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Development => Versions => Topic started by: menion on April 06, 2017, 11:47:16

Title: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 06, 2017, 11:47:16
22. 5. 2017 - Locus 3.23.2.5 - BETA version
- news after app starts

13. 5. 2017 - Locus 3.23.2.3 - BETA version
- news after app starts

5. 5. 2017 - Locus 3.23.2.2 - BETA version
- news after app starts

1. 5. 2017 - Locus 3.23.2 - new version
- list of news: list of news (http://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/version-3-23-0-3-4-2017)

28. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.1.8 - BETA version
- news after app starts

27. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.1.7 - BETA version
- news after app starts

25. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.1.6 - BETA version
- news after app starts

18. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.1.3 - BETA version
- news after app starts

13. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.1 - new version
- list of news: list of news (http://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/version-3-23-0-3-4-2017)

10. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.0.1 - BETA version
- news after app starts

3. 4. 2017 - Locus 3.23.0 - new version
- Blog post about major version: blog post (http://www.locusmap.eu/news-version-3-23-0)
- list of news: list of news (http://help.locusmap.eu/announcement/version-3-23-0-3-4-2017)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 06, 2017, 23:38:34
@menion could the new feature #full style editor for track recording# listed in the release notes be explained please?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 07, 2017, 10:02:35
Hi, sure.
Open settings for a single track recording profile. Previously here was option to specify width and color of visible line on a screen. Now, there is an full "style editor" for track lines, so you may define symbols, width, units and so on ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 08, 2017, 03:34:06
Wow - very nice!! I have wanted more control over the line. Thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 08, 2017, 08:20:57
Hi, here a visual bug in Locus 3.23: Main menu shows duplicated Maps command, possibly it obscures former command?

(http://i.imgur.com/ZwELUtp.png)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 08, 2017, 15:57:42
Interesting, how this happen? :).
Please simply long-click on duplicate "maps" icon and choose different option as you need.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: joeloc on April 10, 2017, 08:07:01
All window titles are upper cased now. Not only does it look ugly, it also shortens the number of visible letters of a track name considerably. Also it doesn't represent the real track name. Unintentional bug? Or did Locus UI team suddenly develop a love FOR SHOUTING :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 10, 2017, 09:28:40
:) ... I've just yesterday reduced font size a little, so it should help. And it's more love in "same everywhere". Dialogs usually had all uppercase, full screen not.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on April 11, 2017, 06:46:17
3.23.01 Beta
The new beta version of me at the scale of the map does not show the number approaches.

CZ: V nové beta verzi se mi u měřítka mapy nezobrazuje číslo přiblížení.
(https://s17.postimg.org/obihsjxi3/Screenshot_2017-04-11-06-37-37.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/obihsjxi3/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/avvh33p0b/Screenshot_2017-04-11-06-37-02.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/avvh33p0b/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: joeloc on April 11, 2017, 08:12:18
:) ... I've just yesterday reduced font size a little, so it should help. And it's more love in "same everywhere". Dialogs usually had all uppercase, full screen not.
Don't understand. So far, my tracks were windowtitled correctly, for example rmx_2009-08-08_MoabPorcupineRim. And now it changed to RMX_2009-08-08_MOABPORCUPINERIM. And that is better because... ?

But never mind... there are far bigger issues with the whole view/edit separation mess. A little uppercasing really can't destroy much :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 11, 2017, 14:43:30
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but NEW with option "Unimportant messages also on map screen" > on/off.
hello menion
where can i find this setting?

BTW, after update of new beta some buttons on sidepanel are gone e.g. "presets" and external app "screenrecorder"
and on  first use i  wonder whats going on with "map rotation" till i found changed settings in "sensors" for compass for this i found no info in release notes :-[
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 12, 2017, 03:09:18
But never mind... there are far bigger issues with the whole view/edit separation mess. A little uppercasing really can't destroy much :).
maybe a help topic @joeloc? Microsoft Visual Studio tried All Caps font in menus a few years back, looked really ugly, and was later dropped. I do agree if I type a track name in mixed case, the window title should reflect my intention. All uppercase is ugly.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 12, 2017, 07:29:19
Thanks @balloni55, I have really forget info about compass at into news. Therr is also a small issue in one moment of rotation, will be fixed.
Notification centre will be chnaged once more so do not search for settings now.
And lost buttons ... hard to help. There was no change in code ...

Guys, thanks for feedback. Just yesterday I was searching about this some information because of joelocs post and also because I myself don't like it ad much as I expected :). Since next version it will be changed and all titles will be left in original case. Thanks for push

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 12, 2017, 10:45:04
I have really forget info about compass at into news. Therr is also a small issue in one moment of rotation, will be fixed.
@menion - I've noticed for quite a while that map rotation when in "auto" mode and speed is 0km/h is very "unfiltered" and often rotates wildly. When moving after setting speed, rotation with GPS is nice and smooth. Rotation with "GPS Status" app is also nice and smooth, so can't just be my phone. Is this "small issue" of compass rotation you refer to? I have a video I can upload to demonstrate problem if necessary.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 12, 2017, 10:51:01
Hello Andrew, and we talk here about latest Beta version or about public Google Play version 3.23.0? In Beta, compass was changed once more and there happen only small issue.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 13, 2017, 01:36:20
Hi @menion - I've experienced this unfiltered rotation jitter in 3.22.0 Pro and 3.23.0 Pro. I will test with 3.23.0.1 today & report back. I have just uploaded screen recording of 3.23.0 Pro rotation jitter from 28th March to https://youtu.be/0GXeEQIii_4 (https://youtu.be/0GXeEQIii_4). I could not reproduce the issue just now while standing still. Maybe only occurs when auto mode switches from GPS back to hardware compass?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Viajero Perdido on April 13, 2017, 03:08:44
Did somebody say compass jitter?  I'd been meaning to come here and [cough!] point it out, but it seems like you already know about it.

With the current Pro non-beta (as of 6 days ago), walking to a cache (above the threshold speed) caused the compass to orient incorrectly (not to the direction of travel) and/or swing wildly, whether I had hardware compass enabled or not.  And on a cloudy day I couldn't resort to the sun indicator to make sense of it.

I'm encouraged to hear you've probably already fixed it.  :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 14, 2017, 02:25:59
Can't reproduce hardware compass jitter in 3.23.1 Pro.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 14, 2017, 08:42:03
Perfect, thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: c.s.g. on April 14, 2017, 09:44:24
What means
"chg: settings of compass (needs re-set!)"
in update notes for Locus  3.23.1 Pro?

c.s.g.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 14, 2017, 09:49:12
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What means
after update to current version
setting/sensors/Compass/is set to "Hardware compass" as default???
so it´s a info if user use normaly other settings like me ;) i allways use "Auto-change"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: c.s.g. on April 14, 2017, 09:59:12
Thank you for help. I thought of something like recalibration of the hardware compass.

c.s.g.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 16, 2017, 00:36:19
So seems that compass finally after years works fast and stable, hmmm nice :).

@gynta & @Michal , please consider update of translation of this "text" in app: http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/urls-in-point-descriptions-embraced-as-cdata-are-not-displayed-as-links#comment-39059 . I personally do not feel like a big problem.

Better should be an update of this system. Hmm what about place into exported description something like
<!-- locus_ignore:start --> ... description here ... <!-- locus_ignore:end -->
and everything between these comments should not be imported. Hmm smart ... :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 17, 2017, 21:39:34
Hello there, the new styles for planning a route I'm not too pleased with. Both straight line and computed route are too thin thus poorly visible on map. Especially the middle handle point is hardly localizable.
Could I have the old style back? Or possibility to control both styles/line weights by user preference. Thanks.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 18, 2017, 00:48:02
Hello there, the new styles for planning a route I'm not too pleased with. Both straight line and computed route are too thin thus poorly visible on map. Especially the middle handle point is hardly localizable.
Could I have the old style back? Or possibility to control both styles/line weights by user preference. Thanks.
@Bucky Kid - check the new settings, lines are much improved in my experience. Can you be more specific how you are creating the track line - A) Navigate To B) Add New Route C) BRouter? I've tried to reproduce but all seems good.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 18, 2017, 01:18:48
Hi Andrew, what new settings do you mean? I can't find any relative to route planning. I suppose the style for planned track is hard defined.
Creating track via Add new track & measurement with compute route segments... - connector lines (magenta) much thinner then with older versions, also computed track preview.  Once saved into category the track already adapts defined style for category but before save all lines are too thin and that style is nowhere customizable.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 18, 2017, 05:32:47
In the last major version it is now possible to define full style for track being recorded. That is what I was referring to but I now guess you are not referring to this feature - sorry. With Add new track & measurement I do not notice the magenta connector lines are thinner although I hardly use this method anymore now that BRouter is integrated nicely with Navigate To method.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 18, 2017, 12:02:40
Fixed, the style of created track is controlled by Settings → Maps → Points and Tracks → Track width.
For some reason it was reset to 3px. After increasing the width, built up track is well visible again.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 18, 2017, 12:15:58
*** Beta 3.23.1.3 ***
just uploaded to Google Play. Mainly bug-fixes

@Bucky Kid: please check your problem in latest Beta. If lines will still be too thin, you may modify it in settings > maps - points/tracks > track width . This affect this "width" as well.

EDIT: ah, my answer is too late. Anyway check next Beta, there will be small change that cause that 3px should be again ok :).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 18, 2017, 15:56:17
V 3.23.1.3
is there a unknown setting for width of 2-finger measure?
(https://s3.postimg.org/58uhm2n6n/two.png) (https://postimg.org/image/58uhm2n6n/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 18, 2017, 16:54:56
Nono it isn't. There is only hidden "mess" in sizes for various lines that needs to be united :). As I see, here is width incorrect, I'll fix it, thanks.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 19, 2017, 02:56:23
Fixed, the style of created track is controlled by Settings → Maps → Points and Tracks → Track width.
For some reason it was reset to 3px. After increasing the width, built up track is well visible again.
weird - mine is (correct) 10px. Hasn't changed with app releases. Glad you solved it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: ta-ka on April 19, 2017, 18:43:59
Nono it isn't. There is only hidden "mess" in sizes for various lines that needs to be united :). As I see, here is width incorrect, I'll fix it, thanks.
Please also check the width of the line from last added point to map cursor while 'Add new route & measure'.
(https://s18.postimg.org/ywlqfpbtx/line_width.png) (https://postimg.org/image/ywlqfpbtx/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 25, 2017, 11:53:48
Hi guys,
new Beta with some smaller useful news ( autozoom & autozoom and screen on/off in presets ) and some more fixes as usually.

@ta-ka: thanks, I've found another places where units were not set correctly, so let's try another round ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 25, 2017, 14:30:32
Hi menion
Quote
new Beta with some smaller useful news autozoom
my first impression
1. window "speed auto-zoom" didn´t keep always on
2. whats the map preview for? EDIT: set ZL
3. after i insert e.g. 40 > ADD i get a warn info "Speed (km/h") EDIT: its only if keyboard is visible
4. where can i set the depending ZL to set speed?
5. if all "Zooms" are deleted info says "tap button on top to create one", this button isn´t at top....
6 after click on any set "Zooms"  > FC
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 25, 2017, 15:09:46
Hello balloni, thanks for testing.
May you please give me few more information to some points? Thanks
1. do not understand
3. there should be only error in case, this speed value already exists. But this should be as a small red warning directly in edit field
5. ah, thanks, I used already existing text and did not correctly checked it's content. Improved
6. thanks, fixed
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: ta-ka on April 25, 2017, 15:30:58
@ta-ka: thanks, I've found another places where units were not set correctly, so let's try another round ...

Hi menion.
hmm... the issue is still there with 3.23.1.5. I noticed that the line width of the 'Line to GPS' is thicker as well.
It might be device specific issue because I see those thick width lines only on LG G3 valiant device with stock Kitkat (4.4.2). I didn't provide device info before. sorry for that.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 25, 2017, 15:39:26
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1. window "speed auto-zoom" didn´t keep always on
my locus setting Display/Always screen on is enabeled and set "Always"
but this window get dark after a few seconds


see behavior on 3.

(https://s12.postimg.org/ls35vm4yx/speed.png) (https://postimg.org/image/ls35vm4yx/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on April 25, 2017, 19:58:01
Hi Menione, the "auto speed" function is very nice thanks. I have encountered three smaller problems so far.
1) Click on the item in the list below (the settings you have set) will cause a fall and a restart of Locus.
2) Setting new list items is not very intuitive at first. Instead of "speed" text, it would be enough to write "speed to the map scale".
3) When I turned on GPS, the map scale did not change according to speed. Only when the speed has changed to some set value from the list has changed.

CZ:
Ahoj Menione, funkce "auto speed" je velmi pěkná, díky. Narazil jsem zatím na tři menší problémy.
1) klik na položku v seznam dole (připravená nastavení) způsobí pád a restart Locusu.
2) Nastavení nových položek seznamu není zpočátku moc intuitivní. Stačilo by k textu "rychlost" dopsat "rychlost k nastavenému měřítku mapy".
3) Když jsem zapnul gps až za jízdy, měřítko mapy se nezměnilo podle rychlosti. Až ve chvíli kdy se rychlost změnila k některé nastavené hodnotě ze seznamu, proběhla změna.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 26, 2017, 01:10:20
Tap on any preset > auto zoom ZL/speed list item or bin icon results in instant crash for me too :(
The Back button doesn't respond in preset > auto zoom dialog.
The preset > auto zoom enable|disable setting is ignored. Maybe because Back button is ignored? If I enable, exit, go back in to preset, the auto zoom is disabled again.

Also crashing in settings > Maps > Advanced > Auto zoom too, not just presets.

Just thinking more about this new configurable Auto Zoom feature as a cyclist and motorist, in it's current form where ZL level is only related to speed, it is of no help. As a cyclist I have a fairly constant speed and ZL is more closely related to distance (than speed) to next navigation turn or announcement. For example as I approach roundabout speed is constant, but I zoom in to just see exits. So I would like to see a ZL list where ZL is set according to distance or speed, or in a simpler auto-adjust mode the ZL is set/ optimized so that current position and next turn are both visible on the screen.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 26, 2017, 15:18:22
Thanks guys, I believe I've improved it and fixed few more issues. Also please be aware that speed values needs to be sorted in bottom list. If they are not because of previous version, just remove them and add new values.

@Andrew Heard: understand. I think we may leave it for now and think about it later. I can imagine one checkbox button "Smart navigation mode", that will take care about this automatically and zoom a little bit more when closer to navigation point etc.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 27, 2017, 00:52:26
Apologies for off-topic but I just followed instructions to vote for Locus Free as best app - http://www.locusmap.eu/will-you-help-us-win-a-best-app-of-the-year-competition-in-locus-homeland/?utm_source=application&utm_medium=Locus%20Map%20Free. Your instructions to English-only speakers need improvements. When I visit this site I just see long list of app icons.  I eventually found & selected Locus Free, and clicked button at bottom of page "Odestat moje hlasy". What "Souhlasím se zasíláním novinek provozovatele ankety společnosti Internet Info" says I have no idea. Click I'm Not A Robot, then click ODESLAT. If you want non-native supporters to vote you need to make it as easy as possible for them!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 27, 2017, 09:49:00
Thanks Andrew, this is more on @Michal

I have also today found one remaining issue with auto-zoom, probably as Josef wrote before. In case, zoom for speed "0 km/h" is not defined, auto-zooming won't work till you reach first defined zoom level. I've fixed it now.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on April 27, 2017, 11:26:49
It looks like in version 2.23.1.7, most of the problems of the "auto zoom" feature are picked up. I would also recommend minor editing in order list items. Top of the list by number, now the list with more items is unclear.

CZ: Vypadá to, že ve verzi 2.23.1.7 je většina problémů funkce "auto zoom" vychytána. Doporučil bych ještě drobnou úpravu v řazení seznamu položek. Nejlépa asi podle číslovky, nyní je seznam s více položkami nepřehledný.
(https://s15.postimg.org/qxy6vs053/Screenshot_11_12_AM_dub_27_2017.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qxy6vs053/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 27, 2017, 13:38:36
- my post #37 no improvement :-[
- if i click on a set "zoom value" > km/h and ZL appeare to modify :) but if the speed value of set "zoom value" is 0.0 km/h and i click on this one, only the ZL appeares but not the speed value
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 27, 2017, 13:49:45
@Žajdlík Josef: [CZ] psal jsem o tom předtím anglicky. Jakmile je řazení rychlosti špatně, nebude to určitě fungovat. Takže prosím odebrat definice a přidat je znovu. Měli by se již řadit v pořádku

@balloni55:
- issue with "always screen on", sorry, I have no solution.
- issue with missing 0.0 in "edit text" field, thanks fixed
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on April 27, 2017, 17:21:51
@Žajdlík Josef: [CZ] psal jsem o tom předtím anglicky. Jakmile je řazení rychlosti špatně, nebude to určitě fungovat. Takže prosím odebrat definice a přidat je znovu. Měli by se již řadit v pořádku
CZ: Sorry Menione, moje chyba. Měl jsem se lépe vzdělávat a nespoléhat na Google. Vyzkoušeno a je to už OK.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 27, 2017, 21:10:55
Hi menion
as i set first time inside "preset car" "speed autozoom" enabeled, it wasnt stored if i change to another preset and came back, it was always disabeled
After i opened once one "Zooms" of the default car zooms and confirmed it with "ADD" it work as expected and  setting is stored.
So it was only at first  default "virgin" using
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 28, 2017, 08:11:48
Thanks balloni, indeed enabling/disabling of this preference was not stored into presets, fixed thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 28, 2017, 10:04:01
once again 2 finger measure, the end dots are twize as big as in PRO

(https://s22.postimg.org/s42x4kbkt/Screenshot_20170428-093747.png) (https://postimg.org/image/s42x4kbkt/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on April 28, 2017, 21:37:56
Hmm it's really huge in your case. Should be only 4 times wider that line itself. Oki, next version? :)

New Beta version just uploaded on Google Play. Hope that auto-zoom will be finally working as expected.

Last month ( maybe two already ), I was totally overwhelmed by support. Increasing number of users starts to highly limit my free time on new features & improvements, as you maybe noticed as well. Because I needed to do for a while something I like, I made during a day completely new screen for weather forecast, based on old screen but with some new features. Hope you will like it and if you miss there something, let me know.

Have a nice weekend guys!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 29, 2017, 13:33:57
V3.23.1.8
Hi menion
Quote
the end dots are twize as big
now it´s ok ;)

"speed autozoom"
-after update there are default values inside presets:
cycling > 0km/h/ZL19, 20km/h ZL18, 50km/h ZL17
car >  0km/h/ZL15, 50km/h ZL17, 100km/h ZL15, 200km/h ZL14

if i create a new preset these values are taken from the basic preset i use., thats ok :)
if i modify or add a zoom, this values are used as long as i didnt change the preset to another one :) but if i change the preset and come back only the default values are there, my modifications are not stored.  :-[

my experience in use:
- if i slow down my speed (car or bike) because I'm approaching a crossroad and i  need a more detailed map view to decide my further direction, zooming in work too slow.

if i set e.g. speed autozoom for cycling to:
cycling 0km/h/ZL20, 10km/h ZL18, 30km/h ZL15
i expected that ZL´s switch  20 > 18 > 15 or vice versa, but it switch through each ZL. Is this behavior intended? :-\
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on April 29, 2017, 20:09:15
question to new "weather"
forcast for tomorrow 30.4.2017
why are the values different ? do you use different weather services?

(https://s13.postimg.org/gt5eusu4z/value.png) (https://postimg.org/image/gt5eusu4z/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Christian on April 29, 2017, 20:55:03
The bug is back in V3.23.1
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=5565.msg47079.msg#47079 (http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=5565.msg47079.msg#47079)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 30, 2017, 01:05:54
Last month ( maybe two already ), I was totally overwhelmed by support. Increasing number of users starts to highly limit my free time on new features & improvements
@menion - I hope more users & success eventually means you can employ new team member for support, and that frees you up to work on features & improvements.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on April 30, 2017, 01:35:59
Can anyone please comment how does the quality of the Locus weather information compares to the Meteo (The Weather) app? I used Meteo last year when cycle touring thru Slovenia/ Croatia/ Italy, and it was very useful. Now Locus has 3 hour intervals I'd like to uninstall Meteo if the Locus forecast is as accurate (or just as good). The screen caps below compare Locus/ Meteo data sources for 24 hour and 3 hour forecasts, and I can see there are differences. Location is Milan/ Malpensa airport where we arrive for 9 week 2000km cycle tour.

(https://s4.postimg.org/g6dszwxfd/days.png) (https://postimg.org/image/g6dszwxfd/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/vdqwn1umx/hours.png) (https://postimg.org/image/vdqwn1umx/)

I much prefer the Locus presentation. More compact and much clearer text/ graphics. Well done Menion.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on April 30, 2017, 15:08:15
Experience from today's several-hour autozoom bike testing. Functionality is perfectly fine. But I missed the opportunity to temporarily change the scale - perhaps when searching for a trip. Therefore, I would recommend a change. If you use the manual scaling with - / + buttons, the autosome should be turned off and the Autozoom OFF / ON button displayed on the screen. Clicking on it will automatically activate the autosoom and the button remains hidden.

CZ: Zkušenost z dnešního několikahodinového testování autozoomu na kole. Funkčnost je naprosto v pořádku. Hodně mi ale chyběla možnost si dočasně změnit měřítko - třeba při hledání cesty. Proto bych doporučil změnu. Pokud použiji manuální změnu měřítka tlačítky -/+ tak by se autozoom měl vypnout a na obrazovce zobrazit tlačítko Autozoom OFF/ON. Po klliknutí na něj by se autozoom znovu aktivoval a tlačítko zůstalo skryto.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 01, 2017, 07:45:32
@menion - beta 3.23.1.8 has expired :(
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 01, 2017, 08:10:33
@balloni55: hmm I'm unable to simulate any issue with presets ...

My steps:
- create new "preset"
- edit preferences of "auto-zoom" to some crazy values
- activate preset
- check menu > settings > maps - advanced > auto-zoom to see if auto-zoom settings are really loaded
- activate different, already existing preset
- check again app settings to see if preset is correctly loaded

All works for me. Please, some step-by-step method to simulate your issue, thanks.

Slow zoom-in .. it is possible, I'll look at it.

Auto-zoom over all levels ... yes, it is intent. Fluent zoom over defined values. In worst case, you may try define something like 0 kmph > zl18, 19.99 kmph > zl 18, 20 kmph > zl 15 ... etc . This should work

Weather ... yes, this new screen use different weather source "Dark Sky (https://darksky.net)".

@Christian: thanks, issue is already solved in Beta

@Andrew Heard, unfortunately all "simple" support tasks are solved by Michal, balloni :) etc. Rest are usually tasks that directly needs some changes in code. Ah, I do not complain ... too much support means problems in app, so my problem :).

On your screenshots is also older version of weather screen that is in Locus for a few years. New screen has button at top of menu > more list.

@Žajdlík Josef: thanks, I'll try to improve it somehow

And ended Beta ... damn. Anyway I still planned new version maybe today, so ...

Thanks for a feedback!!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 01, 2017, 08:17:21
@menion - Locus Pro 3.23.1 - notice in this video https://youtu.be/d9PgosBKBO8 (https://youtu.be/d9PgosBKBO8) how when the track Folder list is tapped then scrolled the list suddenly fails to repaint properly; first one half is displayed at bottom of the screen, then the second/ top half is displayed. I have never seen this occur before. With expired beta I can't confirm in that version.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 01, 2017, 08:57:05
Hmm for me it looks more like that on tap, whole list appear. When you start a scroll, it just jump from bottom to top of screen. Maybe some "full screen problem" again? Where this list appear on screen is anyway not in my control ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 01, 2017, 12:09:08
It does indeed appear related to full screen mode although I can say I've never seen any list anywhere else display this behavior. It only happens on the phone, and never before today, I can't reproduce the bug on a tablet in full screen mode.

Is 3.23.2 Pro weather using the source "Dark Sky"? Local forecast https://darksky.net/forecast/-42.8895,147.2709/si12/en is not as accurate (or anyway different) to official government forecast http://www.bom.gov.au/places/tas/hobart/. The temperature minimums are all higher by 2..4 degrees. The windspeeds are far worse - half the proper forecast which as a cyclist would be very annoying. Maybe more accurate in Europe than Australia? Meteo appears closer forecast to official forecast. Oh well.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 01, 2017, 13:40:15
Quote
All works for me. Please, some step-by-step method to simulate your issue, thanks.
ok, it work if i add/modify values under presets/profil 3-dot button/edit
EDIT:  this is only possible in "advanced mode"
but if i do modification in opened preset via  menu > settings > maps - advanced > auto-zoom it isn´t stored
so for me it lead to confusion
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 01, 2017, 13:48:00
Ah I hoped this system is already clear to all, seems not ;).

There is nothing like "active preset". Configuration defined in preset is simply loaded when you tap on "Preset". And this is all ... here all work of "Preset" system ends!! It just overwrite current app settings with settings defined in preset, dot.

So when you later change anything in Locus > settings, it will never be copied back to last used preset. Hope it is more clear now.

@Andrew Heard: Weather in public version is still old good "World Weather Online" service. "Dark Sky" is used only in new version that is available for now only in Beta version.
I can offer to use more services for various regions, but seems for example that your government service does not have any public API for developers.
I started to work on this mainly because this idea (http://"http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/wheather-information-in-tracks"), that I want to do already for many years. Unfortunately pricing of World Weather Online is quite expensive so it was not possible. With Dark Sky, it's no problem anymore.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 01, 2017, 13:57:28
Quote
Hope it is more clear now.
of course for me now ;)
i think if you set "advanced mode" as default, this problem didnt appeare to users as me :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 01, 2017, 18:16:29
T: and language


(https://s13.postimg.org/upfizi14z/image.png) (https://postimg.org/image/upfizi14z/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 02, 2017, 00:46:19
There is nothing like "active preset". Configuration defined in preset is simply loaded when you tap on "Preset". And this is all ... here all work of "Preset" system ends!! It just overwrite current app settings with settings defined in preset, dot.
@menion - I am very happy with the Preset system. I understand & accept the current mechanism. It is a great time saving feature. Regards this "active" preset discussion... from a user's point of view this concept of "active" seems intuitive and reasonable to me. So here is a very minor suggestion: when a preset is selected it becomes the active preset. This simply means the preset name is highlighted in red in the preset list, as was tried in one earlier beta version until any active preset setting and corresponding global setting later become different (because user modifies either setting) there is no longer any active preset. The advantage of this suggestion: user can quickly see from preset list which settings are active. At present I workaround this lack of active preset by having preset name linked 1:1 to text field in each dashboard.

@Andrew Heard: Weather in public version is still old good "World Weather Online" service. "Dark Sky" is used only in new version that is available for now only in Beta version.
@menion - your URL link didn't work, but I retrieved from HTML - http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/wheather-information-in-tracks (http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/wheather-information-in-tracks). At present in Locus Beta 3.23.2 the Weather function can't be selected - marked as Pro function. I'll wait for 3.23.2.1 to compare "Dark Sky". Thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: freischneider on May 02, 2017, 07:29:00
I find Preset also good but is understandable for a few. For practice and understanding, my suggestion is better.

http://help.locusmap.eu/topic/add-recording-profile-to-presets
Post 2 weeks ago: Idea is also good . An idea like Locus could work:.......

What do you think about that ?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 02, 2017, 11:07:32
@balloni55: missing translation, thanks!

@Andrew Heard: I'm still not sure about highlight of "last loaded" preset, I'll think about it, thanks for a tip. And yes, please wait on next Beta, it will be extended to end of June and new weather screen will be working there.

@freischneider : I'm well aware that some "automatic system" how presets & navigation & track recording should work, is really needed. I'm just not yet sure, how to do it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: freischneider on May 02, 2017, 14:50:47
@ Menion: Good to know so you think so. You're not sure how to program it or not be sure how the process should be.
I have a lot of good thoughts about the process and the structure.
So that it can be designed individually for everyone. And so it is flexible and can be changed quickly. Changing the settings 1. Permanent (default) 2. Only temporarily (temporary)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 03, 2017, 09:39:38
@menion - have any Locus internal BRouter profiles changed since Locus 3.19? I ask because I was going to incorporate the Locus special "meta fields" %fastprofile%, %avoid_motorways%, %avoid_toll%, %avoid_unpaved%, %is_wet% into my external BRouter profiles for similar control. I have a copy of the 10 profiles from v3.19. Thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on May 05, 2017, 12:33:25
Since the latest update, for me Locus often loses the last map used and opens to a blank (light) map.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: freischneider on May 05, 2017, 17:40:03
For me this is longer and Balloni also.

http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=5641.0
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 05, 2017, 17:59:44
Hi guys,
new Beta version just uploaded on Google Play.

@Andrew Heard: no worry, there were no changes in BRouter profiles

@john_percy: it rarely happen to me as well, if you find any key how to simulate it on request, let me know

I won't be here for a longer time ( 14 days ). I'll try to communicate over mobile , but cannot promise any changes in code etc. Hope you will have a fine time, weather seems to finally be better, so enjoy coming summer!!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 06, 2017, 01:23:29
@Andrew Heard: no worry, there were no changes in BRouter profiles
@menion - good. Thank you. Enjoy your holidays.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 06, 2017, 02:31:00
Just looking at the new Weather screen.
A) I don't think 1 decimal digit accuracy for temperature & wind speed is needed or can be justified. The data is not that accurate. My 3 other weather apps only display an integer.
B) The "Today" tab is returned back to by itself when I have selected another tab "Tomorrow" or "Next". Maybe refresh after screen on/ off? Annoying.
C) Personally I'd rather see min/ max temperature on "Today" tab rather than the current temperature
D) I'm not even sure what the temperature in big blue font on the "Tomorrow" tab even means? It's not current/ min/ max/ middle of day/ average?
E) Take a look at the Meteo app for comparison. On the first screen I can instantly see min/ max/ wind/ weather summary for today & 5 more days. The Meteo screen is slightly more compact - hours are integer without unnecessary minutes ":00". Contrast with Locus where that summary data is spread across 3 tabs "Today", "Tomorrow" & "Next". I think the Locus "Next" tab does reveal the details slightly more efficiently than switching back & forth between screens in Meteo.
F) Most important is can the data be trusted. I tried to do a quick comparison of actual data for Milano, Italy between DarkCloud & Meteo. Some figures are wildly different - wind speeds. Which to believe? I think the Locus/ DarkCloud temperatures can't be right - they seem time shifted - maximums at night time! For example Locus maximum temperatures at 23:00 whereas Meteo at more likely 14:00.

(https://s1.postimg.org/3qtd6ijrf/Screenshot_2017-05-06-09-52-10.png) (https://postimg.org/image/3qtd6ijrf/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on May 06, 2017, 19:15:54
3.23.2.2
Menu items not working:
Turn off screen lock
Offline maps / Maps language
and more...

CZ:
Nefunkční položky v menu:
Vypnout uzamčení obrazovky
Mapy offline/Jazyk mapy
a další...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 11, 2017, 07:52:53
V 3.23.2
if settings button is in this place i get green info enable/disable....... after long click
whats "experimental" ?
(https://s28.postimg.org/qtqgbt761/exp.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qtqgbt761/)

preset autozoom setting
please prevent displaying scale/ruler without ZL value on preview map
(https://s24.postimg.org/e4poehr29/image.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/e4poehr29/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 11, 2017, 19:20:27
preset:
- if there is no dashboard enabeled/selected the wording in english and german is wrong
- on my good old SGS2 with small display some text is concealed
(https://s9.postimg.org/k4i7otz3v/preset.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k4i7otz3v/)

- i load a preset with content Sensors > Compass > Auto-change,
next i add new preset but there is no Sensors/Compass :-[ if i add it manually to content of new preset it´s always set to "Hardware compass" and not to Auto-change ???

EDIT:
BTW
- the default values of "auto-zoom" for car and bike are crazy, sorry
 do you think most of basic locus users drive a Ferrari or ride downhill from Alp D'huez ??
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: gynta on May 12, 2017, 00:49:25
- if there is no dashboard enabeled/selected the wording in .... german is wrong
german -> http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=301.msg47568#new
you know it...
but i think it's clear: wrong english word  = wrong translation too
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 12, 2017, 08:58:41
@Andrew Heard: thank you very much for a precise testing of "Weather screen". I agree with most of points. I'll look at it later ...

@Žajdlík Josef: thank you, I completely missed this, fixed!

@balloni55: hehe you found my secret menu I created some time ago because of some testing I needed from one user ... and I left it there as it may be useful one time. It display new option at bottom of "settings > misc". But currently there is only an option to disable hardware acceleration for map drawing.

- problem with missing zoom level value happen also in latest Beta version? It should be improved there, hmm. How to simulate it? Scale bar should not be touchable and should always display these values.

- "Dashboard" text in presets ... "Disable" is correct. If you add Dashboard into preset, then you a) wants to display any dashboard or b) wants to "disable" current dashboard.

- too long text in "Auto-zoom", thanks, improved.

- problem with adding items to preset ... hmm good point. When you create a new preset, then after enabling certain items, they are always set to "default" values and not to current values. Let's try your suggestion to next Beta and we will see.

- default values for auto-zoom: yes, they are funny. I noticed them also during last days. Suggestions are welcome, I'll gladly improve them.
For now I have only better "car auto-zoom": 0 kph/18, 30kph/16, 50/15, 90/14. Needs more testing, but looks good. Suggestions for bike/hike based on own experience are welcome as I wrote.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: john_percy on May 12, 2017, 09:58:47
Since the latest update, for me Locus often loses the last map used and opens to a blank (light) map.

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Seems to only happen when last map used was an online raster map (cached?). The Quick Map tab shows that previous map as selected, with text in red. But it's not readily reproducible.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 12, 2017, 10:25:18
Quote
problem with missing zoom level value happen also in latest Beta version? It should be improved
in Beta its ok, sorry ???
Quote
Dashboard" text in presets ... "Disable" is correct
i think you misunderstood....
if  dashboard is disabeled user couldn´t disable it again,
so in this case it should  display "Dashboard disabled"
Quote
Suggestions for bike/hike based on own experience are welcome as I wrote.
kph/ZL > 0/20, 5/19, 8/18, 10/19, 20/16
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 13, 2017, 14:03:01
i think you misunderstood....
if  dashboard is disabeled user couldn´t disable it again,
so in this case it should  display "Dashboard disabled"
I think I understand correctly. Anyway I still look on "presets" on something like ... preset is bunch of settings/actions that will be performed in moment, I click on preset button. So in this case, I click and this click "disable current dashboard" ( if visible ) or "do nothing" ( if not visible ). That's why "Disable dashboard" still sounds better to me, as it directly say what happen when preset will be selected.
Hmm still think that "Dashboard disabled" is better? Sounds to me like definition of current state, which is not correct.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: lor74cas on May 13, 2017, 14:27:59
Hello today while recording a track I searched for some caches, during importing them the track  automatically paused. Strange behaviour.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 13, 2017, 17:03:54
new Beta version 3.23.2.3
Just a two day work with some more and less smaller improvements. Enjoy it, I have some more field/hike testing next days, so maybe meet on Live tracking ;)

@lor74cas ... hard to say how to help here. Maybe next time try to create a log right after this happen. It may contain something ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on May 13, 2017, 18:57:47
After many attempts, I set the auto zoom for more sporty cycling: speed / scale 9/15, 17/16, 25/15, 29/14, 35/13. A more detailed scale than 16 is unnecessary, it is quite suitable for the city. 15 on a regular ride, 14 to know where to go from another village and 13 just for an overview. 15 at speeds below 9 km / h is appropriate if you do not know where to go on.

The new weather does not have a very accurate current value. Personally, I do not use it in Locus; But as the best indicator of the current weather, it seems to me Weather Underground using an extensive network of private weather stations. Here, however, I can not use this network freely.

CZ: Po mnoha pokusech jsem pro sportovnější cykloturistiku nastavil auto zoom takto: rychlost/měřítko 9/15, 17/16, 25/15, 29/14, 35/13. Podrobnější měřítko než 16 je zbytečné, je docela vhodné i do města. 15 na běžnou jízdu, 14 na to abych věděl kudy pokračovat z další obce a 13 jen pro celkový přehled. 15 při rychlostech pod 9 km/hod je vhodná když nevíš kudy pokračovat dál.

Nové počasí nemá moc přesné aktuální hodnoty. Osobně ho v Locusu nepoužívám; ale jako nejlepší ukazatel aktuálního počasí se mi jeví Weather Underground využívající rozsáhlou síť soukromých meteostanic. Zde je ale možné tuto síť využívat volně nevím.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 14, 2017, 01:34:29
new Beta version 3.23.2.3
@menion - play store still shows 3.23.2.2 1/2 day after your forum post.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 14, 2017, 06:25:34
Hmm you are right, weird.

But on Google Play all seems to be correct, don't know where is the problem.

(https://s28.postimg.org/n4pn3ycyx/2017-05-14_06_21_46-_App_releases_-_Locus_Map_Fre.png) (https://postimg.org/image/n4pn3ycyx/)

So at least, here is direct link (http://nas.asamm.com:8080/share.cgi?ssid=0Na5jIU) to download APK.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 14, 2017, 10:15:00
I very much like the single tab weather screen. However it immediately crashes for this sequence:
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: passosk58 on May 14, 2017, 23:10:11
I have problems when export my activities to strava - the activity in strava have 1 hour later than reality...fix this please.

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 15, 2017, 01:07:58
A few more thoughts to save space/ make clearer/ more readable in the new weather screen - refer to attachment (Locus VS Meteo)
The weather icons eg. raining/ thunder are not so clear, whole icon set could be simplified. When displaying "today" the details always start at midnight (generally well in the past). Would it be better to display details starting from "now"? These ideas a mainly based on comparison with the Meteo app which I feel is more readable/ has a slighter better presentation.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 19, 2017, 00:04:58
Again quite significant difference in min/max temperatures between DarkSky & Meteo data sources (probably nothing can be done but just reduces confidence in DarkSky and means feature won't be used so much):
(https://s3.postimg.org/70yqjm6pr/Screenshot_2017-05-19-07-53-32.png) (https://postimg.org/image/70yqjm6pr/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: poutnikl on May 19, 2017, 14:51:52
Offtopic in LocusMap context, but good for meteo service comparison:

There is nice simple android Weather application Climendo (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.tmn.climendo_basic), that provides hourly, 6hour and 10(+) day forecasts, based on several meteo services in parallel.  One can see the average prediction, its reliability and particuler services output as well.  The differences are often quite big.

Dark sky is included for Central Europe forecasts, and as I watch it, it provides inferior predictions, comparing to other ones like  Accuweather , Wundergaound ( quite renown services ) and Foreca. There is also retrospective monthly evaluation, what services provided most reliable forecasts.

( I have a past background as an enlisted air force meteorologist, trained for that for 2 years at the university military department in late 80s , serving for 9 months at a military airfield  in 1989-90.)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 20, 2017, 02:12:54
Offtopic in LocusMap context, but good for meteo service comparison:
@poutnikl - not offtopic in that DarkSky and new weather screen is currently beta.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 21, 2017, 14:54:44
Hi guys,
@poutnikl : thanks for a tip on "Climendo". From quick compare of providers for few areas, DarkSky is not always worst.

It's a little hard decision for me. Weather in Locus Map is just a "small bonus". There is a plenty of apps focused on weather forecast and they will always be better then Locus. Prices for weather data are quite high so investing for example 300$ for Wunderground forecast (https://www.wunderground.com/weather/api/d/pricing.html) per month is just too much. DarkSky, even less precise, may allow a lot more requests, so it may be used also for forecast for recorded tracks (my near future plan).
Anyway suggestions are of course welcome here.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on May 21, 2017, 16:50:30
Maybe it's a silly idea, but try to consider whether it would always be good to show the weather only for the current and the next day. That's what most predictions do. Cyclists should be enough and who wants longer predictions, downloading the same special application.

CZ: Možná je to hloupý nápad, ale zkuste zvážit, zda by nastálo za to zobrazovat počasí pouze pro současný a následující den. To dokáže většina předpovědí slušně. Cyklistům by to mělo stačit a kdo chce delší předpovědi, stáhne si stejně speciální aplikaci.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: poutnikl on May 21, 2017, 19:47:37
Hi guys,
@poutnikl : thanks for a tip on "Climendo". From quick compare of providers for few areas, DarkSky is not always worst.

For 1-day and 5-day forecasts of weather and temperature in last about 6 months, Dark sky was never among the 4 picks of the month in past month statistics for Brno/Czech Republic. OTOH, It was 1 of the 4 monthly picks for Hobart/Tasmania, why I checked for curiosity for our fellow Andrew.

No doubts Weather deserves dedicated application, it is clear weather info is just a cheery on the LocusMap cake.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 22, 2017, 08:40:28
@Žajdlík Josef : not sure it helps with accuracy of forecast, but thanks for idea ;).

@poutnikl: hmm seems you see some comparison on Climendo that I do not see. Oki ...

Not sure how bad forecast from DarkSky is. Previously we used WorldWeatherOnline so if this WWO behave a lot better, I should create system that will use WWO for common forecast as before and use DarkSky later just for a forecast attached to recorded tracks. Libor, may you give me a link where you see comparison for these web services? Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on May 22, 2017, 09:55:59
@Menion: Based on the fact that today's predictions are generally around 90%, for tomorrow 80%, but the next few days fall below 60%. For the shorter ones, it is more likely that the forecast will be more accurate for all providers.
CZ: Vycházel jsem z toho, že úspěšnost předpovědi na dnešek bývá všeobecně okolo 90 %, na zítřek  80 %, ale další dny klesá pod 60 %. U těch krátkodobějších je tedy pravděpodobnější, že bude předpověď přesnější u všech poskytovatelů.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 22, 2017, 21:07:02
Understand. Well I've used to use Locus weather forecast only and I really do not want to give up of more days :).

Btw. new Beta 3.23.2.5 just published on Google Play.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: poutnikl on May 23, 2017, 08:39:28

@poutnikl: hmm seems you see some comparison on Climendo that I do not see. Oki ...

Not sure how bad forecast from DarkSky is. Previously we used WorldWeatherOnline so if this WWO behave a lot better, I should create system that will use WWO for common forecast as before and use DarkSky later just for a forecast attached to recorded tracks. Libor, may you give me a link where you see comparison for these web services? Thanks 

There is no link for that, or at least I am not sure if it exists on their webpage.

The 3rd icon in Climendo - like a bar chart - brings you to the Historical and accuracy tabs. Few days after a month passes, Climendo - probably on server side - performs a retrospective monthly statistical analysis of agreements of forecast and reported weather and temperature  for 1 day and 5 day forecasts.. For each of these 4 categories, the Climendo client displays a winner of the month, and percentual agrement.

Edit: You can also for each of 6-hour forcast in few next days see forcasts of each of the services. The Dark Sky and WWO regularly differ from the average more than the usual winners Accuweather, Wunderground or Foreca.

It seems Dark Sky  has for some oversea regions like Tasmania(Hobart) or Tierra del Fuego ( Ushuaia ) better results than for the Central Europe, where it is among winners often.

BTW, due statistical nature, the worst members are not always the worst. Exceptionally they can be the best, even if it is a rare thing. And vice versa.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Andrew Heard on May 23, 2017, 09:31:11
Note weather screen date is wrapping in latest beta:
(https://s24.postimg.org/4gfhq9j8h/2017-05-23_17_29_58-.png) (https://postimg.org/image/4gfhq9j8h/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 23, 2017, 12:44:27
V3.12.2.5
magnifier with two finger measure work great, thanks :)
as you wrote it´s not working correctly with map rotation,
is it possible to disable magnifier if map rotation is enabled?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 23, 2017, 18:40:40
@Andrew Heard: thanks, I've added few more pixels, hope it will be enough

@balloni55: hmm ... in the end, I've rather fix this ... and well, also disabled big magnifier in case of map rotation. So they all will now work also with enabled map rotation. Thanks for a push ;).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: Žajdlík Josef on May 24, 2017, 07:21:20
The picture with leaves in the weather does not matter much in the forecast. Is not it a mistake?

(https://s27.postimg.org/lxh5y9vpb/Kopie_souboru_Screenshot_2017-05-23-21-35-41.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lxh5y9vpb/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 24, 2017, 15:53:22
Hi menion
while answering in german board i found a small issue:
if a display a "map item" .kmz, click on "Style on map" scroll down to "Fill Style" and enable "Close path an fill with color" this fill color is only temporary set althought i have saved it.
With a track from track folder it works
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 26, 2017, 11:06:55
@Žajdlík Josef: hmm agree that "wind" is probably not the best icon, anyway DarkSky API return just an options ( https://darksky.net/dev/docs/response ) clear-day, clear-night, rain, snow, sleet, wind, fog, cloudy, partly-cloudy-day, or partly-cloudy-night as "icon". So these leaves just represent "windy" weather.

@balloni55: when I do this, I see at top popup message that "Track is not stored in database" which is same as "changes will be lost". Maybe change this text to make it more clear?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 26, 2017, 12:46:44
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Maybe change this text to make it more clear?
ok it´s a good solution if it is not possible to store the different styl in this case
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: balloni55 on May 29, 2017, 17:26:58
V3.23.2.6
magnifier two finger measure
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So they all will now work also with enabled map rotation
nearly perfect ;)
(https://s14.postimg.org/6jh9q31rx/Lupe.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6jh9q31rx/)

- is it possible to swap the magnifier right/left if line points between 300° and 60°
- if user measures with two fingers, the line and values are visible only a short time after finger release, so my idea: if two finge measure is done user hit a third finger on the display, release the two fingers the line and values are displayed as long as the third finger touch the display 8)
is this possible?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: ta-ka on May 30, 2017, 05:36:20
Hello. I've got two issues with version 3.23.2.6.
- Locus fails to get weather info with 'Bad Request code:400' if language setting is Japanese.
- Two finger measurement: On android version 4.4 and 4.0.4, magnifiers and pink circle are not shown but only pink line and measured value are shown.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 31, 2017, 07:04:14
@balloni55: hmm thanks for a tips. Everything is possible, not sure if further development here worth it to be true ...

@ta-ka: hmm thanks. DarkSky Weather service provide list of languages ( https://darksky.net/dev/docs/forecast at bottom ) and I expected that when Locus Map send not-listed language, they will choose default English. Well they rather return error. Have to check if current user language is from list, otherwise return English, thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 3.23.+ ( 3. 4. 2017 )
Post by: menion on May 31, 2017, 14:46:33
No serious news in latest version, but still some usable improvements I believe. Hope you will enjoy new 3.24 version. Thanks as usually for a very valuable feedback! Seems that time for more active lifestyle again comes ( more friendly temperatures ) in Europe, so hope you find Locus Map useful!