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Development => Versions => Topic started by: menion on December 20, 2017, 16:51:27

Title: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 20, 2017, 16:51:27
Important links
- blog post (http://www.locusmap.eu/news-version-3-28-0) about major version
- list of news (http://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/version-3-28-20-12-2017) of public versions

Versions
20. 12. 2017 - Locus 3.28.0
23. 12. 2017 - Locus 3.28.1
13. 1. 2017 - Locus 3.28.2
17. 1. 2017 - Locus 3.28.3
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.27.+ ( 8. 11. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 20, 2017, 16:53:36
Hi guys,
even it is not directly visible, I was forced to update many components that take care about creating app, like some build tools from Google, external libraries etc, so I really hope, there won't be any serious issue in this new version. Even some "holidays" are coming, I will be next days perfectly ready to do some fixes are release new bug-fix version as soon as needed & possible.

Otherwise, wish you nice coming free (for most of) days, enjoy it!

Btw. if you did no noticed, just yesterday we published new add-on for Android Wear, so it you wear such devices, you may give it a try. If not, please do not purchase them as a gift to anyone in family, because of new Locus Map add-on. I really do not want to be responsible for another sold watches till some fair-watches will be created :D.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.27.+ ( 8. 11. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 20, 2017, 21:41:53
V 3.28.0
thanks for new version :)

routeplanning:
1. planning a route (with e.g. 2 points) >next leave screen with back button > it takes ~ 3-8 sec till planned route disapeares from map
2. no recalculation after change of "drawing mode" e.g. hike>car, also no recalculation after long click on blue mode button
3. magnifier for changing a point appears only direct after a mapzoom and if it appears, i have to release my finger for a short time to move position, see screencast
https://www.dropbox.com/s/keep4emb5d4z5n6/magnifier.mp4?dl=0

EDIT:
thread title and date ????
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.27.+ ( 8. 11. 2017 )
Post by: freischneider on December 21, 2017, 07:52:54


2. no recalculation after change of "drawing mode" e.g. hike>car, also no recalculation after long click on blue mode button


It was already like that in the old version. Since I did not have any ready-made German instructions, I have not said anything yet.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.27.+ ( 8. 11. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on December 21, 2017, 09:27:07
1.This thread's title is wrong (should be 3.28.+ (20.12.2017))
2.The new popup "Session restored - cancel" after opening the Route planner with an unfinished old session appears for like 2s - hardly enough to hit Cancel if wanted.
3.Something wrong with BRouter integration: When I try to force him to a track that BRouter doesn't recognize, Locus doesn't display an error message, but the "Wait circle" turns forever. I can't compare this exact location with old version anymore (why do I always have to update all devices at once?), so it might not be new in this version... Is this related to the Release Notes entry "Problem with Locus-based Walk routing in BRouter"?
4.I can also confirm that a planned route stays on the map for some seconds after exiting Route Planner.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.27.+ ( 8. 11. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on December 21, 2017, 09:43:21
3.Something wrong with BRouter integration: When I try to force him to a track that BRouter doesn't recognize, Locus doesn't display an error message, but the "Wait circle" turns forever. I can't compare this exact location with old version anymore (why do I always have to update all devices at once?), so it might not be new in this version... Is this related to the Release Notes entry "Problem with Locus-based Walk routing in BRouter"?
Just for confirmation: Only happens in the Walk profile (I didn't realize at first, because the icons for Walk, Hike and Climb are the same). I tried a car profile (in the mountains), there I immediately get an error message. The message is a little technical "target island detected for section 0", but I assume it's coming directly from BRouter. Anyway, seems to be something wrong with Walk profile, still.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 21, 2017, 11:48:34
@balloni55
1. I'm finally able to simulate it on older Nexus 7. Seems to be some bug in Android, where real close event of RoutePlanner is called with 10 seconds delay! Fixed by small hack, thanks
2. as @freischneider wrote, this never worked as you write. Long click on route type button works only in Beta versions for a test purpose for now
3. really weird. I'm unable to simulate it. Does this happen to you everytime you start Locus Map?

@slarti76
1. based on balloni's note, fixed ... copy&paste in action :)
2. improved, thanks
3. Walking profile was updated with new @poutnik profiles. Are you using Locus internal profiles for routing or some your own or BRouter original profiles? With latest version I see no obvious problem, so please 1. use latest Locus Map, 2. update routing data in BRouter, 3. use internal routing profiles, 4. if problem appear, write here exact start > stop coordinates, thanks.
4. viz. above
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: bezel on December 21, 2017, 15:01:26
dear menion!
thanks a lot for the new version - especially for the "track analyzer"-possibility.
But:
It would be so helpful, if you could include the possibility to show at the elevation profile the percentage of incline.
Best would be aswell, to show at each point you "click" for at the elevation profile simultaneously this point at the map shown above (in the analyzing display).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on December 21, 2017, 16:02:52
Thx for 1,2 & 4!

@slarti76
3. Walking profile was updated with new @poutnik profiles. Are you using Locus internal profiles for routing or some your own or BRouter original profiles? With latest version I see no obvious problem, so please 1. use latest Locus Map, 2. update routing data in BRouter, 3. use internal routing profiles, 4. if problem appear, write here exact start > stop coordinates, thanks.
I re-downloaded newest segment with BRouter and tried again. I'm using the Locus profiles, and I found out that it does depend on the destination: Sometimes the mentioned message is shown, sometimes it takes very long and I stop it with the X.
Here are the coordinates:
Start: N46°46.499' E008°43.293' (Switzerland, near Bristen, Cable car Terminal "Golzeren")
End: N46°47.414' E008°45.346' (Mountain hut "Windgällenhütte")
When using another end point which would be on the way (Bernetsmatt, N46°47.113' E008°44.731'), an orange error message is shown.
Again, when choosing profile Hike, Climb, Cycle, a track is calculated, when using anything with car, the error message is always shown.
Could it be a bug in BRouter (some infinite loop)?

And just a question: Could you change the icons for Walk and Climb? Right now, they are the same as "Hike", although Locus has perfectly fitting icons for all three (as used in the activities) - I think it would make sense to use these.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 21, 2017, 19:36:15
Hello menion
Quote
1. I'm finally able to simulate it on older Nexus 7. Seems to be some bug in Android, where real close event of RoutePlanner is called with 10 seconds delay! Fixed by small hack, thanks
thanks, we´ll see ;)
Quote
2. as @freischneider wrote, this never worked as you write.
i know, but my hope was one of both actions start recalculating and in Beta long click worked well! :D
Quote
3. really weird. I'm unable to simulate it. Does this happen to you everytime you start Locus Map?
no, today magnifier worked mostly as it should, but i noticed if
settings/Maps/Map control/Enable address display is on
magnifier and address label appeare at once and i have to release my finger to get controll over the magnifier :-\
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 21, 2017, 23:44:54
@slarti76
hmm you are right. I've changed routing profile for  walking because of almost identical problem last month with one user and look, even a change profile has same problems. So another try with switched "walking.brf" to "hiking.brf" as profile for Walking-SAC1-SHRP.brf ( https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/tree/master/HikeProfiles ]. Seems to work now correctly, only "walking" difficulty may be now a little bit harder, which I believe won't be recognizable difference.

And icons changed, good point, thanks.

@balloni55
hmm so problem is with "long click"? Hmm it's a problem, because I believe it is quite useful feature in route planner. Problem is probably that you click on point you wants to move and keep fngers on same place for too long without a movement. Try to just grab and immediately move with a point. Or Locus is on your device too slow so this is a problem?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: freischneider on December 22, 2017, 07:41:01
If long press does not work. Then recalculation when changing the profile (drawing mode). From hiking to car
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on December 22, 2017, 07:53:10
Support or suggest alternative at http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/allow-3-26-route-planner-to-recalculate-route-with-different-profile.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: 0709 on December 22, 2017, 08:23:05
Quote
In Beta long click worked well! :D
Sure ! ...We are for talking about the long press "Big Blue" button ? 
In beta simple to use and very usefull.  Example: Designed a track without Navigation hints.
A change ? By long click: Include the navigation hints. No problem fast and nice. (In Beta)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: uatschitchun on December 22, 2017, 18:06:55
Yes, would vote for recalculation! Even to compare results of bike vs foot profiles or car short vs car fast...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: freischneider on December 23, 2017, 11:35:01
Nice Christmas for our best programmer
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 23, 2017, 12:12:03
Thanks, nice to You too, better .. to you all ;).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Joachim Buhl on December 23, 2017, 17:49:22
Hello

I recognised a problem with navigation today. I use an exported GPX with turn instructions generated with Locus (Brouter) on my tablet on my phone S7 to navigate along it (3.28.1)
During navigation it does not jump to the next point when reaches a point. It does not "catch" the point right. In simulation mode sometimes I have to be 100% precise to catch it, in other cases it just not work. In real life you never hit the point 100%. I think the problem begins with one of the newer updates.
See this video.
https://youtu.be/jOlf7oz3HjA
Navigation is not usable.

Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: 0709 on December 23, 2017, 18:51:53
V 3.28.1.  Tested...
See more strange new problems...trouble list becomes too long.
Advise return to previous nav system. (I reinstalled to old Pro V 3.27.1)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: lor74cas on December 23, 2017, 20:22:16
Quote
In Beta long click worked well! :D
Sure ! ...We are for talking about the long press "Big Blue" button ? 
In beta simple to use and very usefull.  Example: Designed a track without Navigation hints.
A change ? By long click: Include the navigation hints. No problem fast and nice. (In Beta)
+1

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: lor74cas on December 23, 2017, 20:30:31
Good holidays to everyone.
I found this:
I created and saved a track with route planner than I opened the track statistics  and Ok I'm not the fastest running on the earth but the time showed it's a bit overestimated (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171223/3466bd4b49b2238c04c7c52c57b7154d.jpg)

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 23, 2017, 23:35:03
@Joachim Buhl
hmm oki ... I'll look on this more deeply next days (in worst case at start of new year). I may revert it to 3.27.1 system as Willy wrote, but there were also some problems, so I'll rather completely rewrite necessary code from scratch, because we will have during first new months, time to test it for next season ;).

@lor74cas
are you able to repeat this problem with latest version 3.28.1?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: lor74cas on December 24, 2017, 09:18:42
@Joachim Buhl
hmm oki ... I'll look on this more deeply next days (in worst case at start of new year). I may revert it to 3.27.1 system as Willy wrote, but there were also some problems, so I'll rather completely rewrite necessary code from scratch, because we will have during first new months, time to test it for next season ;).

@lor74cas
are you able to repeat this problem with latest version 3.28.1?
If I use map quest as route provider I have the same time on track.
With brouter the time is null so I think there is something wrong with MQ

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Joachim Buhl on December 24, 2017, 09:39:28
Hello

Where can I find the download for old versions?

Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on December 25, 2017, 04:24:52
Happy Christmas @menion & Locus team.
3.28.1 Pro: no release notes are displayed.
3.28.1 Free: release notes are displayed.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on December 25, 2017, 11:19:46
Quote
planning a route (with e.g. 2 points) >next leave screen with back button > it takes ~ 3-8 sec till planned route disapeares from map
solved thanks :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on December 27, 2017, 23:22:44
@Joachim Buhl
older verison because of strict navigation system? Here is it (https://nas.asamm.com/share.cgi?ssid=0hThafl).

@Andrew Heard
ahh, thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: T-mo on January 02, 2018, 23:03:24
*Happy New 2018*
with lots of lots of happy moments with Locus in action :) 8)

motivated..also to ask for some points after vacation and using Locus the recent time 8):
- route planner: I set up a simple A>B-route..switching the direction (A<>B) is not given nor? at least couldn't find it
- route planner: looking at the stats..are you planning adding a list with the defined via-points..I recognised that I heavily zoomed and moved the map for getting an overview of my route (or parts of it as I could only use the given map which is vector, detail-rich, but does only cover part of my route) and felt myself in effort..a list-view, re-sortable, would help IMHO
I have to admit that I once again used Locus for car-navigation..I only use Locus :-)  (except really annoying traffic-situations)
- on vacation I used OAM-vector-maps whith the elevate-theme to be able to handle any situation..while showing the map to friends, I often had to zoom-in-out-in-out + move the map to be able to get a location-name correctly displayed. Still a neccessary game otherwise you won't get it. I guess this is related to sth. MichaelBechtold mentioned http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=5916.msg49344#msg49344 (http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=5916.msg49344#msg49344)
IMHO considering some kind of priorisation would help with this - any chance ?
For some use-cases I am still using raster-maps (MOBACed) to have a better result than those with the themed vector-maps, limited in detail though.
Let's assume the vector/theme-sources are ok, hehe :D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Viajero Perdido on January 08, 2018, 23:31:07
Hi.

A few months ago I mentioned in one of these threads a problem, which you fixed immediately, thank you.  The problem was, POIs in LoMaps that had "name:en" but no "name" would render on-screen with "en" prepended, eg "en Super Coffee".  See here:  http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=5827.msg48600#msg48600 and quick response on next page.

Today I downloaded a multilingual map from OAM (meaning, V4 MapsForge, right?), my first time doing this, and see the exact same problem.  For example, the POI at http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4917137121#map=19/20.20900/-87.47264 when shown on OAM's "Middle America" multilingual map.

Would this be a Locus issue, or an OAM one?

More generally, if I'm using OAM, am I better off with the V4 version (multilingual) or V3 (quick install to Locus)?  I only chose multilingual because I assumed 4 > 3.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on January 10, 2018, 16:17:22
Hi guys,
sorry for a delay in answers! Hope you had also nice time over last weeks ;).

@T-mo
- route planner currently does not have a "Reverse route" function
- list of points: hmm some kind of "Itinerary" similar to what you see in navigation sound interesting
- problem with texts in vector maps is a long therm problem in Locus that definitely needs to be solved this year!

@Viajero Perdido
thanks, I'll look at it with @voldapet . If I remember correctly, we had to improve generation of maps itself and add small hack into them. So issue is probably fixed in LoMaps, but not in other map from different sources.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: voldapet on January 10, 2018, 17:01:32
@Viajero Perdido
This issue is not related with app but with the map. I checked the code and also the Mexico LoMaps (POI DB) itself and the issue is already fixed or improved in LoMaps (as menion wrote).  I guess that official Mapsforge V4 generator does not handle missing local names.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 11, 2018, 08:59:39
Have you tried OAM V3 maps?
I suggest you ask on the OAM forum. If this is a bug, Christian is likely to seek to correct it.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Viajero Perdido on January 11, 2018, 17:11:53
Thanks everyone.

It's a minor issue, and I can live with it.  But I thought I'd mention it, since it was me that brought up the related earlier issue with LoMaps.

I'd used V3 in all my OAM maps up till now, but thought I'd try V4, because theoretically newer is better, right?  Now I'm not so sure.  So V3 uses menion turbo-optimized-code and V4 uses off-the-shelf code?  I see V4 gives far fewer theme options, but at least the matching Elements/Elevate are there.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on January 11, 2018, 17:15:50
Yes this is correct. All V3 maps use or internal modified mapsForge version from, hmm maybe three years old. Maps based on V4 generator use in latest Locus Map version, MapsForge in version 0.9.0 . You may at least compare speeds, but I still expected that modified old version will be faster in most cases. If not, it will be positive information for me.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on January 12, 2018, 07:57:05
First of all: Happy New Year, everyone, especially Menion! :)
Now yesterday I stumbled over a rather serious bug with the track editor. Import the attached track. The start looks like in Before.png.
Now do this:
Now the whole section is jumbled up - After.png.
In step 3 it's important to move at least two points, and beginning with the first point of the track. Otherwise everything is fine.
Granted, very special situation - but with a very bad outcome...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on January 14, 2018, 00:02:08
Hi,
so after almost three weeks??? new Beta version. Uff, such long pause ...

@slarti76
thanks, I'll look at it during a week
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on January 14, 2018, 08:01:18
New Beta crashes when launched on Android 4.2 and 4.3. V 5.0 works.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 14, 2018, 08:37:42
Thank you so much, Menion.
The new overview map feature works like a charm.
http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/better-world-base-map#comment-48942
In also like the fact that only offline DB files are presented. No need to traverse file trees.
Now I need to remove the transparent top zoom layer :-)
Have a nice weekend
Michael

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 14, 2018, 10:30:32
Thank you so much, Menion.
The new overview map feature works like a charm.
Michael
How do you get the overview map to work? I get Disabled in settings and can't change the setting. I have the hidden world map from the Locus Store downloaded and working.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180114/7f69c81ddf2d10c507afb8de60f69575.jpg)

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 14, 2018, 12:12:02
Hi John,
I had a number of MBtiles maps on the Smartphone on external SD that Locus already "knew", and they simply appeared. So I did not (yet) start from scratch, but rather simply enjoyed the feature.
I tried on a second phone and the longer list of raster maps appears just below the "disabled" top line.
The maps I see are all in a SD card folder that I explicitly added to the Locus search path, like on the first phone.
BUT the raster maps that are in the "Maps" folder of the Locus main folder are NOT offered.
I'll play a bit to find a pattern.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 14, 2018, 12:22:25
I just downloaded an old SQLITE (not MBTILES) overview map from OAM and this one ended up in the "Maps" sub-folder of the Locus main path.
I now checked the other maps in this folder: they are not matching the condition to have a zoom level 1 :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on January 14, 2018, 12:50:35
thanks for new version 3.28.1.2
map backup:
- is it necessary that locus create two sub directories?? > maps/test
- wording "download" it´s an upload ;)
(https://s14.postimg.org/97d41xuvx/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/97d41xuvx/)

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/upload-fieldnote-with-attached-photo
furthermore FC :-[
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on January 14, 2018, 16:27:29
As I wrote in help desk, currently as a "world map" is considered map, with zoom levels usable for a world map. To simplify it, I've set condition to map with zoom level 1.

@john_percy
world map from Locus Store is old and little bit different system which is completely automatically used for V3 vector maps. It should be anyway in future replaced by this system.

@balloni55
- "maps/test" ... heh probably some of my tests, sorry :)
- incorrect wording, perfect
- FC in photos ... as you may see, I did not yet looked it, sorry.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on January 14, 2018, 23:43:20
New Beta crashes when launched on Android 4.2 and 4.3. V 5.0 works.
Crash on Android 4.2 here too.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 15, 2018, 10:06:35
1. I've got the world map to work with world map from OAM. Thanks for the response. I'm not sure that I prefer it to the old Vector version though.
2. Quite frequently the beta app opens to a blank white map. Zooming in or out redraws the map correctly. I think this may be when it should be displaying the world map but I'm not sure yet.


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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on January 15, 2018, 14:10:22
As I wrote in help desk, currently as a "world map" is considered map, with zoom levels usable for a world map. To simplify it, I've set condition to map with zoom level 1.

@john_percy
world map from Locus Store is old and little bit different system which is completely automatically used for V3 vector maps. It should be anyway in future replaced by this system.
Sorry, I still don't get it. So 1) the "World Map" has to be vector map, right? Then 2) Where do I get such a map? As you write, the Store World Map does not work - but can't find a hint as to where to find a fitting map.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on January 15, 2018, 14:27:59
Sorry, I still don't get it. So 1) the "World Map" has to be vector map, right? Then 2) Where do I get such a map? As you write, the Store World Map does not work - but can't find a hint as to where to find a fitting map.
Ok, forget my question, the map I tried was missing Level 1 - now it works.

However, there's one strange thing: Zooming in/out with two fingers doesn't zoom the map smoothly. If I choose the same map (it's a pixel map) as main map, it zooms smoothly in the same levels. Interestingly, when there are points displayed on the screen, their positions are zoomed smoothly, while the map is only refreshed once I lift my fingers. Looks weird...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 15, 2018, 20:01:21
1. I've got the world map to work with world map from OAM. Thanks for the response. I'm not sure that I prefer it to the old Vector version though.

Hi John,
1) the old ones you used for test are something like v 0.5 - over the year I worked a lot on the level of information provided, visibility of labels and the tooling behind. It is a companion to offline Wikipedia, for world travelers and curious people
2) still, it will be a matter of taste
3) BUT, now the users have an easy CHOICE, overlays are free for other usefule use cases, and this is the major thing Menion thankfully gave us
Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 15, 2018, 23:06:18
@Michael: thanks - are your latest versions available elsewhere?

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on January 16, 2018, 19:33:10
hello menion,
after a (long) while, i think i got it, how the offline "world map" work together with offline vector map
and it works very good indeed ;)
two behaviors should be improved
1. if i close locus with displayed world map <=ZL9 and restart locus, there is no map displayed till i zoom with +- button.
2. zooming with +- buttons work well, map and  POI´s are always displayed correct :D
but zooming with one or two fingers at ZL<=9 mapzoom isn´t visible till i release my finger and POI´s are floating
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhbd8yr4u7s2l5s/worldzoom.mp4?dl=0
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 17, 2018, 00:13:48
@Michael: thanks - are your latest versions available elsewhere?

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Hello John and all interested parties,
once the new release is complete, it will be hosted on Christian's site, like the old overview maps.

But here is a link to the ZL 8 map, which is mostly stable (only some rogue elevations in OSM in Alaska and the Philippines (in feet, without notice) keep changing the most isolated peaks there, while I correct the elevations round by round based on Max' SRTM-OSM comparison):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/04uma6jr2l1t2kb/W1-8-MBt.mbtiles?dl=0

And below is the draft of the text for the overview page (google translate, not yet redacted).

Enjoy and I'm interested in your feedback.

Cheers
Michael



<h3> January 2018: </ h3>
    <h3> Overview maps with more information </ h3>
    <p> What is common in comparison to the 2016 edition: different zoom levels are different
    Data sources used, and the file size remained in the same order of magnitude. </ P>
    <p> And also the basic format: these maps are NOT vector maps because they react too slow in low zoom levels, conventional bitmap maps
    Here are much faster - the undisputed domain of vector maps is now the detailed resolution higher
    zoom-levels. However, now only one format, MBTiles, is offered, which can be displayed equally by the essential apps. </ P>
    <p> As is usual with all cards here, there is a button for the quick installation directly on the smartphone for Locus and Oruxmaps. </ p>
    <p> What has changed? The more or less random presentation of OSM data (e.g., locations) in the rendering and map generation tools
    is simply a nuisance. Therefore, I have explicitly included the selection and control of the objects to be displayed and highlighted in the generation process of the overview maps.
But for a better end result, this presupposes a (mostly manual) editing of the OSM raw material. </ P>
<p> So far, the following information has been prepared: </ p>
        <Ul>
          <li> The main places of countries, provinces and sub-states of many countries are highlighted in 3 different colors, in English and the national language (if that name is significantly different. </ li>
          <li> The display size of city names increases in steps with the number of inhabitants (if specified in OSM, hopefully correct, otherwise an assumption is made by location category (city, town, village)). These location size categories are now also included as a "PopCat" tag in Christians OAM maps and can be used by theme for interactive selection. An adapted Elevate theme is on my list for 2018 - maybe Tobias is faster too: -) </ li>
          <li> Islands or groups of islands, especially the remote ones, are often hard to find, and there is also a remedy here. </ li>
          <li> Inspired by a discussion on the appearance or visibility of mountain peaks operated by Christian and Tobias, and with helpful data tables from Max, I have highlighted some 100 important mountain peaks </ li>
          <li> The deepest sea trenches have also been around for a few days. </ li>
        </ Ul>
    <p> The idea behind all this is to have selected information available at a glance, OFFLINE. A supplement to Wikipedia, so to speak, which also exists offline: Kiwix and Aard2, both of which I highly recommend. </ P>
    <p> In the case of settlements, information maximization here means: it is not simply selected by size, but a certain amount of settlement names is packed into a surface. For Alaska or Siberia then show up with less than 100 inhabitants - and they are important because they are the only ones - while in Japan at the same zoom level some 50,000-inhabitant city finds no place. In general, overlaps are NOT avoided, but names of places of larger category always cover smaller places. If it gets tight, this too is an indication, and 1 or 2 zoom levels further, the names of the places are completely legible. </ P>
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 17, 2018, 00:46:19
Thanks for the link and for the hard work that has gone into the maps.
Feedback on this version: ZL8 in the UK looks great. Not so good in countries with two versions of place names, and I'm not keen on the coloured outlines.
The low zooms (1, 2, 3) look good, too, but some of the intermediate levels look far too crowded for my taste.
Also, some of the Arabic place names are using an incorrect font.


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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on January 17, 2018, 10:59:01
@slarti76
uff, quite a serious problem in editor of track, thanks! Problem happen because of editing first trackpoint, hopefully solved.

@Žajdlík Josef
Crash on 4.x devices should be fixed. Some problem in Android itself.

@balloni55
Funny zoom of world map and white map after start fixed as well

Also seems that here is some confusion with world map. What is main problem ... my description how it works ( conditions to see map in list of available world maps ) or some other problem? Asking, to make it better/easier to understand.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: slarti76 on January 17, 2018, 12:30:30
@slarti76
uff, quite a serious problem in editor of track, thanks! Problem happen because of editing first trackpoint, hopefully solved.
Great, thx! It just happened to me again and I wanted to add that step 1 (deleting a part at the start) obviously wasn't important - but looks like you found that out yourself :)
I sometimes have the feeling that I'm the most extensive user of the track editor here ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: menion on January 17, 2018, 16:48:37
*** New version 3.28.1.3 ***
- probably biggest news, but not so interesting for you here :) ... alpha version of the new Locus Store. So if you use it for something, feedback is welcome.
- other news after start as usually
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on January 17, 2018, 18:44:16
Functionality on Android 4.3 restored
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on January 17, 2018, 18:51:03
This time, the application crashes when you try to start the Locus store. Tested on Android 4.3 and 5.0.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on January 17, 2018, 21:02:47
V 3.28.1.3
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Funny zoom of world map and white map after start fixed as well
confirm solved :)
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Also seems that here is some confusion with world map. What is main problem
for me to realize the mix "world map raster" stored in locus/maps, with a vector map stored in Locus maps vector :-[

(https://s17.postimg.org/6urahj60b/world.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6urahj60b/)

another small issue, also in Pro
if "rotate map" is active and i rotate map by fingers, the button is furthermore blue, other color or flashing will be better.
example see screenshot: device pointing south, map is rotated by finges ~90°, rotating button is furthermore blue but map didnt rotate till i click rotating button again

(https://s17.postimg.org/tkqfa8euj/rot.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tkqfa8euj/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 17, 2018, 21:45:44
Hi Wolfgang,
on my devices, the world overview maps are on external SD. The folder is known to Locus, and Locus offers all raster maps there (and some from other places) when I want to select an overview map. Very convenient.
Cheers
Michael
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on January 17, 2018, 23:15:26
When I first accessed new Store in 3.28.1.3 I got this error
(https://s17.postimg.org/nazr0wk8b/2018-01-18_09_14_07-.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nazr0wk8b/)
but on 2nd attempt the new store was correctly displayed.

3.28.1.3 is now working on Android 4.2.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 18, 2018, 09:45:48
Store:
1. Difficult to identify themes as opposed to other graphic elements
2. Wrench icon on Map section of Store has "Show on Map" option. I can't work out what that is supposed to do.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: voldapet on January 18, 2018, 14:43:09
@john_percy
Thank you for comments
1. I can understand ...have you tried filter under wrench icon?
2. Can I ask you what was your initial idea when you saw the "Show on map" label. What did you think about it? (I only want to better understand you and other user to avoid potential complications).
"Show in map" shows the location of items (maps) in map view. It helps to search items on the map.  (please try it in any section where are any maps). I know that this feature is useless in "Graphic" section (we know about it and it's waiting for improving)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 18, 2018, 16:30:10
@voldapet:
1. Aha. But I didn't think to try that, so it's not obvious enough for me!
2. Under Maps, there are a host of maps. Click wrench, then show on map. Show what? I wonder. One map? All maps? Which map? Legend says, Zoom in. Nothing different on zooming in. My initial idea was it might be a preview of the available map, but I had no idea how I could cycle through them.
Try the same thing with Tracks. Lots of available tracks. Which track is it meant to display? It doesn't anyway. My initial idea here was I might see the tracks centred on a map. But which track?


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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: michaelbechtold on January 18, 2018, 23:30:49
Thanks for the link and for the hard work that has gone into the maps.
Feedback on this version: ZL8 in the UK looks great. Not so good in countries with two versions of place names, and I'm not keen on the coloured outlines.
The low zooms (1, 2, 3) look good, too, but some of the intermediate levels look far too crowded for my taste.
Also, some of the Arabic place names are using an incorrect font.
Thank you for your feedback, John.
Indeed a question of taste - but also of purpose. Highlighting capitals can be helpful for travelers and other interested people. And I have been working to validate them (and it will be massive work to feed back into OSM finally, where there is quite some chaos).
Dual language areas will definitely not win a beauty contest, but again, having both languages in front of the eyes when abroad I consider benefitial, from apractical, not aesthetical point of view, though.

I am very concerned however, about your finding of a wrong arabic font. Can you pls. point to some examples ? Because I have no idea which part of the processing chain I must not trust here ... and what I need to fix.

TXs and cheers
Michael
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.28.+ ( 20. 12. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on January 19, 2018, 01:16:30
@Michael: Firstly, I must apologise over the Arabic comment. Some areas in North Africa are trilingual and I didn't recognise the Berber(?) character set.
Nonetheless, I do think some areas are hopelessly overcrowded (see below).
Picture 1: Roman, Berber, Arabic character sets
Picture 2: Overcrowded texts.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180119/0e9f4f633f2486381b612ad9bb13a12d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180119/4269e144d7f8d88888fd6385c05763a8.jpg)

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