2024, 14:39:30@Graf Geo
Problematic red warning circles > firstly, thanks for sharing the track, it helped. I've made some changes to prevent this issue. Anyway, I'm curious if you did anything special when you planned this track. Because it has on almost every segment (between two shaping points) duplicate points at the start and at the end, that caused this issue. Can't imagine how this happened. You wrote you've used an online Route planner right?

No, route was planned in the app's route planner with LoRouter offline. But I see these duplicated start/end points when I zoom in to the red circle. I created a simple test route with a few shaping points. See screenshot. In the shared track it's shaping point 5:

https://link.locusmap.app/t/z5sqv3

I did nothing special with this route. I only set 6 clicks = shaping points and saved. Then re-open it in route planner red circle appears on point no. 5.
#5
And then I would like to take another look at the nonsensical times given for the estimated track time in the route planner. I'm sorry if I'm being annoying.

I'm planning a route. The routing engine is LoRouter. The route time is displayed (halfway) reasonably, in flat regions approx. 5 km/h is assumed.
So for a 10 km route approx. 2:00:00 hs. I save the route.
See screenshot 1.

Then I open the route again and recalculate it with the route planner. After saving (overwriting), a nonsensical 5:57:26 is now displayed.

I then recalculate the route in the route planner for the 3rd time. At first, the sensible value is displayed again (1:59:09). After saving, an even more absurd value is now displayed (13:54:00). Screenshot 2.

I can repeat this as often as I like, each time the value increases drastically after saving.

It doesn't matter whether I create/calculate the route with or without navigation instructions, these fantasy values are always generated.

So the problem seems to be with saving and not with calculating.

By the way: Graphhopper does not generate a route time. The field remains empty (screenshot 3). That seems to make more sense to me. Better no value than a nonsensical value.
#6
Incomprehensible display of entries in route list. I create a route with the route planner. All shaping points show the correct address of the location. Great, I like that! (Screenshot 1)

But when I modify the route, it gets weird:

I drag a shaping point to a different position. It keeps the address of the original position. (I would expect the address to be updated.)

I add a via-point (add via-point after) and select "screen centre" under "select location". The via point appears in the list with the coordinate and not the address. This remains the same when I toggle it to a shaping point.

I then drag a small red dot between two shaping points, which creates a new shaping point. This is only named "shaping point" in the list.

By editing the route, I get a funny mixed list with shaping points with the correct address, shaping points with the wrong address, shaping/via points with coordinates and shaping points called "shaping point". This is confusing.
(Screenshot 2)

BTW: "collapsed" leaves via points always visible, only shaping points are hidden. That makes sense. 👍
(Screenshot 3)
#7
@T-mo:
Can't confirm first issue (hitting the 3-dot-menu moves all controls up). On my device the size of the window remains the same.

Second issue: confirmed, same behavior on my device.
#8
Thanks a lot for last beta version 4.21.1.5
Lot of improvements!

"Navigate to" menue:

"collapse" position now is better, maybe not optimal but hard to find a perfect place.

Still funny values in ETA after recalculating a planned route. This happens always. I fear this never will be fixed.

I'll keep on testing.
#9
Das Anlegen und Konfigurieren der Dashbords in der Tat ist alles andere als benutzerfreundlich.
Aber machbar sind deine Wünsche schon. Hintergrund, Farbe, Transparenz, Position usw. lassen sich einstellen. Ist nur umständlich. Leider.
#10
@freischneider:
For me "add stop" is understandable enough, but for my sake "add after" would be even clearer.
Two options "add after" and "add before" would unnecessarily bloat the 3-point menus.

@Menion and all:
I would still find it helpful if the item in the list could somehow be linked to the point on the map. Or highlight it visually. This helps with a route with many shaping/via points. At the moment I can only see the number in the symbols and have to search for it in the list or on the map. This is a bit annoying on a longer route with many shaping/via points.

In the list, "show in map" could be added in the 3-point menu. On the map when I click on the shaping/via point in the menu add "show in list". See screenshots 1 and 2.

Another thing: In rare cases, an orange error message appears when I move a shaping point in the route on the map (to a normal route/road). The router then calculates for a long time (approx. 10 seconds) and then the message appears. (LoRouter offline)

#11
I think, Locus is an outdoor app and not a car navigation system. With the latter, searching for addresses would be the usual use case. With an outdoor app like Locus, navigating to a position on the map or a POI or a individual point is a common use case. I don't want to use Locus to navigate to an address in some city, but to a shelter, a crossroads or a small lake, for example...

BTW: can anyone confirm that the route recalculation is much slower in the beta? Routes with many shaping points (20 or more) feel like they take forever to recalculate, regardless of the router.
I have the latest release version 4.21.1 on my old Galaxy S7 and the same tracks are recalculated much faster.
#12
Sorry for the many posts, I found another issue - don't know if it ist a bug or a feature. :)

If I set a shaping point in the route planner far away from a path/road, e.g. in the centre of a lake or field, a straight line is always created (as in "draw manually" mode).

Previously, a message always appeared that the service cannot find this point.

But if this is what you want (feature), it would be ok.
#13
Quote from: Andrew Heard on March 11, 2024, 22:14:15@Menion - as I commented previously I don't see this "Collapse" in any menu (not that I want it), but why is that? point #2 is the last point.

"Collapse" appears in the menue of the last item if you have three or more items. This is logical, because two entries cannot be collapsed.
#14
Quote from: Menion on March 11, 2024, 22:23:29.. When using the "Navigate to" function, search is the most logical step from my point of view. If you want to use the screen center - long click on the screen center > bottom panel Navigate to!

I do not agree. In the search I can only search for addresses and LoPoints online. Can't search in my points, contacts, coordinates etc.

Long click on the screen center works only if "tap and hold to display address" ist activated. And it ist not so precise like the cursor position. And I don't like this function activated because it often triggers accidentally and is then annoying.
#15
Danke euch beiden. Das mit dem gpz Dateien muss ich mir mal anschauen, klingt aber nicht nach der easy Lösung...

@tapio: danke für die Erläuterungen. Das ist mir alles bekannt. Hätte ich noch deutlicher schreiben sollen, sorry. Ich nutze Locus seit ca. 10 Jahren und habe natürlich schon einige komplette Neuinstallationen durchgeführt. Hat immer gut geklappt, nur waren immer die Anhänge weg bzw. nicht mehr verfügbar, meist, weil nach einem Handywechsel, der SD Karte oder Änderung der Verzeichnisstruktur (mal intern, mal SD, mal privater Ordner usw.) die Pfade nicht mehr stimmten.

Beispiel: Ich habe einen Punkt, das angehängte Foto ist nicht mehr verfügbar, da es unter einer früheren Installation angefügt wurde. Der alte Pfad (storage/9C33-6BBD/meineBilder2020/meinFoto1.jpg) wird noch angezeigt, er wurde aus einem früheren backup übernommen. Nur heißt die SD Karte im aktuellen Handy anders, daher gibt es nur einen Platzhalter zu sehen. Was logisch ist.

Kann ich sicher sein, dass ein jetziges Backup den aktuellen korrekten Pfad mit speichert und nach einer umgehenden Neuinstallation (auf demselben Handy, derselben SD Karte und derselben Ordnerstruktur) und Einspielen des Backups wieder das Foto anzeigt, weil in dem Fall der Pfad ja weiterhin stimmen sollte?

Nur das war meine Frage. Wie gesagt, es sind weit über 100 Punkte mit teils mehreren Anhängen, die alle wieder einzeln neu zuordnen zu müssen wäre sehr zeitaufwändig.