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Published new BRouter release 1.4.9  -  may not be in Google Play yet.
Wow - intriguing features, although I don't know what they mean. I don't see any discussion in the Google Group, not that there has been in past. So is there any blog post that discusses these features for general interest or does the budding profile author just examine the new BRouter profiles for clues? Does this imply current profiles (internal Locus BRouter and Libor's profiles) could be improved to take advantage of any of these new features?

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 23, 2017, 11:54:47 »
Good idea. I think English speaking users would understand the meaning of a "Shaping" point more readily than a "Definition" point. Also less characters. Then the art of translation.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 23, 2017, 01:59:43 »
This is, only a very small % of user's tracks will have more than one segment+profile combination.
I have frequently had to change profiles during route planning where the map is imperfect. Sometimes I
@John_Percy I also sometimes change profiles during route planning where the map is imperfect. But my gut feeling is that the average user would not be aware of this feature. Operation should be most intuitive for the common use-case but flexibility available that Locus is legendary for. If the user chooses to perform a full/ manual recalculation, each segment would be recomputed with its associated profile. This implies (if it is not already done) each route segment profile metadata needs to be saved/ restored.
 
If I delete a NOGO point how do I force the route (segment) to be recomputed? The only workaround I can see is to modify a point. Deleting a NOGO should force a recompute just like deleting or modifying any other point.

@menion
1. the route planner gets better & better. I note the via/ navigation/ definition point icons are now a little larger, easier to tell apart. For me they are the optimum size. This sort-of new concept definition point is good but I think the actual name "definition" is long and cumbersome. I can't think of a better one, maybe others can. The purpose of Via and Navigation points are fairly intuitive but a better name may help describe a Definition point?

2. In this 1st video I think the Route Planner is undoing 2 steps instead of just the last one. I add a 1st point, then a second/ final point, all good. Now I move the 1st point to another location. Still good. Now though I tap undo, and would expect the 1st point just to move back, but observe that the 2nd is also deleted.
https://youtu.be/tEmP8YMVygw

3. In this 2nd video, which is just the same route in the Route Planner, it seems Locus has forgotten the BRouter profile. The profile, unchanged from the 1st video, is set to Libor's Tertiaries, but when I add the next definition point a straight line is drawn by mistake instead of following the road.
https://youtu.be/eLLmdtoEbFc

4. Previously when I use the Route Planner for an existing out-and-back or loop recorded track the route was recomputed and I ended up with all of the loop truncated - zero length track. I notice this has now been fixed, the route is preserved; thanks. However I observe an orange msgbox "Distance between points is too short". Is this helpful?

5. Tap on a "track point" - popup menu allows change to a blue Navigation point or a green Definition point. Why no option to change to a Via point? Tap on a Definition point and it can only be changed to a blue Via point. Maybe there is a good programming reason, but for consistency why not allow any point to be converted to any other point?

6. Could either the Navigation or Via point be a color other than blue? And why are there a few smaller red track point icons in the route? I guess these are Track points but do they serve any purpose because I can tap anywhere in the track to (sometimes) edit the closest track point. The red is very hard to see against a magenta route so maybe there is a better choice of color here too?

7. In this 3rd video, I modified a simple out-and-back recorded track to force partial loop. When I tap on the track I get this popup menu of irrelevant options; and no option to choose a track point, or convert to another type of point. When the track is green (in background of popup menu), the little black direction arrows are visible inside the track, but with the magenta route color the direction arrows are impossible to see.
https://youtu.be/uKPaoQIQPG4

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 22, 2017, 01:04:49 »
Yes dashboard ... I tought it will be my evening relax
strange way of relaxing ;)

try to allow creating 1:1 same dashboard as is current statistics tab, ends on neverending list
does default/user dashboard have to be as perfect as current precisely designed/ well presented stats tab? If I had to choose between A) flexible user defined stats using current dashboard editor or B) existing fixed stats tab, I would vote for A.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 22, 2017, 00:54:04 »
@Andrew Heard:
@menion - it's a similar question I had when I change compute engine profile, and want the whole route to be recalculated. As suggested before, what about Recompute item in Tool menu? Having to workaround with tiny move is silly.
I have to think about it later. What you wants means that one tap recompute whole track with define routing settings right? This is something that probably most of apps do automatically, but since begin, Locus works differently and always allows to set each segment of route separately.
Yes I appreciate the complication with independent segments. As you say other apps already do this, and I therefore guess, is the most common use-case. This is, only a very small % of user's tracks will have more than one segment+profile combination. So if a user selects this "Recompute" menu item, Locus could recompute each segment+profile combination?

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Troubles & Questions / Re: Annoying default behavior of WP/Track "Edit"
« on: September 22, 2017, 00:46:23 »
Hi guys,
I hope you had a nice break/ rest away from Locus for a while.

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Troubles & Questions / Re: change number of top panel buttons
« on: September 21, 2017, 11:44:01 »
Here is simple improvement - http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/allow-top-function-panel-to-scroll-if-too-many-buttons-to-fit. I love the right hand side panel - you can add any number of buttons and simply drag up or down to display all those buttons. A hidden feature! So why not use similar system for top panel buttons? My topic has 8 votes.

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Troubles & Questions / Re: Annoying default behavior of WP/Track "Edit"
« on: September 13, 2017, 02:42:18 »
+1  The same thing when exporting a recorded route.
+1 here too. Of course no right behavior, just personal preference.

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Troubles & Questions / Re: Annoying default behavior of WP/Track "Edit"
« on: September 12, 2017, 00:02:06 »
@twil69 I feel exactly the same way as you. I've just never raised it in a topic so thanks. I often get caught by this behavior - you start tapping to change activity or folder or style...then the keyboard appears and you realize you are accidentally overwriting the track name by mistake, and have to Discard and start again, next time, waiting more patiently those fractions of a second until the keyboard is displayed, then exit the keyboard. However maybe your suggestion could be on the help desk so more users can vote? +1

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 08, 2017, 01:28:21 »
Anyway with Nogo points, it's a good question. When you add new existing, it's easy. I may test if new point lay on any existing path and recompute this segment automatically. But when you remove any? Recompute everything? Nonsence. I personally solve it with tiny move of one point on side of segment I need to recompute. Any idea?
@menion - it's a similar question I had when I change compute engine profile, and want the whole route to be recalculated. As suggested before, what about Recompute item in Tool menu? Having to workaround with tiny move is silly.

1) about Nogo areas. Should be ( and think about it for a while ) really useful to define radius of these areas? I'm still not sure how to create a simple UI for this and I'm not really sure if this is needed.
I love the circle displayed around the nogo - a nice touch. I use a 50m radius, but with the aid of the new 100m nogo circle the radius is less problematic. I used to have larger ones, but found I never needed them or they caused problems because blocked multiple roads by mistake.

When I add a nogo it would be nice for the undo button to be displayed - consistency. Yes, I can tap the nogo & delete.

When I add a nogo it is not always recognised. Below there are obvious alternates to the nogo but it appears no recalc is performed:

Once the nogo was not recognised/ not being bypassed, no other nogos worked either. Recalc is not performed.

I also found (only sometimes) when I tap the nogo, I get this dialog instead. Tapping the track was not useful:


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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 05, 2017, 01:06:21 »
3.25.4 on Google Play, right after that new Beta with enabled new Route planner etc.
@menion - the new Route planner is getting better and better with each beta release. Well done.

Just reading about Android's largest architectural change, there could be lots of rework for Locus with background processing - https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/android-8-0-oreo-thoroughly-reviewed/4/#h1.

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[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: BRouter Version 1.4.8
« on: September 05, 2017, 01:03:28 »
@Zarah - this would be total energy measured used over a number of days. On my screen (Settings > Power management > Battery usage) the period is over 7 days. See Locus  is 11% but Locus is NOT running at present. This is total energy. Maybe your 15% is while BRouter was downloading data? Try an app like "GSam Battery Monitor" over a shorter period of time.


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[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: BRouter Version 1.4.8
« on: September 04, 2017, 00:44:34 »
Bisher versucht: Stopp von BRouter händisch via Einstellungen bzw. Anwendungsmanager erzwingen. Hatte keine Auswirkung, BRouter läuft weiter mit 15% ... *seufz - ich bin seit Tagen dabei, mein Gepäck zu minimieren, ich will keine zweite Powerbank in die Ortliebs packen*

Kann das so sein? Soll das so sein? Gibt es irgendeinen Workaround? Hints anyone?

Merci schonmal, Zarah
@Zarah - how do you measure this 15%? For me BRouter is only running during RD5 file (routing data) download or routing calculation.

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[DE] - deutschsprachiger Forumsbereich / Re: BRouter Version 1.4.8
« on: September 04, 2017, 00:38:09 »
Hallo Arndt,
könntest du eigentlich den Download Manager von brouter App für Android dergestalt ändern, dass er im Hintergrund weiter laden kann?
Es ist ja sehr praktisch die rd5 Dateien über den Manager und die Karte runter zu laden aber das blockiert das Telefon so lange der Download währt. Geht man nämlich mit brouter in den Hintergrund (per Home-Taste oder kürzlich verwendete Apps Auswahl) oder kommt eine Benachrichtigung die über die anderen Fenster aufpoppt wird der Download sofort abgebrochen, weil der Download Manager dann beendet wird.
Dann muss man von vorne anfangen und der Download ist ja gedrosselt.
Unterm Strich wäre das auch für den Traffic sinnvoll.

Ich war bei E5_N45 gerade bei ca 90% dann kam eine Popup Nachricht (WhatsApp, wichtig) und es blieb nur eine _tmp Datei zurück, die aber leider auch nicht fortgesetzt wird.

Danke

Gruß franc
@franc - I agree that would be a great improvement but your suggestion to improve BRouter download manager may be better received in actual BR forum https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/osm-android-bikerouting rather than Locus forum.

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Versions / Re: [APP] - version 3.25.+ ( 9. 8. 2017 )
« on: September 03, 2017, 01:09:22 »
I agree with balloni55 & bucky kid.

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