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Development => Android versions => Locus Classic (LM Free, LM Pro) => Topic started by: Menion on March 25, 2014, 16:20:46

Title: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 25, 2014, 16:20:46
27.5.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.8

https://plus.google.com/100542396837873535122/posts/d9fP6N1C4fh

23.5.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.7

https://plus.google.com/100542396837873535122/posts/iTQPSJ7NkQZ

15.5.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.6

https://plus.google.com/100542396837873535122/posts/6n36FqPgecp

13.5.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.5

https://plus.google.com/100542396837873535122/posts/Cq5bTKYCen9

7.5.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.4

https://plus.google.com/100542396837873535122/posts/Gg9P692mSwk

29.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.3

https://plus.google.com/100542396837873535122/posts/Q7Z7YtUHG1S

changes compare to 2.20.3
- added fully working reader for ANR+ CHIRF sensor
- added support for BT LE Speed & Cadence senzor
- added ability to upload edited 'Notes' to web
- new color buttons for main track record buttons, that match current recording state
- 'Navigation Generator' is now automatically used for tracks computed by Yours and Brouter
- added ability to disable computed navigation orders in 'Navigate to' feature
- added ability to notify add-ons on changed point over API
- improved selection of items for dashboard - united style for dashboard & track rec screen and added some more choises to Track rec panel
- fixed problem with Proximity sensor (which rarely remain enabled)
- fixed problems with crash of 'Add new wpt' function from dashboard
- improved options for log of trackable from Point details
- small fixes and improvements in new Track record panel
- created defaults track record profiles and set Locus Free to 2 profiles without ability to add/remove any
- fixed problematic notificaiton on missing dependency for ANT sensors
- and many small UI improvements/fixes

25.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.2

After a week, new version on testing.

I'll try new system for distribution. Probably easier for everyone.

So all should be writen and clear on this Google+ page - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/105669867009952671671 . If there will be any problems, feel free to write me.

18.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.1

For really brave "Locusers"

changes compare to 2.20.2
- completely new panel for Track record
- completely removed MyTracks library from Locus
- completely new settings for track record based on profiles (removed old)
- added new "Automatic track record after start" settings
- added ability to define 'Quick add point' also for track record
- added ability to switch to next point manually during Track guiding
- added "Periodic updates" to Quick switch
- added support for drop of trackable items in cache without need to post a log (from menu > log trackables)
- improved adding points to tracks
- improved 'empty' screens for Ant manager, BT manager, track chart to new system
- switched function of buttons on "CoordinatePanel"
- fixed problem with refreshing of points over Locus API (waypoints of caches that remain on screen)
- fixed problem with deleting attachments for track waypoints
- fixed some UI problems with ExtendedData of KML
- fixed problems with "Point" button on compass screen
- fixed layout of description in point screen (automatic breaks for non-html text)
- fixed problems with handling redirects in Http communication (problems with WMS or GC Offlinizer)
- fixed problem with import of *.loc files
- fixed loading of special "locus" parameters in GPX files
- fixed problem with loading of all GC waypoints at once
- fixed problem with refresh of track on main screen after "Fill altitude"
- fixed problems with refresh o Geoaching Logs (new images)
- fixed problem with refresh of counter in data screen
- a lot of other small UI improvements and fixed

8.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.2

new version available on Google Play. Enjoy it

7.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.1.8 RC

I had to do some serious changes on background of point screen due to some problems with icons and styles and finally also due to changes to back button behaviour. So please be careful if there will be any problem. As a compensation to your work, I added for those who use "Add point" during track record, small surprise ;) Thanks

changes compare to 2.20.1.7
- added support for images in cache and images for geocache logs added over API (needs new version of Geocaching4Locus - not yet published)
- new settings for automatic loading of waypoints
- fixed small problems with GC Offlinizer
- fixed problems with restoring previous zoom after app start
- improved speed when a lot of geocache waypoints with lines is visible
- small optimizations

And also testing version of Geocaching4Locus (https://www.dropbox.com/s/z5jywxdxbx3bpj7/Geocaching4Locus-1.5.4.2-rc2.apk) to check if images works correctly

6.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.1.7 RC

changes compare to 2.20.1.5
- a lot of changes on Point screen. Fixed some problems with icons, scales. Memory problems with Google Places. Back button now works completely different. If you do not do any edit, it works as cancel, othewise it automatically save changes
- improved 'Add point' button during track record
- improved icons for rotate/lock buttons on map screen (display correctly selected item)
- improvements in Locus API
- GC Offlinizer now should keep device on during work
- fixed problems with zoom levels after start of app
- fixed problems with adding url/phone/email to points
- fixed missing icons on computed navigation tracks
- fixed problem with incorrect zoom level in map overview on point screen
- fixed settings for automatic track export

4.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.1.5 RC

If anyone with 4.1.1 had problems with access to Data screen, may you confirm it works with this version? Thank you.

It's also last chance for some last fixes if anyone needs something. After this version is planned longer break, because we will be switching old Store to new and I'm sure, it will take a lot of time to test it perfectly.

changes compare to 2.20.1.3
- improved default icons for searching, long-click etc. Also added ability to ignore these icons in edit mode
- fixed problems with scale of KML styles
- fixed remaining problems with listing/images scaling in point screen
- fixed popup menu in 'Search POI' dialog
- fixed export & import GPX tracks (course, speed, times)
- fixed problems with visibility of tracks when track width was too thin
- small improvements in point screen

3.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.1.3

changes compare to 2.20.1.1

- hopefully fixed problem with "black screen" when point screen appear (on slower devices)
- fixed problems with styles for KML points (need more testing)
- added default folders for points/tracks for new users
- fixed problem with refresh of already stored Google Places
- fixed problems with visibility of keyboard and selection of text in edit mode of new point screen
- fixed problems with "Geocache" button in parent waypoints
- highly improved listing/images tab zooming for geocaches (need a lot of testing)
- fixed not-working MapQuest maps

1.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.1.1

changes compare to 2.20.1

- added ability to show/hide map overview in point screen
- added ability to define order of tabs in 'Point screen' by config.cfg
- removed vibration when tap on point
- added new page with "Web services" to main menu
- added missing logs Archive/Unarchive
- removed ability to remove temp track that is currently used for navigation
- disabled dismiss of "Edit coordinates screen" by touching outside
- added support for import of extracted PQ files correctly (handling *-wpts.gpx files)

- fixed problems with guiding & 'Point screen'
- fixed problems with missing lines to cache waypoints and rarely missing tracks during 'Add new route' function
- fixed problems with overwriting exported KMZ files
- fixed rare problems with export of tracks (tracks with 0 points)
- fixed problems with import of cache waypoints
- fixed problems when content of folder is not deleted during import even if user wanted
- fixed problem with styles of tracks after import from GPX (not used folder style)
- fixed problems with parsing a colors (mainly from GPX)
- fixed problem with not-working dashboard
- fixed icons in FileBrowser for local and dropbox places

28.3.2014 - Locus 2.20.1

new version available on Google Play. Enjoy it

26.3.2014 - Locus 2.20.0.2

Today I wanted to have half-relax day after five weeks of work on previous version. And second half invest to optimizing of screen loading (faster start). So here is result of my 14h behind PC :).

If anyone have time and wants to be sure it's OK now, please check it in this test version (Locus Free - test). If I'll have finally time, tomorrow I wants to speed up (if possible) loading of point screen and in Friday release fixed version

changes compare to 2.20.0
- fixed not working SmartMaps maps
- fixed texts of geocache logs and reduced size of icons by 25%
- removed menu button for geocache logs, so menu appear after simple tap on log
- when you edit point, name is now selected and keyboard appear (as before)
- fixed duplicate waypoints after cache update
- fixed slow import of points to folder, where a lot of points is on map
- fixed export of attachments stored in new track waypoints
- fixed problem with Locus-actions & Google Drive
- fixed problem with edit of existing field notes and it's refresh on main point tab
- impoved altitude values along 'line to gps'
- changed a little edit of coordinates - click on text show dashboard with options, long click copy coordinates to clipboard, click on target icon show direct edit

25.3.2014 - Locus 2.20.0

new version available on Google Play. Enjoy it
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: vkap on March 25, 2014, 19:04:43
It seems - became slower. Less responsive interface, slower maps rendering...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 25, 2014, 19:07:20
you mean generally whole map or just new point screen? Because whole app - it's not really possible. There were no change that should affect whole app at all on Locus side.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: vkap on March 25, 2014, 19:12:04
I meant the whole map. Ok, I will test tomorrow, not in bed,but in street ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: layio on March 25, 2014, 19:12:40
When I tap geocache icon on map, it show "working" and screen get black about 0,5 sec, and geocache listing show.

In opencaching logs, when I tap show user profile it show me geocaching.com.
Smile icons in logs are too big.

This version is unfortunately slower - geocache point not showing immediantely as before - "working" window every time, Locus get develop in wrong direction - too many new changes, but optimalization is bad...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: wvb on March 25, 2014, 19:15:40
Hi menion,

I just downloaded the new version but now I can't seem to edit my existing Field Notes.

Upon logging a cache I use "Store offline".
Then a few days later I take the time to write a correct Field Note with some extra text.

If I try this now I see my existing Field Note, when I click on it I get the choices again where I choose "Store offline" but instead of being able to edit my Field Note, Locus seems to add 1 to my Found counter and start a new Field Note.

If I go back, changes are luckily cancelled.

I think it's a bug as I have been doing it like this for quite some time :-)

Thanks for looking into it!

Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 25, 2014, 19:55:15
@vkap: thanks. If you find any place/feature where is slowness really visible compare to older versions, tell me and I'll gladly check it

@layio: we work on this screen more then four week and almost whole time were available testing versions. So now it's too late to say "It's a wrong way". I'm aware a "small delay" till new screen appear. On second side, previously you had to tap twice till you get to geoaching screen. So in the end, this is even faster.

- opencaching users - thanks, I'll check it

- about size of smileys - may you post a screenshot? Thanks

@wvb: you are absolutely right. Sorry for this. I'll collect as much issues as possible during next days and probably in friday I create version where will be all these problems fixed ;). Thank you for a precise report!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 25, 2014, 23:56:01
I have just downloaded the new version and i really love the new point screen. I do a lot of geocaching with locus and saving one click now to open the cache info is really great.
I do have some issues though:
I agree with the others, that the loading time is quite high. For example - when entering a waypoint from within the point screen and hitting the back button it takes 3-4 seconds until i get the response... By then i have pressed back a second time and end up back on my map...
In the German version there is a display problem when clicking the menu button in the point screen. Menu Button 4 reads: GC Offlinizer <b><small><font color> (the html tags are being displayed)
Improvements:
When you click the "hint" button in a geocache and there is no hint you get no feedback. I´d prefer a message saying "no hint available", otherwise i can´t be sure that my click was registered.
The hint button changes position (in Waypoints it´s the right button, in logs it´s on the left) - Can´t it always stay in the same position to avoid misclicking?
And one thing that i find important: When creating a waypoint - why do i have to click the menu button to cancel? I actually had to search fo a while to find that and even though i now know where it is i keep searching for it and don´t find it intuitive at all. When creating a track there is now a bin symbol at the top - why not include that in waypoint creation too? Or at least pop up a prompt when pressing the back button that asks wether or not i want to save the waypoint.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 26, 2014, 10:55:38
@eldron:
Glad you like new design. Me too ;). "Loading time" is my task on next days. I already spend on it almost a day with analyzing what takes most time and followed optimizations. Problem is that screens are too complex and it takes a while till android create whole layout. I'll try to improve it of course

GC Offlinizer text - thanks fixed

Hint - fixed, thanks. Problem is that button is disabled when there is no hint, but seems that this button looks exactly same as when it's enabled.

And "Cancel" button - I sometimes follow existing solutions from Google. In this case, it's solution from original A4.4 Contacts app, where whole Edit/Save/Cancel system is almost same.

Screen where you edit track is also planned to rewrite in same way as this point screen and expect, that in the end, "Delete" button will be hidden in same menu as "Cancel" in this point screen.

@All:

suggest to watch and discuss in separate topics created by other users on Help desk, about specific issues

- slow loading time: http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/opening-time-of-geocache-listing-in-2200
- size of icons in logs: http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/icon-size-in-locus-2200
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 26, 2014, 10:56:53
my first impression of V 2.20 :D 8) :-*
QuoteTrack recording and waypoints
nice new feature, it works inside locus, but in exported kml/kmz the photo is missing :(

Sometime i get this popup while opening locus, although i haven´t changed anything in directory. After confirmation locus work well
(http://s28.postimg.org/cn2y3zuyx/Verzeichniss.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cn2y3zuyx/)

Why are settings sometime changed after update to a new version :o ??
this time "settings/geocache/automatic waypoint loading" was changed to "enable" i have standart "disable"

sorry for asking again old open points:
Quote7. scale photo - no improvement, same behavior ???
in V2.19 it worked well :D
Quotein Pro the "Titel" is marked and i can overwrite directly the date
    in Test the "Name " is not marked, this is not handy
no answer, no change?  :-[
QuoteIf i open a Cache, the minimap is not visible, i do not know it is intended. For me it will be better/more logical, to start on top of the page
no answer, no change? :-[
Quotepartly solved, 5 logs ok :)
if i set 10 logs only 5 logs are loaded furthermore
after playing a while i have to say it works ;) but not as from me expected :P
For example: in  PQ´s always 5 last logs are implemented, so e.g. the oldest of the selected cache has date "1.3.2014"
in the meantime 3 new log are written and so after update i see 8 logs althought my setting is "25"
I set it to 25 logs in hope to get more information from older logs, but no log with date before 1.3.2014 is loaded

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 26, 2014, 11:28:46
Quote from: menion on March 26, 2014, 10:55:38Problem is that screens are too complex and it takes a while till android create whole layout. I'll try to improve it of course
I told you few day ago.
Why we need the "point on minimap" preview ? 1/5 of my screen is used for what i don't need.
yes! it looks nice - but for...?
I prefer a  "one tap = show me edit screen" - as i wrote.
Look at edit screen - all data viewable - and editable

(I have forgotten your veto. sorry for that ;) )
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 26, 2014, 12:06:40
Quote from: layio on March 25, 2014, 19:12:40
When I tap geocache icon on map, it show "working" and screen get black about 0,5 sec, and geocache listing show.
http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/opening-time-of-geocache-listing-in-2200

Quote from: layio on March 25, 2014, 19:12:40
In opencaching logs, when I tap show user profile it show me geocaching.com.
Is there a way, to generate link to user profile also in OpenCaching? Because as I see, you need some users ID which is probably not in log itself. Like here http://www.opencaching.cz/viewprofile.php?userid=10346

Quote from: layio on March 25, 2014, 19:12:40
Smile icons in logs are too big.
read my answer http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/icon-size-in-locus-2200#comment-9521

Quote from: layio on March 25, 2014, 19:12:40
This version is unfortunately slower - geocache point not showing immediantely as before - "working" window every time, Locus get develop in wrong direction - too many new changes, but optimalization is bad...
Thanks for opinion
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Čelda on March 26, 2014, 12:21:49
Hallo, I have just upgraded to Locus 2.20.0 too.
I think it is too soon to evaluate the new waypoint handling. However, I use Locus mainly for geocaching and what I really like even now is the fact that there is one click less to reach the cache details :-)
Once you have decided to rebuild this I dare to have an additional wish:
When geocaching, the most frequent activity is definitely starting/stopping guiding to a geocache displayed on the map. Is there a way to spare one more click to start guiding ? I know - when I open the geocache waypoint, it is right down in the menu. However, when walking, this is rather clumsy.
Ideas which come to my mind:
- Either a new waypoint-related context menu: Could a long touch on a wpt in the map be used ? But this idea is not too good when there are more wpts displayed near to one another.
- Or an extra direct button for guiding in the wpt window. But where ? And why should this particular button be preferred when it is highly demanded by geocachers but used seldom by the others ? Could there be a customizable button/toolbar for an instant access to a wpt-related function (e.g. guiding, compass, navigation, street view  ...) in the wpt dialog ?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Bucky Kid on March 26, 2014, 12:22:48
I'm trying new version and can't quite confirm the overall slowdown against previous versions. Using only 2 core phone and everything is more or less as fast as before. However the new points screen has the small noticeable delay (Working...). I reported this already with test version. I'm aware new point screen holds more controls and needs more resources to load etc. but I see here a place for improving (work with more waypoints should be as smooth as possible). Anyway nice work and thanks for all new features.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 26, 2014, 12:30:14
@balloni: impressions are nice :)

- screen at start - weird, should not be visible if there are no changes of course. Anyway just from screenshot, I'm unable why this happen. Have to wait till something like this happen to me also

- changed settings - there are two possibilities. Bug in Android or accident with your fingers. Locus itself do not change these settings, trust me. So I more think that during playing in settings, you changed this checkbox by accident

- scale photo - I still have no solution. Because previous versions which worked for you, caused a lot troubles on more other devices. Current solution works for them, but do not work for you and I see no logic between it for now. So I have to with Peter test it and create some universal solution.

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Quotein Pro the "Titel" is marked and i can overwrite directly the date
    in Test the "Name " is not marked, this is not handy
sorry, don't understand

- minimap - yes it's indent. In case of caches, tab is scrolled to see cache details as first

- logs: sorry, also do not understand. I do not know from where you load your cache with logs, but if in PocketQuery or over Geoaching4Locus is available just five logs, Locus cannot display more. Number do not say how much logs will be visible. As you may see in description, it limits logs to max amount, thanks all.

@gynta:
It looks nice, it's main point. It should be also usable if you check some points for example after searching etc. But major reason is nice look. But maps is not major slowdown of this screen. It took around 100ms. Almost half a second took construction of whole screen.

And "Edit in screen" - yes, it's my final decision. Nor you or joeloc may convince me, sorry. I'm sometimes checking some apps from Google as I wrote above and "Contacts" are very inspiring in many details, so I created system same as is there.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 26, 2014, 13:15:55
Quote from: menion on March 26, 2014, 10:55:38
Screen where you edit track is also planned to rewrite in same way as this point screen and expect, that in the end, "Delete" button will be hidden in same menu as "Cancel" in this point screen.
Please rethink this decision. You yourself wrote that you like things to be obvious. For me it was not at all obvious where to find the delete button for the waypoint and i think i am not the only one. Why would i have the save button at the top, but i have to click on the menu button to find the delete button? And it also looks a bit strange to have just one option when clicking on the menu. To me the bin symbol at the top makes much more sense.
How about a popup windows asking wether you want to save or delete the track/waypoint when you hit the back button?

I agree with Celda that a quicker way to use the guidance-to-point function for geocaches would be great, as it´s 3 clicks at the moment: clicking on the cache (waiting for it to open), clicking the guidance button at the bottom and then another click to activate the guidance.
Especially when doing bigger rounds of traditioncal caches a one-click option without having to open the cache description would be great.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on March 26, 2014, 13:41:08
I second to a faster guiding, I use that a lot while geocaching.
As menion has asked to include new ideas in help.locus site, I have created a ticket.
If you feel that it is important please vote for it there.
http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/quicker-way-to-use-the-guidance-to-point (http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/quicker-way-to-use-the-guidance-to-point)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 26, 2014, 13:58:14
Quotechanged settings - there are two possibilities. Bug in Android or accident with your fingers. Locus itself do not change these settings, trust me. So I more think that during playing in settings, you changed this checkbox by accident
truly no accident! At first start of new version all waypoints were visible ;)so perhaps a bug in android :-[
Quotescale photo -So I have to with Peter test it and create some universal solution
i´ll wait and see.
Quotein Pro the "Titel" is marked and i can overwrite directly the date
        in Test the "Name " is not marked, this is not handy

sorry, don't understand
in left screenshot you see "pro V1.19" the filename "Date/Time" is blue underlaid/marked and with one click you overwrite it
in right screenshot you see "Test/similar V2.20"the filename "Date/Time" you have to mark it complicated to overwright, see small video
http://postimg.org/image/shf00dv1v/
Quotelogs: sorry, also do not understand.  As you may see in description, it limits logs to max amount
Sorry, now i understand, in german translation "stored" is missing and so i misinterpreted it
QuoteTrack recording and waypoints

nice new feature, it works inside locus, but in exported kml/kmz the photo is missing
is this intended or a bug?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on March 26, 2014, 16:43:54
loading tiles from Personal mapsets (sqlite) seems quite slower and sometimes you must zoom in and out and move around, then wait, then zoom/move, etc., until the map appears. I think 2.20 has affected the map speed to slow it. I am sorry to say this  because Locus is so wonderful!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 26, 2014, 17:06:45
@čelda: as szebenyib wrote - check and comment post on Help Desk. it's good to have one idea on one place. Thanks

@BuckyKid: thanks, appreciate it

@eldron: did you tried contacts app in your device? Hope you have the same as me :). Anyway how often you need "Cancel" button and how often "Save"? I think, that at least 80% of your taps are on Save and not Cancel, maybe more. So why is this a problem, mainly when you know that cancel is in menu? It's even more useful, that you cannot tap on cancel directly. Thanks to this, there is no need for confirmation of this "Cancel" action and all is a lot faster and I hope also more user friendly.

@szebenyib: thanks for posted topic, perfect!

@balloni: and all interested in "Images" tab - http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/spoiler_size#comment-9537

About changed settings - it's really weird. I can at least tell you for sure, that Locus do not do nothing like this.

Selected name - ah finally I understand, sorry I missed this screenshot before. I'll fix it, thanks.

Photos in export of track waypoints - bug, thanks

@Bob Denny: are you sure, there were no change like you moved map from internal memory to card, changed SD card or something like this? Speed of other maps remain same (vector maps for example)?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on March 26, 2014, 18:58:25
I'm sure. I will look for other things that may have caused this.

edit
Where did Miscellaneous/Directory with Maps go? I cannot find where to control those additional personal map directories now! It has been a while and the latest docs show it in Miscellaneous.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 26, 2014, 20:49:07
Thanks for your complete answer :)
QuoteSelected name - ah finally I understand, sorry I missed this screenshot before. I'll fix it, thanks.
perfect :D please don´t forget to improve also "Poiphoto, Trackpoi, add WPT"....in same way
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 26, 2014, 21:44:22
@bob: http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200160051-How-to-add-external-folder-with-maps

@balloni: you may check it in first post if this is better ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on March 26, 2014, 21:48:13
Got it, thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on March 26, 2014, 21:58:21
Menion
I updated my SG SIII to version 2.20 pro last night, first thing I noticed was I lost access to all my cache databases. But a phone reboot brought them back.
Today whilst on a route around a reservoir I noticed something strange. When guiding , if I moved my map away from the current position and then pressed the   " Show current location"  button the following happened.
1.The screen would flash to a map view I didn't recognise. But it was so quick to get a bearing on.
2. The screen filled with the caches visible at the zoom level I had previous selected and a bearing line.But with no map features and a cross hatch background.
3. The screen would flash and everything would be as expected.

The whole thing was over in 2-3 seconds
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 26, 2014, 22:16:35
Hi Menion
"Add attachment" symbol disappeared after "discard".
see clip...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 26, 2014, 22:53:08
I have found another display bug that occurs in the point screen of points created whilst recording a track. Some of the text is missing in portrait mode, in landscape i can see it all. See attached screenshot.
I think in future i will use this feature more often, as it now allows to easily attach pictures to points on a track. Will the pictures also show if i export the tracks and look at them on the computer? And is it possible to change the folder in which those pictures are stored? They just end up in the normal camera folder, which is not very practical.
How comes that it takes so long to open those attached pictures? I know i don´t have a high end phone, but 5-8 seconds to open a picture is way too much.
The new version is great, but even though i have only used it a little bit to check out the new features, it has already crashed 3 times. Whereas before i hardly ever experienced any crashes within locus. If this keeps happening i´ll pay more attention as to what i was doing when the crash happened and send the error protocoll.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 27, 2014, 08:17:20
Quoteballoni: you may check it in first post if this is better
POI, Trackpoi and WPT work well :D
Photopoi the name is selected but the keyboard didn´t open automatic :-[

EDIT:
Save Track is not selected
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 27, 2014, 09:47:37
Quotefixed texts of geocache logs and reduced size of icons by 25%
size of icons (smily)is not reduced???

(http://s29.postimg.org/736yiwrkj/Smily.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/736yiwrkj/)
Quotechanged a little edit of coordinates


(http://s9.postimg.org/3lk8q51rf/dunkel.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3lk8q51rf/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 27, 2014, 11:04:56
QuotePhotos in export of track waypoints - bug,
solved :D

during trackrecording i create a poi, changing to attachementtab the keyboard is furthermore visible and cover the instruction info

(http://s21.postimg.org/xc31jgp6b/attach.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xc31jgp6b/)

at the end i stop this track and "save" it, after that this window apeares


(http://s29.postimg.org/sy9hj62s3/Track_speichern.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sy9hj62s3/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 27, 2014, 11:43:28
@CaptKaos2: sorry, but this happen just once? I'm not sure I can imagive what exactly happen to you, but if it repeats more offten, we should try to solve it

@gynta: thanks

@eldron: thanks. Problem with track details have to be in Locus quite long. Anyway this whole screen (generated description) change during next few months, so please wait a while. I won't fix this issue now due to planned changes.

Picture took with Locus should be stored in Locus/data/media . And since next version, photos attached to waypoints created as a part of track recording, should be exported together with track.

Why they open so slow? Do not know. I expect that when you tap on any attached image in Locus, it then opens image in any external image viewer, so it is not a problem in Locus

3 crashes - sorry :/. You are on Android 2.X? In current locus are some problems with memory and also this new screen is more memory intensive then previous versions. I'll try to improve it to next version. Otherwise if you are on A 4.X, I should use log with crash - http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200014832-How-to-create-debug-log

@balloni : ah icons, I set them on smaller size, but list resize them back :). Because menu button is removed now (in every line on right side), I think that icons may remain ;)

texts: I do not have control over these texts, weird they are black. Sorry, do not know how to fix this, because this context menu is created automatically by Android

keyboard: it's neverending problems. Don't understand why handling of keyboard from developer point of view is so complicated. I'll look at it. And last - don't you have enabled "Automatic export" for track recording function?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 27, 2014, 11:57:54
QuoteAnd last - don't you have enabled "Automatic export" for track recording function

I hate this different settings :o in Pro share exported data is disabled :D
and in testversion share exported data in enabled ???
sorry my fault
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 27, 2014, 12:16:28
no problem :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 27, 2014, 12:33:36
Quote from: menion on March 27, 2014, 11:43:28
@eldron: thanks. Problem with track details have to be in Locus quite long. Anyway this whole screen (generated description) change during next few months, so please wait a while. I won't fix this issue now due to planned changes.
Ok, I´ll just wait until it´s fixed. It´s not very important, as i can see the whole text in landscape mode.
Quote from: menion on March 27, 2014, 11:43:28
Picture took with Locus should be stored in Locus/data/media . And since next version, photos attached to waypoints created as a part of track recording, should be exported together with track.
Why they open so slow? Do not know. I expect that when you tap on any attached image in Locus, it then opens image in any external image viewer, so it is not a problem in Locus
You are right, the pictures are stored in Locus/data/media, but ALSO in the DCIM/camera folder. So i guess locus just copies them. Would it be possible to change that so locus deletes the copy in the Camera folder?
I´ll have a look why it takes so long to open them, but it´s only that slow when i open them from within locus.

Yes i am using Android 2.3.6, as the android 4.x version available for my phone is not very stable. So it would be great if the memory problems could be fixed, as I am surely not the only one using android 2.x and locus ;-)

Keep up the great work!!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 27, 2014, 13:19:52
It's really weird with your photos. Locus just request "Hey camera app, take a photo and store it to Locus/data/media/photo directory". Thanks all!! If you have copy of this photo in different directory also, it's a problem of camera app, not a Locus. So I suggest to check another app. Opening is weird as well.

Fortunately for me, only just around 10% of Locus users remain on older 2.X Androids. I think more and more, to create perfect working version of Locus and then drop support for 2.X devices. Maybe at the end of the year, we will see. Anyway I'll try to fix it to tomorrow.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 27, 2014, 13:56:26
Rebooting the phone has solved the issue with opening pictures from within locus. Maybe it was a memory problem.
Why i end up with two copies of the pictures i don´t know, but i can live with that.
Guess i´ll have to eventually upgrade to android 4.x then... maybe by the end of the year there will be a stable version available for my phone.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on March 27, 2014, 15:29:22
Quote from: menion on March 27, 2014, 11:43:28
@CaptKaos2: sorry, but this happen just once? I'm not sure I can imagive what exactly happen to you, but if it repeats more offten, we should try to solve it


It happened 3-4 times, but since yesterday I have tried to recreate it, but can't.
Hopefully on Saturday I will be in the same area I was yesterday and I can test it again.
It may be a problem with the Downloaded sqlitedb map I was using. Though that map I used on Tuesday and the problem wasn't present then.

CK
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: wvb on March 27, 2014, 16:10:34
Hi menion,

Thanks for looking into the Field Note issue!
I sadly can't test the beta for now so I'll wait for the new version before uploading my Field Notes.
I also look forward to testing the correct date/time of Travel Bugs.

Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2014, 21:51:27
Edit POI - edit coords
Locus ignore Lat/Lon format from settings
(http://s9.postimg.org/io8f0h2e3/setcoords.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/io8f0h2e3/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2014, 22:13:12
POI
it makes sense to swap current tap dialogs

shoukd be
coords -> coords
and location -> location


(http://s28.postimg.org/6zdiazgm1/l_r.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6zdiazgm1/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2014, 22:18:45
sometimes there is a black square...
a VM problem?

(http://s24.postimg.org/ouoyz8p4h/black.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ouoyz8p4h/)

edit
add clip
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 27, 2014, 23:57:55
hold button means alternate action. right?

there is no action here (in my case)

(http://s15.postimg.org/6n749lao7/long.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6n749lao7/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on March 28, 2014, 06:48:03
When new point is created from a long tap of the map > tap address window > add new point button at bottom, folder's icon is not assigned as point's icon. This behavior has been introduced since 2.20.0.
In case new point is directory created by 'add new point', folder's icon is assigned as point's icon.
Are these an intent?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 28, 2014, 09:47:26
@CaptKaos2:when you find any issue with specific map, or you will be able to simulate it, let me know, we should do something with it.

@gynta
edit coordinates - Locus remember last used settings. So it do not depend on your settings, but on type you used last time.

coordinates - it depend. I look on it more from usage point of view. Text with coordinates is much bigger and a new user by our test more often taps on coordinates then on button on right side. Maybe it's just a problem with icon which looks for you like "pick new location"?

black map - is this happen to you also on real device? Because I do not saw something like this before. So if only VM, I'll ignore it for now

long-click on quick map switch is interesting. I cannot remember if there were any special action in history. Probably not right? Then why is there this symbol? Hmm, I'll remove it, thanks :)

@ta-ka: you are probably right. It because long click now creates different "search" icon. I'll check it
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on March 28, 2014, 11:37:40
There is an issue on icon change operation to multiple points at once then export those points to gpx file. Icons are visually changed on display however exported gpx file contains icon name before changing.  Could you confirm and fix that?

How to confirm:
1. create a work folder and create some points in it assigning icons
2. go to the work folder by locus data manager and check the points
    then change icons by tool button at bottom right > change icons
3. export points to gpx 1.1 and open the gpx file by editor

If icons are changed one by one, this issue doesn't happen.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Kerstin76 on March 28, 2014, 12:02:10
The recent update seems to have broken the geocaching logs, at least on some devices. Only the first line of a log is shown, then some dots (...) as ommittance, and the last line of the log.

I'm using the Defy+ with Android 2.3, maybe that's again the problem, see:
https://getsatisfaction.com/locus/topics/only_2_lines_of_each_log_entry_shown_in_geocache_logs (https://getsatisfaction.com/locus/topics/only_2_lines_of_each_log_entry_shown_in_geocache_logs)

It would be nice if this can be fixed, I like the new layout  :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 28, 2014, 12:24:33
@ta-ka: thanks, problem with icons seems to be there for very very long time. I did a quick fix, but it will require more work in future as there is currently big danger it won't work correctly on other places.

I was also playing with icon of point after long-click and this is nice example of feature that looks very simple on first sight, but it's very complex and quite hard to solve now. So I'll have to look on it more carefully later

@Kerstin76:topic moved :) - http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/only_2_lines_of_each_log_entry_shown_in_geocache_logs (GetSatisfaction will be deleted in near future). So read at bottom - solved
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 28, 2014, 13:55:31
Quoteand all interested in "Images" tab - http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/spoiler_size#comment-9537
i get small success if i modify "initial-scale=1.0" to "minimum-scale=0.1"

(http://s29.postimg.org/isy0eot0j/scale.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/isy0eot0j/)
at start the photo is displayed 1:1 (partly visible), click " - zoombutton" i am able to scale down :D,
only  "2-finger zooming" do not work in this zoomrange. :(
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on March 28, 2014, 18:17:05
Quote from: CaptKaos2 on March 26, 2014, 21:58:21

Today whilst on a route around a reservoir I noticed something strange. When guiding , if I moved my map away from the current position and then pressed the   " Show current location"  button the following happened.
1.The screen would flash to a map view I didn't recognise. But it was so quick to get a bearing on.
2. The screen filled with the caches visible at the zoom level I had previous selected and a bearing line.But with no map features and a cross hatch background.
3. The screen would flash and everything would be as expected.

The whole thing was over in 2-3 seconds

Menion
I think the problem was my doing. :-[
I have a series of downloaded Bing Ord Survey Maps covering the whole of the SW UK. I had selected the one corresponding to my home location prior to going out. But when I arrived on the Moors , (on a different map), as I have Auto-load maps of the same type selected in the Maps-advanced settings, the visible map was for the area.  But as the home map was still the selected map, on pressing the show current location button it would jump to the home map center prior to going to the GPS location. The reason it had only happened a few times was that  I switched to a Vector map to see if it did the same,which it didn't. But on switching back I had selected the right map.
I have just tried it in reverse on my phone to prove it, and yes it behaves the same.

Sorry for my stupidity  :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: berkley on March 29, 2014, 07:05:37
Dashboard editor broken on latest official version?
Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on March 29, 2014, 13:59:50
ach, damn ... thanks Matthias
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: jusc on March 29, 2014, 17:02:04
Is hillshading working for you? I didn´t use it for a longer time, but today after activating it, I can´t see any diffrence with or without it. Have I to download some srtm files before?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on March 29, 2014, 17:10:11
Quote from: jusc on March 29, 2014, 17:02:04Is hillshading working for you?
In zoom 11,12,13,14,15,16 it works

Quote from: jusc on March 29, 2014, 17:02:04Have I to download some srtm files before?
Yes.

edit
eg from
http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/Coverage%20map%20viewfinderpanoramas_org3.htm
or
http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/Coverage%20map%20viewfinderpanoramas_org1.htm
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: jusc on March 29, 2014, 19:58:08
Thanks, I thought I could download it from Locus website.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on March 29, 2014, 22:10:30
After a little search of the Forum found this thread
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3415.msg23944#msg23944

Should never have my map switching problem again, after putting all maps in a new sub directory.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: tommi on March 29, 2014, 22:29:06
Quote from: jusc on March 29, 2014, 19:58:08
Thanks, I thought I could download it from Locus website.
Actually this is supported when you request the altitude for a point. But it doesn't seem to work correctly for me either. The downloaded data seems to be from a different region:
Point added at map center, filled altitude with "download data". Result was the altitude data on the left side of the screen.

@Menion: Is this reproducible for you?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: atomicdryad on March 30, 2014, 11:53:02
Quote from: eldron on March 27, 2014, 12:33:36
Yes i am using Android 2.3.6, as the android 4.x version available for my phone is not very stable. So it would be great if the memory problems could be fixed, as I am surely not the only one using android 2.x and locus ;-)
Do you have root? If so, in /system/build.prop take a look at dalvik.vm.heapsize. Increasing it from 24m to 32m eliminated memory issues in Locus for me. (cm7 with 512m total mem)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 30, 2014, 13:08:09
@atomicdryad 
I have got root access to my phone, but I don´t really like to play with settings when I am not sure what exactly they do. It´s no good for me if the setting increases Locus´stability and decreases stability elsewhere.
Also, until now Locus was working perfectly well, so I´ll wait and see if the next releases will increase stability again.
It´s not a big issue anyway, as I always keep a copy of the last version of locus before installing an update, so I can downgrade if there are problems with the new version.
But thanks for the hint anyway!

@ Menion
Yesterday I was playing around with the new feature of adding points whilst recording a track and attaching pictures to the points. I love the feature, the only downside for me is that it takes a lot of clicks to attach a photo:
Waypoint Button->Attachment Tab->"+"->Take a Picture
Do you think it would be possible to reduce this a bit? My ideas would be:
Add a new button to the track recording bar (the one at the bottom with the stop, pause, add waypoint and settings buttons) that takes you straight to the camera and creates a waypoint after you have taken the picture. So basically a "add picture waypoint" button. Maybe that button could be switched on / off in the settings.
Like this it would be a one-click experience to create a picture waypoint, which i am sure will be useful for many people.
I know that also other files (audio, video) could be attached, but i am guessing that pictures would be the most commonly used.
Another idea, to at least save out on one click - In the attachment tab, instead of having to click the "+", the options ( attach Picture, Video etc.) could also be displayed in the tab itself (where it now says "no attachments available, press + to add"). Once you have added an attachment you would then have to use the "+" to add more, but at least for the first attachment this would save a click.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on March 30, 2014, 22:57:20
@eldron et al., there will be a point at which @menion will need to drop support for ancient versions of Android OS. There are just too many good things that can be done with supported features and stability improvements in the later OS versions. Including code to make things work in old environments reduces the speed and stability (presence of multiple ways to do the same thing, some ugly hacks to simulate the "real thing" in newer version).

I am sure he will go out and drink some beer when he can remove the junk needed for Android 2.2  ;D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: eldron on March 30, 2014, 23:13:37
@Bob
l do agree with you and I would be the first to upgrade to Android 4.x if there was a stable version available for my phone.
But at the moment locus still supports Android 2.x so it should also work well on that version.
I can fully understand though, if menion decides to drop support for old android versions at some point. But i think the right way to do so is to have a good and bugfree version for android 2.x and leave that in the play store, but without support and further upgrades and concentrate on the version for Android 4 and higher.
Which is pretty much what menion wrote in some earlier post in this thread.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on March 31, 2014, 00:44:32
Yes,  that would be the best approach.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: layio on March 31, 2014, 09:58:33
Is any metod to change tabs order in point/geocaching screen?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on March 31, 2014, 10:08:08
QuoteIs any metod to change tabs order in point/geocaching screen?
not yet, vote here ;)
http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/new-screen-for-points-order-of-tabs
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on March 31, 2014, 15:52:35
I'm sending two issue reports and one request. Thanks in advance.

1) Export to kmz always overwrite existing file even if Settings > Miscellaneous > Overwrite data is unchecked.

2) Locus crashes after 'Take a video'. I confirmed it on GNote2 and GTab7. On HTC-J, Locus didn't crash but the video didn't appear as an attachment.

3) The texts 'Distance to start point' and 'Distance to end point' are shared in the different context. One is for track sorting by distance and the other is for trackpoint/waypoint screen. There seems no problem in English, but in Japanese translation, it currently gives strange meaning and I want to improve it. May I ask to introduce 'Sort by dist. to start/end' for track sorting and leave 'Distance from start/to end point' for trackpoint/waypoint screen?

(http://s28.postimg.org/smf9ezxbt/distance1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/smf9ezxbt/) (http://s13.postimg.org/d05skqa77/distance2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/d05skqa77/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 01, 2014, 17:01:48
New version ... all should be fixed ;)

About support for 2.X Androids - don't worry. This won't happen sooner then in Q3/2014 and on 100% this happen only after perfect Locus version.

@ta-ka: both problems fixed. Texts will be ready for translation on crowdin later. Thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 01, 2014, 21:29:03
Hello menion thanks for your work ;D
Tabconfig work well ;D please add discription in config "GC start tab" basic is also possible ;)
Arrow for switch on/off minimap is a nice new feature!
QuoteNew version ... all should be fixed ;)
not at all ;D i think you are not unemployed 8)

after cache update i have to reopen it to see new logs, this was ok in test version you provided to me.

scale photo, no improvement. Do you see my suggestion in #47 ?

#2 is not solved for me sorry k@y, after i click the down left button in opened WP window, map is displayed and not listing
http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/some-annoying-bugs-in-2200-1

Quote
POI, Trackpoi and WPT work well :D
#21 + #27 sorry, "trackpoi name" isnt marked anymore, it worked in last testversion
QuotePhotopoi the name is selected but the keyboard didn´t open automatic :-[
EDIT:
Save Track is not selected
both not solved
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: eldron on April 01, 2014, 22:05:47
@Menion
Just downloaded 2.20.1.1 after skipping 2.20.1 and i must say - whatever you did, the new point screen now loads super quick again, no more waiting time.
So I just want to thank you for your constant improvement of locus.
When i look at companies like microsoft, with their multi billion dollar budget, and they still have bugs that have been known for years (!!!) in their mainstream software like Word or Outlook it always impresses me how you sometimes fix bugs within hours of being reported.
Keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 01, 2014, 23:35:08
Quote from: menion on April 01, 2014, 17:01:48
New version...
Very good idea the option to hide the minimap.
That was the first step ;)

ok, why i have to read the POIname twice?
(http://s29.postimg.org/k5gwgx1oj/twice.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/k5gwgx1oj/)


If you remove now the second name bar, we have another view to important POI info line
(http://s29.postimg.org/w62chn937/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/w62chn937/) (http://s29.postimg.org/9suluu85f/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9suluu85f/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: eldron on April 02, 2014, 00:01:18
@gynta
the second name bar makes sense, when the name of the point is quite long - which is not unusual with geocaches.
The top bar in the geocaching point screen has some additional symbols (for hint and logging) and has therefore got less space for the name of the POI. On my phone it´s a difference of about 15 letters.
Also, the second bar displays the cache symbol (Tradi, Multi, mystery etc.). So from a geocacher´s point of view the second bar does make sense ;-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 02, 2014, 00:30:00
Hm, in this case..
..nice again for GC community..
Years ago a forum user wrote, he fears, Locus will be a poor GC tool in next time...
I think now, he was not soo wrong.  ;)
60% work is GC stuff. ::)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: joeloc on April 02, 2014, 01:36:00
The "Save Actual Part" function of a currently recorded track does not work as expected. I would think it should remember the name I enter there for subsequent calls and also for when I finally finish the track recording. It should also overwrite the track in the database when the name matches.

Right now, when I manually enter the same name every time I use "save actual part", I get duplicate entries with equal names in the database. Thats not good.

When the name remembering is fixed, we could think of an "Auto Save and Export Actual Part every XX minutes" option in that window. This would allow us to always keep a current GPX track of the currently recorded track in the export directory. We could use that with further scripting to automatically geolocate pictures on the fly, update trip web sites while the trip is happening, etcpp.

Greetings from California...
joe.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: joeloc on April 02, 2014, 03:08:06
Btw... thanks A LOT for making the point screen instantaneous again! I was about going to suggest to render the mini map in a separate thread, but apparently you were quicker :-).

You probably dont always realize that when testing stuff in the comfort of your development couch. But every single place where Locus "delays" the user interface turns into a major nuisance and multiplies a hundredfold when conditions are worse. Think about moving bicycles, think about being in a snow storm, think about being in blinding sunlight with sunglasses, think about sweating your ass off in a dry desert, think about being in serious battery preserving mode. Even delaying by just a tenth of a second is too much already. It always makes you wonder if Locus recognized the tap, if you need to tap again, if you missed the button, if something else is wrong, etcpp.

A snappy and responsive UI in each and every case adds SO MUCH to the usability and to the "feeling" of Locus that it cannot be underestimated. On the other hand... "fade to black" thingies and "work in progress..." views are the worst thing ever.

Just my two cents... but I know I am kind of "extreme"... :)



Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on April 02, 2014, 10:04:33
Quote- disabled dismiss of "Edit coordinates screen" by touching outside

Thank you!! I fly in a shaky helicopter and I touch outside this box and POOF! Now it will stay!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: eldron on April 02, 2014, 10:52:24
Quote from: gynta on April 02, 2014, 00:30:00
Hm, in this case..
..nice again for GC community..
Years ago a forum user wrote, he fears, Locus will be a poor GC tool in next time...
I think now, he was not soo wrong.  ;)
60% work is GC stuff. ::)
Well if that´s the case, then Locus is the best "poor" GC tool I have ever seen ;-)
It´s a big notch above all other Geocaching apps I have ever tried.
I might be wrong, but I would guess that a big part of the Locus userbase are geocachers, so maybe some development in that directed is justified ;-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 02, 2014, 11:20:08
Quote from: gynta on April 02, 2014, 00:30:00
I think now, he was not soo wrong.  ;)
60% work is GC stuff. ::)

Hehe I use it 60% for gc, the other forty for planning tracking reviewing :-) So it really is great that it has gc support.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 02, 2014, 11:42:20
Quote from: szebenyib on April 02, 2014, 11:20:08
Quote from: gynta on April 02, 2014, 00:30:00
60% work is GC stuff. ::)
Hehe I use it 60% for gc,
Hehe sometimes i hate it, to be right ;)
Anyway - It's Menions rules to make his own tool.
I'm asking. what he do with Locus?
GC? hm not really,
Hiking? dont think so.
Biking? little bit
Walking? NO!
Car navigate? Nope.
Sitting on the couch? ;) just kidding
sorry for off topic.
...and now back to couch! ;D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 02, 2014, 14:11:13
So seems that really almost everything is fixed :) Thanks all for help with testing!!

Anyway ...

@balloni:
- problem with refresh - we discuss this before this version. It's a problem in Locus API and till I fix it, you will always have this problem if both, Locus Free and Locus Pro exists on one device

- scale photo, we work on it

- selection & keyboard: hard work. We will see in next version. Same with tap on geocache waypoint

@eldron: thanks :). Speed of Point screen is almost on max. As joeloc wrote, and I agree, that every longer delay descrease usability and good feeling from using every app. Unfortunately I'm worried that I'm consumed all possibilities how to speed screen up. For now.

@gynta: to make name of points more important, also a basic points will now have next to name icon ;). And by our poll around year ago, there were around 50 % of people using Locus also for geocaching, so even if I'm not biggest fan, I have no choice ;)

@Bob Denny: you're welcome ;)

@joeloc: this is currently how "Save part of track" work. Locus do not check tracks on duplicities in same way as for points. So I think, it's more like request for improvements, but I personally do not think, that it's needed. There is more features missing around track recording, so I may only suggest Help Desk for now
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 02, 2014, 15:34:38
Quote- added ability to define order of tabs in 'Point screen' by config.cfg
i have played a little and it works well :D
but if is start the "pro" one time, the values e.g. 14I1I11I12I13 are deleted :-[
can i do anything to prevent this behavior?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 02, 2014, 15:36:44
Quote from: balloni55 on April 02, 2014, 15:34:38can i do anything to prevent this behavior?
Do'nt start Pro  :P
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 02, 2014, 15:49:31
QuoteDo'nt start Pro  :P
OT: perfect, thanks  i  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 02, 2014, 16:10:05
gynta's right :). Every Locus version overwrite this file on exit. So Locus Pro do not know these parameters, so they are lost once you stop Pro version

EDIT: I forget one thing - anyone from SK has Android with 4.1.1. Seems that Locus crash a lot on A 4.1.1 only due to some problems in Android. Usually when you try to display certain (I do not know which) pages. So if anyone with this android has some crashes, please write me on which pages, so I can fix it. Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 02, 2014, 19:57:47
Hi, menion.

Could you please confirm the following?

Google Places Search -> import search result -> open point screen -> tap 'Load more information' -> back button.
Then, a question pop-up window appears and it asks whether to overwrite or to ignore(duplicate) the point.

I think that the point should be simply saved without question.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 02, 2014, 21:45:49
ah thank you. Confirmed, fixed

edit at 11:26:37
So another version just for those, who expect some fixes. Otherwise there are no great news...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 03, 2014, 13:26:33
But that is great news!! It is noticeably faster on my xperia, and black blinking is gone so it has not been vain to spend that time with it! :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 03, 2014, 13:45:49
it also improved speed for you? perfect, glad to hear it. So together with some other speed optimizations, I really hope that "Point screen" appear fast enough for common using now ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 03, 2014, 19:38:34
Hello menion,
thanks for your work 8)
Quote- fixed problems with "Geocache" button in parent waypoints
i can confirm :)
Quote- fixed problems with visibility of keyboard and selection of text in edit mode of new point screen
one point is open, selection is missing while saving a track ;)

(http://s29.postimg.org/sewte9c6r/track.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sewte9c6r/)
Quote- highly improved listing/images tab zooming for geocaches (need a lot of testing)
see http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/spoiler_size

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 03, 2014, 19:47:21
I was already looking on dialog when save a track. It should work, but for me it also do not work :). Anyway because this screen needs same work as was done for points, I'll leave it for now. I believe this is not a big problem.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 04, 2014, 11:39:15
Will this be released as a bugfix release or just as a new version?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 04, 2014, 11:46:54
hmm to be true, there is no big difference :). Some months ago, I was publishing new version of Locus almost every week. This has changed so now it's usually once per month bigger version with more changes. And then usually one or in worst case two (like now) updates within one or two weeks, that fix most problems. So I want to release probably tomorrow one more update that will mainly fix some existing problems.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 1.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 04, 2014, 12:46:52
That black blink and speed is noticeable for me that's why I asked. I understand you don't want to flood users with updates, I was just curious.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 04, 2014, 21:18:50
i noticed one insignificant behavior with "minimap"
opening a poi, minimap is always displayed in highest zoomlevel :) after i  close the minimap with the arrow and reopen it the mapzoom is changed, see screencast
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 05, 2014, 00:52:06
new point screen auto save changes, after go back.
but not in all cases.
see clip
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 05, 2014, 07:33:05
@balloni: thanks, I know it. It's because I do not know size of map overview when map is drawn so I cannot compute correctly the scale. I'll try to improve it.

@gynta: ah, this problem had to be there also before wasn't it? Anyway thanks, I'll fix it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 05, 2014, 13:10:36
Hi, menion.

Please confirm two things below.

1) The default setting of the Track recording > Automatic export is None(do not export).
    However, on new installation of Locus, the text '(GPX)' is wrongly shown in front of the description.

2) While viewing online map, Miscellaneous > Clear temporary data > Cache of online maps also clears
    current map selection and brings Blank Light map. Locus should not forget current map selection.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 06, 2014, 21:13:13
ta-ka thanks, both problem should be OK now. Second was quite serious because I discovered that I delete whole content of mapsOnline directory also with custom map providers!! Sorry for this, fixed now

And test version in first post ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 06, 2014, 21:58:50
Quote from: menion on March 25, 2014, 16:20:46
changes compare to 2.20.1.5
- a lot of changes on Point screen...

What purpose has this annoying notice:

(http://s24.postimg.org/swrp8q29t/iknow.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/swrp8q29t/)

I always think to myself: "Please! be quiet and simply show me!" ;)

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 06, 2014, 22:50:08
But I like it :-) I mean it is useful as a feedback that I have tapped on a point and it will open.
Maybe there are other ways to do this, but on slower machines it is useful. I definitely recall that sometimes I have been wondering if I had touched the Poi to open because it opened slowly and I didn't see this.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 05:12:09
as szebenyib wrote. In current version is a small vibration as confirmation on tap, but I had so many negative reactions, that I returned back to loading dialog. Maybe make it just less obtrustive (semi-transparent) should help a little.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: tommi on April 07, 2014, 06:39:54
Quote from: menion on April 07, 2014, 05:12:09
as szebenyib wrote. In current version is a small vibration as confirmation on tap, but I had so many negative reactions, that I returned back to loading dialog. Maybe make it just less obtrustive (semi-transparent) should help a little.
a smaller box would improve it as well
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 13:37:18
neverending searching and fixing of problems is slowly ending :)

I just placed to first post improved version due to some remaining problems. If there won't be any issue, tomorrow is new release. So if anyone had to be sure, everything works, check it ;). After that version will be longer break (at least 5 weeks), so this have to be perfect.

And tommi, I was trying to improve it, but all was worst then current dialog. But time usually brings some idea, so later.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: petulinka1 on April 07, 2014, 13:43:56
I'm going to test it at the evening. :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 07, 2014, 13:46:33
Maybe the icon could pulse: grow a bit then shrink?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 13:50:19
I've also added link to new Geoacaching4Locus if anyone wants to test not working "Images" tab and also images attached to logs

@szebenyib: I was also thinking about it, but because such feature not yet exists in Locus, it's not so simple :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 4.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 13:59:37
gynta Gynta GYNTAAAAA, you tried new version on emulator with 4.1.1 and it crashed for you. I know all :)) but this is exactly problem I tried to simulate for almost fourteen days without success. May you give me precise information where I get exactly same image for virtual machine?? Save me please :) Thanks!!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 07, 2014, 15:10:00
My theme: automatic backup :-)

Since 03.04.2014 the free test versions do not longer make a automatic backup. I immediately update after you release a new test version so it could be Locus 2.20.1.3.

The pro makes these update periodical
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 15:11:50
and it's set correctly in backup manager?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 07, 2014, 15:19:25
QuoteMay you give me precise information where I get exactly same image for virtual machine??
hm the problem is...

Have FC with Free and Pro after tap on datamanager
So I delete (renamed crashed tracks.db) and all is fine now. ;o)
Should I try to change it back ?

using newest Oracle VM VirtualBox
with old androVM_vbox86t_4.1.1_r6.1-20130222-gapps-houdini-flash image
on W7
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 07, 2014, 15:20:43
Quote from: menion on April 07, 2014, 15:11:50
and it's set correctly in backup manager?

Yes, ofc.
I looked 3 times.


Edit:
I changed the time to the next backup, unchecked and checked again the activate checkbox and now I got a backup at the correct time.
Perhaps a hiccup :-)

Edit2: The date was always correct updated .

Excuse me.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 15:28:44
Quote from: gynta on April 07, 2014, 15:19:25
QuoteMay you give me precise information where I get exactly same image for virtual machine??
hm the problem is...

Have FC with Free and Pro after tap on datamanager
So I delete (renamed crashed tracks.db) and all is fine now. ;o)
Should I try to change it back ?

using newest Oracle VM VirtualBox
with old androVM_vbox86t_4.1.1_r6.1-20130222-gapps-houdini-flash image
on W7

noooo :) Damn ... I have big problem with this. It crash quite a to lot of people, but even I have log, there is absolutely nothing that may help, so I need to simulate it home. But all device have other then 4.1.1 and on emulators/simulator I wasn't able to get this problem. Don't you remember if you used for example any special characters as names of folders or points? Because problem is caused probably by some special characters or some html code in name or generally something with text ..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 07, 2014, 15:37:30
Quote from: menion on April 07, 2014, 15:28:44
Don't you remember if you used for example any special characters as names of folders or points? Because problem is caused probably by some special characters or some html code in name or generally something with text ..
No, i don't enter any name labels. I will try again...

edit:
my db is crashed again :)
what should i do now?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 07, 2014, 15:37:52
QuoteMy theme: automatic backup :-)
here is my experience, i do backup only with pro and will continue this list
EDIT:
the backupdate is allways set to next day although the update failed
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 07, 2014, 20:20:16
Quote- new settings for automatic loading of waypoints
after first start of testversion i saw the add. waypoints :), after i switched them off they are gone and never seen independent i select one, multible or all. I installed the testversion onceagain but it doesn´t help
(http://s9.postimg.org/f9mf4w4jv/WPauto.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/f9mf4w4jv/)
Quote- added support for images in cache and images for geocache logs added over API (needs new version of Geocaching4Locus - not yet published)
loading over GC4L livemap it works 8)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on April 07, 2014, 22:19:13
Like balloni55 I have a problem with Automatic waypoint loading.
If I have no caches selected and make a selection in the Automatic waypoint loading in the Geocaching settings, when I select  caches the waypoints are shown.
Deselect all selections in  Automatic waypoint loading in the Geocaching settings , and the waypoints are still displayed. Even a restart doesn't hide them.
The only way to hide them is to deselect all caches and reselect again.
It is similar if I have caches selected and choose to show waypoints. The only way to display them is deselecting caches and reselecting them again.

Edit:-
One thing I forgot to mention, the GC Offlinizer now scales any images to fit the window. Happy with that. :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 22:25:42
guys sorry, but I do not understand both of you.

Did you know this feature before? You may try it in existing last public Pro version. It do only single task - when you want to display new cache, it loads all waypoints of this cache. Nothing more. It do not load waypoints for already visible caches or do not hide waypoints if you uncheck this settings. It really just load them when you load a cache on map, nothing more.

And settings in test version, just allow to choose which waypoints will be loaded.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on April 07, 2014, 22:37:30
Menion
Sorry, just checked the last Pro version and as you said it works as the test version. As it was just one selection in the past (all or nothing) I never noticed.
 
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 22:39:27
fine, no problem. So this settings should work only for "new loading of caches - in this moment is this settings applied". Seems it's not clear from description right? Hmmm ..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on April 07, 2014, 22:56:30
Yes, the description would be more accurately " Automatically load additional waypoints when  cache is selected for display on map"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 07, 2014, 22:58:31
oki, I'll update it after release (too keep translation to next version)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 08, 2014, 12:41:13
Quoteadded support for images in cache and images for geocache logs
Hello menion,
where are this images stored? i have searched, but couldn´t find the folder

and sorry for my missunderstanding "loaded waipoints" :-[
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 08, 2014, 13:31:41
Quote from: ta-ka on March 31, 2014, 15:52:35
Locus crashes after 'Take a video'. I confirmed it on GNote2 and GTab7.
On HTC-J, Locus didn't crash but the video didn't appear as an attachment.

This issue was solved on samsung devices about a week ago. Thank you.
But... on HTC device, the issue is not solved yet. I use stock camera.

I found that the video is stored as /sdcard/DCIM/100MEDIA/VIDEO[num].mp4 instead of /sdcard/Locus/data/media/video/_[number].mp4. This may be the reason why the video doesn't appear as an attachment of the point.

I also found that the photo taken from Locus is always stored in two folders. One is /sdcard/DCIM/100MEDIA/IMAG[num].jpg and the other is /sdcard/Locus/data/media/photo/_[number].jpg. The later one is attached to the point.

EDIT:
I noticed an another thing.
On samsumg devices, video taken from Locus has 'avi' file extension. But stock video player says the file type is video/mp4.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 08, 2014, 13:38:04
@balloni: images are not preloaded. So they are loaded when needed. Images in logs should be stored in Locus/cache/images directory and images in "Images" tab are cached automatically by web browser in internal memory (where is limit for cache around 10MB)

And really no need to sorry about waypoint. It's my problem that explanation is not clear!

@ta-ka: thanks. I received one report on bugsense, but it will need some more testing later. Anyway what application are you using for a taking photo/video? I'm on 99% sure, that duplicates are problem of this app, not Locus. Because Locus only say to system "Call app that store image/video to this X file", and that's all. When this task is done, system call back to Locus "OK, done" in case you took a photo or "Sorry canceled" if you canceled it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 08, 2014, 14:04:04
Thanks for the explanation. I always use the default camera app.
Meanwhile I'll try another camera app from Play store.

P.S.  please have a look at my previous post about 'avi' and 'mp4' extension of the video.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 08, 2014, 14:30:19
Please confirm two things about Google Places Search.

1) "Google Places Search > search > More > More" sometimes gives "No search results". It's not 100% reproducible but it happens.

2) The pop-up message "Point is not stored in the database" is shown twice.
      - Google Places Search > search > Select all > (x) button at top-right > 'Load more information'
      - then 'back' button
    I think the pop-up message is even confusing and may be unnecessary.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 08, 2014, 14:37:44
QuoteIt's my problem that explanation is not clear!
this misunderstanding generate i new idea  ;D
if a cache has a WP "parking area" display it automatic if this option is selected.
So the geocacher is able to guide/navigate direct to the parkingplace 8)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: Bucky Kid on April 08, 2014, 15:08:09
Yet before releasing public version...a minor bug in waypoint screen (editing). Pressing back button saves changes in text fields, but discards icon change. From this it's not clear if back behaves as OK or cancel. I still would suggest using back button as cancel. Anybody other give vote for this?

Edit, oh no back really behaves as Save, new icon shows on the waypoint screen, but doing edit again, old icon is used, ie. edit dialog doesnot seem to receive data from once updated waypint screen.

And Edit2: waypoint editing screen is still not handled after sliding out virtual keyboard (scroll range won't cover top of the dialog)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: gps2003 on April 08, 2014, 18:09:27
When will the new version be available in  Google App Store. I like to wait for the new version, but I'm waiting for the Dashboard fix.

Thank you

Andreas
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 08, 2014, 18:11:02
new version is uploaded, so it will be ready for download during a few hours. Seems there will be still some minor issues, but hope nothing serious that should wait ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: jusc on April 08, 2014, 19:14:41
Quote from: gps2003 on April 08, 2014, 18:09:27
When will the new version be available in  Google App Store. I like to wait for the new version, but I'm waiting for the Dashboard fix.

Thank you

Andreas

You know that there are already some dashboards from other users in this forum?

Gesendet von meinem GT-N7100 mit Tapatalk

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gps2003 on April 08, 2014, 20:24:23
Quote from: jusc on April 08, 2014, 19:14:41


You know that there are already some dashboards from other users in this forum?

Gesendet von meinem GT-N7100 mit Tapatalk

No, i didn't know this, but I am a brand new user and more and more astonished of all the Locus Pro features.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on April 09, 2014, 19:39:59
Gave it and the new version of Geocaching4Locus a good testing today on Bodmin Moor, worked great, not one problem. Only one thing I am not sure about, how do you add an image to geocache log?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 09, 2014, 20:30:43
Quotehow do you add an image to geocache log?
i think it works only in the other direction, you are able to see photos in logs of others
http://www.locusmap.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/geocaching_log_images.png
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 09, 2014, 20:43:40
right ... http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/see-and-add-photo-directly-in-the-logs-page
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 09, 2014, 20:53:03
QuoteIt's needed to update them over Geoaching4Locus add-on.
Hi menion
how i can update my PQ loaded caches over GC4L ?? :-[
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 09, 2014, 21:23:23
go to folder with caches, select these you want to update and in bottom right button is "Update caches". You may update all at once, this new system should handle it correctly (up to 6000/day)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on April 09, 2014, 21:49:01
  Thanks balloni55 and menion, that explains why the attachment photo didn't upload. :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 09, 2014, 21:51:57
Quotego to folder with caches, select these you want to update and in bottom right button is "Update caches"
it do not work for me :-[ only when importing with GC4L, see both screencasts
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ssgq7svtmbr6ejf/Locus.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3uuc7kgerkcd4uu/GC4L.mp4
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 10, 2014, 08:03:07
Quote from: tramp20 on April 07, 2014, 15:10:00

Since 03.04.2014 the free test versions do not longer make a automatic backup. I immediately update after you release a new test version so it could be Locus 2.20.1.3.

The pro makes these update periodical

Hi Menion,
there must be a little bug:
Once the automatic backup is running then it is repeated every day.
But if I install a new update of Locus /free/test/pro then the backup is stopped, the date for the next backup is updated anyway.

My solution so far: deactivate and reactivate the repetition.

I noticed this with the test versions, now the pro was updated and showed the same behavior.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 10, 2014, 08:16:53
@balloni: you are correct, sorry: http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/see-and-add-photo-directly-in-the-logs-page#comment-9890

@tramp20: good point, this should be a problem, perfect, thank you!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: jusc on April 10, 2014, 08:43:06
I created a small route, it´s shown in the diagram like this:

(http://s10.postimg.org/70rv82pkl/F01.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/70rv82pkl/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 10, 2014, 08:45:03
jusc, this is known problem when locus try to draw all names of waypoints at X axis.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 10, 2014, 08:59:33
QuoteMy solution so far: deactivate and reactivate the repetition.
yesterday after pro update and device newstart i also set new backup all day at 22:30
first backup is stored at 22:42
next backuptime is displayed  10.4. at 22:00
perhaps this behavior give you also a hint to solve your nightmare ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 12, 2014, 00:30:19
change/edit track style failed when i'm stay in edit mode.
If I leave the mode, it works.
see clip
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 12, 2014, 07:14:51
Quote from: tramp20 on April 10, 2014, 08:03:07
Once the automatic backup is running then it is repeated every day.

My solution so far: deactivate and reactivate the repetition.


Sorry but there must be another additional dependend bug:
After a device restart the automatic backup is stopping too until reactivated again.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 12, 2014, 08:37:25
QuoteAfter a device restart the automatic backup is stopping too until reactivated again
i can confirm this behavior in 2.20.2,
if i remember right, device restart doesn´t matter in 2.20.1
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Ivo Nörenberg on April 13, 2014, 09:03:07
I just discovered that I loose my dashboard every time I close Locus. This wasn't like this before. When I click return to close Locus, first I close my Dashboard and then I still have to click two times to close Locus. It should be possible to close Locus without closing the Dashboard.
I don't want to active my Dashboard every time I open Locus.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: KaHeMu on April 13, 2014, 10:48:46
Quote from: ivolino on April 13, 2014, 09:03:07
I just discovered that I loose my dashboard every time I close Locus. This wasn't like this before. When I click return to close Locus, first I close my Dashboard and then I still have to click two times to close Locus. It should be possible to close Locus without closing the Dashboard.
I don't want to active my Dashboard every time I open Locus.

+1
Same meaning as ivolino wrote.
Regards,
KaHeMu
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: jusc on April 13, 2014, 11:46:13
I can´t reproduce it. I close Locus with open dashboard and after new start of Locus the dashboard starts automatically too.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 13, 2014, 12:07:01
I too have no dashboard problem.

Android 4.4.2
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Ivo Nörenberg on April 13, 2014, 12:20:35
How do you close Locus? With double click on return? If you do so, the dashboard don't disappear?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 13, 2014, 12:28:46
Quote from: ivolino on April 13, 2014, 12:20:35
How do you close Locus? With double click on return? If you do so, the dashboard don't disappear?

Usually with one click of course, but even with two clicks the dashboard remains visible.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Ivo Nörenberg on April 13, 2014, 12:36:18
How can you leave Locus with one click? I am always asked to double click.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: KaHeMu on April 13, 2014, 13:16:16
 :) :)
Now I got it! Each dashboard has the possibility to switch on or off to end it with return button.
You can do it in dashboard edit mode/preferences.

Regards
KaHeMu
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: berkley on April 13, 2014, 17:45:56
Very small issue with hiding online maps from list of map providers.
After going through complete list with checking and unchecking some providers, i thought the two buttons on top right mean "save" (check-button) and "cancel" (cross-button). But instead they mean "un-/check all" (check-button) and "save and go back" (cross-button). See screenshot.
(http://s30.postimg.org/8bbryvfbx/Screenshot_2014_04_13_17_25_59.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8bbryvfbx/)

Some kind of missunderstanding and doing all the work again... ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 13, 2014, 17:54:01
heheh
I'm already gone into the trap 8)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 14, 2014, 12:03:01
@gynta: thanks. Editing styles right after "fill altitude" is fixed

@KaHeMu, Ivolino and other "dashboarders" :)

1. you may close locus with one or two clicks - depend on your settings in menu > settings > misc > confirm exit
2. to prevent closing dashboards on one click, follow what KaHeMu wrote - it's in settings of every dashboard if may be closed by back button or not

@berkley, gynta: thanks, you're of course right. Improved
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 16, 2014, 10:50:01
Exported "track.kmz" do not open with GE
I export a track with included POI-photos, GE open but not the track with the photos :(
If i unzip this .kmz and open the .kml all works fine :)
Exported "POI.kmz" work well.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: joeloc on April 18, 2014, 03:48:47
Quote from: menion on March 26, 2014, 12:30:14
And "Edit in screen" - yes, it's my final decision. Nor you or joeloc may convince me, sorry. I'm sometimes checking some apps from Google as I wrote above and "Contacts" are very inspiring in many details, so I created system same as is there.

Sometimes I wonder what you smoke when you make these "final decisions". Must be good stuff indeed, I want some :). So I guess we are stuck forever with this weirdo mixed and messed up point screen now? Some parts are directly editable (eg coordinates) and other parts (name, category) go through an extra edit mode?! Congratulations on another major gui blunder...  :/.

I suppose your way of "fixing" this might then be making the coordinates non-editable too? What is an extra tap and an extra window after all... users have all the time in the world when using Locus and they love nothing more than to navigate through its numerous layers.

Will the track screen become just as horrid? Any ideas yet on what fields will be directly editable and what fields will need  jumping through an extra hoop?

Sorry for being harsh again... but how you can even remotely consider this to be a "logical" user interface is totally beyond me.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 18, 2014, 07:11:19
Quote from: joeloc on April 18, 2014, 03:48:47
Sometimes I wonder what you smoke when you make these "final decisions". Must be good stuff indeed, I want some :). So I guess we are stuck forever with this weirdo mixed and messed up point screen now? Some parts are directly editable (eg coordinates) and other parts (name, category) go through an extra edit mode?! Congratulations on another major gui blunder...  :/.
Funny, I should ask the same :)

Anyway from what you wrote, seems that your only problem are editable coordinates. If so, then I think that screen is perfect.

Whole screen is created in exactly same way as default application from Google - Contacts. I like this system and for me it seems to be user friendly. After some user-testing we had, no one had any serious problems with this, so we consider it as - final solution.

And track screen will be same horrid, yes :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 07:21:05
Quote from: menion on April 18, 2014, 07:11:19... no one had any serious problems with this,
Ähemm...  8)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 07:55:46
Quote from: balloni55 on April 16, 2014, 10:50:01
Exported "track.kmz" do not open with GE
I export a track with included POI-photos, GE open but not the track with the photos :(
If i unzip this .kmz and open the .kml all works fine :)
Exported "POI.kmz" work well.
Hallo Wolfgang
How do you export the "track.kmz" exactly?
I'm not sure if I understand.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: KaHeMu on April 18, 2014, 07:56:27
Quote from: menion on April 18, 2014, 07:11:19
...
Funny, I should ask the same :)

Anyway from what you wrote, seems that your only problem are editable coordinates. If so, then I think that screen is perfect.

Whole screen is created in exactly same way as default application from Google - Contacts. I like this system and for me it seems to be user friendly. After some user-testing we had, no one had any serious problems with this, so we consider it as - final solution.

And track screen will be same horrid, yes :)

Hello menion,

I think you're wrong with the kind of editable coordinates. For my humble opinion it should be the other way around.
If you press the area with numbers you will change numbers, if you press the crosshair sign you will do more specific things like coordinates by the middle of the screen, by map, whatever you want.

Other possibilitys to edit something are OK.

Regards,
KaHeMu
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 25.3.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 08:01:01
Quote from: KaHeMu on April 18, 2014, 07:56:27For my humble opinion it should be the other way around.If you press the area with numbers you will change numbers, if you press the crosshair sign you will do more specific things like coordinates by the middle of the screen, by map, whatever you want.
Other possibilitys to edit something are OK.

-> http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg28073#msg28073
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 08:58:44
edit point

(http://s2.postimg.org/lng8qm4mt/2014_04_18_084953.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lng8qm4mt/)

(http://s2.postimg.org/tesdbfjed/2014_04_18_085018.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tesdbfjed/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 10:12:34
select track

(http://s14.postimg.org/ygh2tyif1/2014_04_18_093944.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ygh2tyif1/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 18, 2014, 10:13:59
@KaHeMu, Gynta: thanks, you're right so buttons for editing coordinates switched.

Linebreaks - I'll think about it. But, probably why not.

Left panel - :)

Quote from: gynta on March 26, 2014, 22:16:35
Hi Menion
"Add attachment" symbol disappeared after "discard".
see clip...

this should be already fixed. At least for me it works correctly.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 18, 2014, 13:23:00
QuoteHow do you export the "track.kmz" exactly?
thanks for your demand ;)
it doesn´nt matter i export the "track with POI photos" from opened track or from datafolder, see screenshots
(http://s11.postimg.org/sz0jz20lb/Export.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sz0jz20lb/)
The  .kmz do not open with GE.  :o
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lq2d9xkbm0upcjo/l%C3%B6ffelstelz.kmz
Rename it to .zip and unzip this folder, after click on .kml the track with attached photos open well in GE :D

menion,
accidentally i found a bug while cleaning  data "unused Attachements" , the used photos of this track are deleted, see video
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzotzt98gwwgj4d/Datenbereinigung.mp4
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 26.3.2014)
Post by: KaHeMu on April 18, 2014, 15:13:30
Quote from: menion on April 18, 2014, 10:13:59
@KaHeMu, Gynta: thanks, you're right so buttons for editing coordinates switched.

...

It's a nice feeling sitting on harbour of Capri/Italy and read such good news!

Regards,
KaHeMu
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 15:48:28
Quote from: balloni55 on April 18, 2014, 13:23:00
QuoteHow do you export the "track.kmz" exactly?
thanks for your demand ;)
np - i know, be ignored is frustrating ;)

QuoteThe  .kmz do not open with GE.  :o
I'm not able, to reproduce this.
see attachment
maybe we make different things...

@Menion
see second 10-13 in the clip.
maybe it's not clear for new users why there are 0 Points
(because there are 2 WP in the track)
any idea?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 18, 2014, 17:12:16
@balloni: firstly thanks for this issue with deleted attachments and sorry for this. Problem found and fixed.

Your file is anyway mystery. I've reduced it's content to single line with two points and even this is not loaded ... why? Why no error in Google Earth? I have no idea for now :)

And THANK YOU for nice wish!! Very nice

@gynta: hmm, I don't want to display there some complex messages (as well as during import). Writing "Imported one track with 2 attached waypoints" should be more confusing then this I think.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 18, 2014, 17:54:01
Hmm, new version is here.

Don't kill me and rather say me what you don't like and mainly what you do better!! ;)

Also wish nice weekend and if you plan to test this version in the wild, please keep also perfectly working 2.20.2 Pro version, to be sure
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 18:10:25
Quote from: menion on April 18, 2014, 17:12:16
@balloniYour file is anyway mystery. I've reduced it's content to single line with two points and even this is not loaded ... why? Why no error in Google Earth? I have no idea for now :)
got it
replace "ö" to "oe" INSIDE kmz

(http://s3.postimg.org/4arhbtozj/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4arhbtozj/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 18, 2014, 18:43:28
ah damn, I tried everything inside the file and not the name itself. You're genius, thank you :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: KaHeMu on April 18, 2014, 22:36:50
Hello menion,

what a nice feature with automatic starting of track recording.
And such wonderful buttons there are better for thick fingers on small devices and more attractive.
Get Locus a new GUI?

Regards,
Karl-Heinz
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: berkley on April 18, 2014, 23:01:23
Sorry, but the new track recording is not acceptable to me.

Now you need 2 clicks instead of 1 to start, stop or pause track recording.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 18, 2014, 23:13:52
18.4.2014 - Locus 2.20.2.1
Quote- completely new panel for Track record
in my case:
before: tap pause/stop
now: double tap to activate panel - tap record  - tap pause
GUI looks nice - but...

Quote- completely new settings for track record based on profiles (removed old)
Settings -> Track recording -> Add more
- It's not possible to cancel - profile was added immediately. its boring to remove
- please add walk cycle car as default profiles - and cycle as default setting - instead of "my profile"

Quote- added ability to define 'Quick add point' also for track record
good idea!

Quote- improved adding points to tracks
same as pause/stop problem obove.

Quote- switched function of buttons on "CoordinatePanel"
nice, thx

Quote- fixed layout of description in point screen (automatic breaks for non-html text)
nice, thx

Quote- fixed problem with refresh of track on main screen after "Fill altitude"
works
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: berkley on April 19, 2014, 07:44:10
OK, I agree the track recording looks nice.

You can leave it as it is, when you implement clickable buttons in dashboard editor to target your own Locus API to handle track recording.

;D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 19, 2014, 07:58:09
@KaHeMu: not completely. Just this feature. It's needed before I start work on new screen for tracks. Track recording is next to searching most used function and I personally had sometimes problems to handle it on bike etc (too small buttons hidden at bottom), so we decided to create whole screen that offers more possibilities. This is just a first version ...

@Gynta, Matthias: I though about some always visible small button on left side when track record is enabled, or maybe control in notification bar of your device, and yes - clickable buttons to dashboard, agree

"Add more" button - is "Cancel" really needed? How often you tap on it by accident when you know how it works?

Btw. is system of profiles clear for you?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 19, 2014, 08:14:15
Quotealways visible button
thats the point!

Quote"Add more" button - is "Cancel" really needed?
no

QuoteBtw. is system of profiles clear for you?
yes
what about defaults?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 19, 2014, 08:49:43
defaults - no worry. They'll be there. I just have to re-thing, what are really best settings as defaults. Same with content of track record panel. Hope you noticed that content (panels) may change by tap on it :).

I also want to limit number of profiles for a Free version, probably just on 2, so I'll need just two defaults
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 19, 2014, 08:55:59
I did not find out if the new track record panel auto-hides after starting a new track. If not it should to avoid another tap on backup arrow.
I want to see only the map after starting.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 19, 2014, 09:11:51
Quote from: menion on April 19, 2014, 08:49:43
defaults - no worry. They'll be there.
good to hear

QuoteHope you noticed that content (panels) may change by tap on it
what a question. I found 278+ bugs in Locus. what do you think? :D

Quotelimit number of profiles for a Free version
good idea
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 19, 2014, 11:35:10
Default profiles: I like the ones that are there in the current version. (cycling, walking)

Limit in free: agree, even one should do.

Panel really is nice, but didn't test it thoroughly yet.

Btw. Is it an android or a Locus limitation to allow only the system language in Locus? I wanted to try a different language but I did not want to change my phone's language.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 19, 2014, 13:15:29
Quotegot it
replace "ö" to "oe" INSIDE kmz
perfect, i think it is also a good hint to puplic in manual ;)

my first impression of Locus 2.20.2.1
representation is not perfect, "compassneedle" cover "mapswitch button" text in german language is partly concealed

(http://s16.postimg.org/y4i0wnl5t/berdeckt.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/y4i0wnl5t/)

After i start a track an unneeded window apeares ! if i click the record button i want to start recording, nothing else.
What is the advantage of a "count down" track-startbutton?
After i have started a track this needless window should disapeare automaticly.
Where can i see the status of trackrecording? recording or paused
in my opinion the "orange button" have to change like in all audio/video-players, doublestroke/triangle
if a doublestroke is displayed device is recording
if a triangle is displayed recording is paused

EDIT:
and also in mapview the pencil in the topline should change (colour/blink) if recording is paused.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 19, 2014, 13:51:58
Quotethe pencil in the topline should change (colour/blink) if recording is paused.
in my case - I don't see a pencil -> full screen mode...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Bob Denny on April 19, 2014, 15:48:25
Menion, I like the new point screen so please keep smoking.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 19, 2014, 16:49:10
Maybe the rec button on the panel should change to indicate if there is recording in progress. Maybe a reddish background would look nice (no pulsing, just a bit of red tint)?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: eldron on April 19, 2014, 17:37:51
I really like the new track record screen - all the information you need at one glance and in big letters!
But i do agree with the others - it would be great to see if a track is being recorded or paused without having to check in the track record screen.
Personally I would even prefer to be able to pause/continue track recording from the main screen with just one click.
And thanks for swapping the coordinate buttons back to how they were - makes much more sence like that!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 19, 2014, 18:13:26
Thinking further
Button like now (blackish) - no rec
Button reddish - recording
Button reddish and blinking - recording paused.

A constant color does not bother. If it blinks it is a bit irritating, but it comes handy. Having paused a recording, blinking would warn you to stop it finally or resume it.

I am not convinced that one button start stop is of advantage, because it can be tapped by mistake ending a recording that I did not want. But I can be convinced :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 19, 2014, 19:28:27
I went cycling and hiking today with Locus 2.20.2.1. It was actual field test of the new track record screen. It works well and I like it. :)

I noticed that:
- It's not possible to change recording profile on the fly while track recording.

- I opened the track recording panel a lot of times to see the dash board info. So I want the track record button on the left side of the screen at least while recording, as similar as guide button or quick map switch.

- Count down voice from 9 to 1 was not pronounced in Japanese with google text-to-speech, while more than 10 and 'start' were pronounced. It might be a problem of google text-to-speech but not locus. Anyway it's strange.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: berkley on April 25, 2014, 19:08:32
It's there.
Anybody else?

edit
Thanks for control of track recording through dashboard. Works nice!
When is new Locus Store ready to publish some dashboards? ;-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 25, 2014, 23:29:29
Idea
Add track wp in a faster way:
(http://s30.postimg.org/kkmo59gpp/add_quick_track_wp.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kkmo59gpp/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 26, 2014, 02:09:39
Quote from: berkley on April 25, 2014, 20:34:50
Thanks for control of track recording through dashboard. Works nice!
When is new Locus Store ready to publish some dashboards? ;-)

eg

(http://s7.postimg.org/3xt4elrjb/rec_screenshot.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3xt4elrjb/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 26, 2014, 19:53:40
@ gynta,
i played a little with your dashboard "gynta_rec.lb", thanks for providing 8)
if i touch the blue button without a started trackrecording locus freeze and stop :-[
ok, it is not the usual workflow, but it is possible ???

edit
post #182
Quoterepresentation is not perfect, "compassneedle" cover "mapswitch button" text in german language is partly concealed
"compassneedle" is solved :)
"text is partly concealed" is not solved ::)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 26, 2014, 20:40:04
Quote from: balloni55 on April 26, 2014, 19:44:59
if i touch the blue button without a started track recording
Yes that's a known bug in Locus,

Quote"text is partly concealed" is not solved
As i wrote via PM few days ago - new translations are not included
And Menion has also not yet responded to http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=301.msg28325#msg28325
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 27, 2014, 10:04:18
Does track recording need a separate button for recording when it's active?
I have a button for that on the right panel, being always visible. Would it be possible to detect if it exists and then not display the rec button in the bottom left corner? The duplicate button just takes up space unnecessarily. (Even if it is nice :-) Locus is getting nicer and nicer)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 27, 2014, 12:35:43
So one by one since 19.4.

@tramp20: auto-hide option will be added to "Track record settings"

@szebenyib: language selection is not by default allowed. All app use language defined by system. In new version of Android, I not yet found a way how to hack it, so till then it won't be possible

@Bob Denny: thanks, appreciate it :)

@balloni, eldron, others: in latest test version, you should see small panel at bottom that indicate a state. I've also improve it yesterday after some suggestions from gynta, so you'll see in next version.

@ta-ka: change of track profile during recording added.

@berkley: you're welcome. Next version of Locus will already have new store. We do not yet have some public console for adding content from other people, but it's next task once, store will work.

@gynta, balloni: crash with "Add waypoint" from dashboard fixed

@gynta: missing answer - as I read, I answered bellow that it depends on geocachers. And no one complain about english names of waypoints :). So I take it as 'OK' ;)

So for me remain one question - visible "REC, PAUSED" button at bottom when recording is active. I can do mechanism, that this button won't be visible if "Track rec" button will be in permanently visible right panel or if recording buttons will be visible in dashboard, but will this be clear? Will be clear on first sight, that this button is not visible right because of this? I'm worried ... no

EDIT: btw. if anyone interested in "fixing" read-only access on KitKat - http://www.fixkitkat.com/
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 27, 2014, 13:11:32
Quotevisible "REC, PAUSED" button at bottom when recording is active
one idea, i don´t know it is possible.
Change colour of dot in the "trackrecord button" in right side panel
red dot = no recording
green dot = recording
orange dot = recording paused

(http://s2.postimg.org/detnr4mx1/REC.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/detnr4mx1/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on April 27, 2014, 13:35:58
+1 for Balloni's solution. I would however change the colors:
Green - no recording
Red  - recording (it is always this way with household devices.)
Orange - paused.

This would be in sync with the colors of the dialog buttons.

@menion: having explicitly put a button on the right panel the user will know it is there (because he has put it there he is not a new user and knows that it is there) A changed color would be definitely noticeablebecause of this in my opinion.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 27, 2014, 16:11:12
oki guys, your solution is acceptable. Colorized button (colors same as in dialog) and in case panel will not have "auto-hiding", Locus won't display side button. I'm going to implement it now ..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 28, 2014, 13:13:53
Quote from: gynta on April 25, 2014, 23:29:29
Idea
Add track wp in a faster way:
(http://s30.postimg.org/kkmo59gpp/add_quick_track_wp.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/kkmo59gpp/)

Hi,
I discuss this with Peter and we both do not like this idea, sorry. There is already too much settings and ways how to add points to tracks and we believe that fastest way over "Quick add point" is fast enough.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 29, 2014, 19:47:35
Locus 2.20.2.3
QuoteColorized button (colors same as in dialog) and in case panel will not have "auto-hiding", Locus won't display side button. I'm going to implement it
work nice :) Thanks
Track export ( .gpx  .kmz) do not work  :( only a short twitch of the display after click on export

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on April 30, 2014, 08:40:10
hmm you export to local KMZ/GPX file? Because I have absolutely no problem. So more info needed ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 30, 2014, 09:22:40
Hello menion,
in attached video first i export a single point of the track, i see the infowindow, the point is exported well :)
in secound step i try to export the complete track but nothing happen by click on export :(
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on April 30, 2014, 10:21:08
again a balloni file name conflict ? ;)
try to rename it
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 30, 2014, 11:35:08
Quote from: gynta on April 30, 2014, 10:21:08
again a balloni file name conflict ? ;)
try to rename it
@gynta, thanks for PM now i understand your post and you are right, if i delete - and : in filname the export work fine!
On the other hand:
- with locus pro the export work with this signs, and
- locus it selve create the date/time format and i only add a name :(
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on April 30, 2014, 13:14:47
Quote from: balloni55 on April 29, 2014, 19:47:35
Locus 2.20.2.3
Track export ( .gpx  .kmz) do not work  :( only a short twitch of the display after click on export

I noticed today the same with this version.
If I export a new made track with the pro version I receive the kmz on my PC as usual.
If I export (manually too) a track with this test version it is really exported to the DropBox server (I can see it in my export folder there and can download it manually) but it is not synced to my PC, so I did not receive this track.
I tried this on two smartphones with the same result.
The last version2.20.2.2 was ok because I made a track at 27.04.2014 which was correct exported.
These exported but not synced tracks are (after downloading manually) correct shown on Google Earth.

So I have no clue why they are not synced to my PC:-(

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 8.4.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on April 30, 2014, 16:28:00
Quote from: menion on April 27, 2014, 12:35:43@ta-ka: change of track profile during recording added.
Thank you very much.  Now, may I ask two improvements?
  - highlight current profile with red text as same as that in settings screen
  - show pop-up message "Profile '%s' set" after profile change as same as previous track recording system
It makes easy to know current profile and changed profile during track recording.

EDIT: one more thing.
If locus can create a launch shortcut with automatic start of track recording on android's home screen, it is possible to select:
  - tapping app icon -> launch locus normally
  - tapping shortcut -> launch locus with starting track recording
  - if track recording is already running, tapping app icon or shortcut just brings locus to foreground
How about this idea?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on April 30, 2014, 21:07:23
sorry for asking again :-[ but i get no answer.
QuoteAfter i start a track an unneeded window apeares ! if i click the record button i want to start recording, nothing else.
What is the advantage of a "count down" track-startbutton?
1.) what is the advantage of this window  at start moment? No info/values, needles klicks to start....
2.) What is the advantage of a "count down" track-startbutton?

a nearly perfect solution for me, without needles klicks, is gynta´s dashboard "gynta_rec.lb" from post #191
please add green/red/orange dot-status also to the dashboard button.


(http://s30.postimg.org/nbzwwhxkd/button.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/nbzwwhxkd/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on May 01, 2014, 13:57:15
@menion,

Quote from: tramp20 on April 30, 2014, 13:14:47

The last version2.20.2.2 was ok because I made a track at 27.04.2014 which was correct exported.
These exported but not synced tracks are (after downloading manually) correct shown on Google Earth.


I think I found the cause: you changed the naming format of the exported tracks :-(

1. The pro and the older test versions export this file name        2014-05-01_09-00-00 Grainbach (notice the blank) as
                                                                                            2014-05-01_09-00-00_Grainbach.kmz to DropBox.

2. The newest test version exports this file without a change as 2014-05-01_09:00:00 Grainbach.kmz.
    But if I download manually this file from Dropbox I get           2014-05-01_09_00_00 Grainbach.kmz

3. Both files are on Dropbox.com in the locus/export folder.

4. But only the file format                                                       2014-05-01_09-00-00_Grainbach.kmz is synced to my PC.

I am using Dropbox 2.6.31

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 01, 2014, 14:02:40
Yes
balloni has discovered this file name problem already here:
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg28828#msg28828

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 01, 2014, 14:28:17
Quote from: balloni55 on April 30, 2014, 21:07:23
After i start a track an unneeded window apeares ! if i click the record button i want to start recording, nothing else.
good point.

QuoteWhat is the advantage of this window  at start moment? No info/values, needles klicks to start..
possibility to quick change profile
possibility to change displayed units values
possibility to go to further settings
...even before you start
possibility to start with countdown

QuoteWhat is the advantage of a "count down" track-startbutton?
a gimmik for "high end" user  8)
annoying for "big fat finger normal user" :)

Quote...dashboard...please add green/red/orange dot-status also to the dashboard button.
I think that's not so easy :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on May 01, 2014, 14:54:07
Quote from: gynta on May 01, 2014, 14:02:40
Yes
balloni has discovered this file name problem already here:
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg28828#msg28828

Yes I read this now.
But it is not so simple :-)
The files are all exported to dropbox (in all formats) but only the older format is synced to the PC! It could be a faulty restriction in Dropbox, but Menion changed a long reliable format.

I needed a long time to find this out ;-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 01, 2014, 20:24:30
hmm damn, this whole change in export name was done because of this http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg28619#msg28619 , but seems it do not work perfectly. So please give me second chance to next test version.

And thanks gynta, you answered perfectly on all balloni questions :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: Bucky Kid on May 02, 2014, 10:27:34
Hello, I'm not sure if this wasn't already reported but computing navigation (MapQuest) in test version 2.20.2.3 is almost or maybe completely not functional. Progress dialog appears only for short while, then returns back to Navigate to... dialog (won't close). Tried more times and no time I was success to get navigation route. For comparison I let compute same route in latest public build 2.20.2 and got route right away on 1st attempt, so this must be problem of latest beta (betas). Used standard 3G network for this.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 02, 2014, 10:36:34
Thanks!! You're correct, there seems to be small issue in request on MapQuest server. Perfect, fixed
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on May 02, 2014, 11:14:40
Quote from: menion on May 01, 2014, 20:24:30
hmm damn, this whole change in export name was done because of this...,
but seems it do not work perfectly. So please give me second chance to next test version.


Again, all tracks are exported to Dropbox.com, but not all to the PC.

All files in my hardcopy from Dropbox.com with a underline between date/time and the name are synced, the other not.

(http://s27.postimg.org/idqtsuxzj/export_bug.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/idqtsuxzj/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 02, 2014, 19:36:56
My point of view about:
infos in exported POI, trackpoint and track-POI
POI:
the exported infos are ok, i only miss the koords ;)
(http://s28.postimg.org/63k6zv52x/Orange.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/63k6zv52x/)

Trackpoint:
all important infos from track are exported  :)
(http://s18.postimg.org/qql9sgufp/Trackpoint.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qql9sgufp/)

Track POI:
the additional discription get lost :-[
in my opinion all "details" should be exported, but not the "trackdetails"
(http://s29.postimg.org/50zg3t85f/Trackpoi.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/50zg3t85f/)

How do you think about it?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: wvb on May 02, 2014, 22:50:09
I would expect that an export is an exact copy of the original so it should contain all the info.

Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 02, 2014, 23:43:46
disable "Shading maps" has partly no effect.
see clip...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 29.4.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 07, 2014, 18:27:50
New test version 2.20.2.4

@balloni: agree that all details should be exported. I completely forget on this so I'll check it to next version
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Robin99 on May 08, 2014, 12:23:03
post moved to topic "Test version from GooglePlay over Google+"
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3867.msg29019#msg29019
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on May 08, 2014, 13:48:15
Menion
I like the new layout of the points Screen with its Sidebar. Only thing that I see that is not needed is the Web page link for the cache, That link is already on the Basic info page in under CACHE CODE

Edit
One other thing I noticed is the Settings button under Various heading is a global setting  (it's in the Pro version since a few versions back) and I can not see a use on an individual cache. But that is just my opinion, others may think differently. 
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 09, 2014, 09:54:55
Hello menion,
first impression of 2.20.2.4 ;)
- new GC-panel looks nice :)
i do not need  "webside" and i miss the "Hintbutton" in toppanel ::) one more klick !

- Export work (#170 and #204)
ö is changed to o, ü to u..., is it possilble to change it as used in german language, ä=ae, ö=oe, ü=ue??

- if i reimport a track with pois, locus split track and pois and store the track in data-track and the  pois in data-poi :(

- i have recorded a track and add a POI (red arrow) while driving on i attached a stored photo to this POI and saved it later (blue arrow). At this moment the trackline jump back to the POI-koords and then immediately to my current possition.

(http://s11.postimg.org/t7tpxehen/Trackattache.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/t7tpxehen/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Robin99 on May 09, 2014, 13:40:14
I agree with balloni55, geocache right panel is OK, but to insert there a "hint" button and "Log visit" button is not a good idea. First thing: there is one more tap to get to hint information or Log visit action.
Second: menu button is far far away from my thumb, and with large phone screen there is not easy to operate one hand (right).
Third: "hardware" menu button is not active.
I strong vote to bring back mentioned buttons to its old place.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 09, 2014, 13:47:22
We discuss a lot feedback from you (with Peter and Hanka), and do not agree at all with all what you write.

1. Problem of missing 'hint' button

In many cases I prefered (past time) less clicks (faster access) over usability and clean design. In this case I cannot agree. Everyone wants fast access to different features. Anyway all may be placed into nice side menu which is really fast to access from all tabs and where all core data are at once place. I was testing it in the field on around 15 caches and my experience was a lot better then with previous top menu. Access side menu by slide from side is really fast in the field during move and do it everytime I need to read hint or do something with a case, seems to be no problem. For me. I'm anyway still open for strong arguments against this.

2. Website button

It isn't 100% clear that tap on GC Code opens web side. Also you have to move to main tab. So I think it's not a big problem to have link in side menu.

Only change I did is move buttont that opens this side panel to top left corner where were before menu button. So on left side is again "Home" button to map screen. And robin thanks - hardware menu button is a good idea

@CaptKaos2: link to settings is to "Geocaching settings", which i think is usable mainly when you log a cache and you want's to change format or some other settings. And it's there since begin I think

@Balloni:
export texts - ah, oki, I'll try it :)
reimport of track - points are attached to track only in case, there is just one track.
problem with added point during record - thanks, I'll fix it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Robin99 on May 09, 2014, 14:30:30
"Everyone wants fast access to different features".
I agree, but there are more important and less important features during caching. In my opinion "hint" and "log visit" buttons are most important and should be placed in bottom buttons line on geocache screen instead of less important "map button". It would be perfect to decide myself which button (feature) should be placed on sidemenu and which on bottom buttons line. But I can imagine there is a much more work for you to make it configurable. I count on polling at least.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 09, 2014, 14:31:10
Quotereimport of track - points are attached to track only in case, there is just one track.
you are right, sorry my fault :-[
additional whish:
please make it possible to rename a file during import. 
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 09, 2014, 20:01:31
Does the "calculate surface" not show the colored surface anymore after calculation?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 09, 2014, 20:41:50
@Robin: understand. But this time, you'll not have it so easy :)

@balloni: no problem. This is something I have to think more about it. It's one of features that is not clear on first sight, so there will be probably need some additional settings. ( http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/import-gpx-file-containing-tracks-and-waypoints#comment-10240 )

And rename during IMPORT? may you please explain it a little bit?

@jusc: you use "Add new route & measure"? Then under "Tools" is checkbox "Compute area", that should enable visible value in top right corner and also colored area. This is what you miss?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 09, 2014, 20:57:36
Now that there is no need to register with google+ I downloaded the latest version and did a little test run today.
First things first - i love the new track record screen and also the geocaching side menu. I think it would be useful to be able to open the side menu with the menu button too, as it seems to have no other function at the moment anyway.
I am afraid i agree with the others though - the hint button and log cache button are used very often when caching and i didn´t see anything wrong with having them at the top. Although i guess i could get used to having them in the side menu ;-)

Bugs/Issues i found:
New track record screen:
- The height profile chart "flickers" sometimes - the diagram disappears and reappears and the text ("distance") moves up. I tried to make a screenshot but never caught the right moment
- Some of the settings have no German translations yet, but i guess you are aware of that.
- Rearranging the displayed information: It´s a bit complicated to swap two fields. One example: i want to swap "speed" and "Altitude", both have already been assigned to a field. I click on the "speed" field and then select "altitude", but get the message "item altitude already exists". So i have to use an item that is not assigned as an extra step to be able to swap them.
- There is not enough space to display the german word for "speed" in the height profile diagram
- On the left hand side of the height diagram you have one height (e.g. 400m), but it would be useful to have at least two, otherwise you can´t tell how steep an incline really is (see screenshot).

- When clicking on a track that´s too low down on the screen, the menu opens but is cut off and some buttons can´t be reached (it´s not possible to scroll down either) (see second screenshot)

Feature requests:
- Could you make it possible to display only the height and not the speed in the track record/track diagram? I don´t need the speed (red) and it just makes it harder to read the height diagram.
- Can i somehow define different symbols for added points during track recording? e.g. have the photo symbol when taking a picture? I know i can choose it each time i create a point, but it would be great to assign a different symbol for each type of point (picture, audio,video).
- Using the dashboard editor i can get the "create point during track record" button back on the main screen - would it be possible to also add the "picture point" button in the dashboard editor so i can have that one back too?

Edit:.
In  Track record screen settings -> count of visible items the setting "12" doesn´t do anything, all the others work though.
Edit2:
Little inconsistency in the new geocaching screen - to add a waypoint you now have to open the side bar. To add an attachment you still have to use the + button at the top. I think that´s not very intuitive.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 09, 2014, 20:57:40
Ahh, no I used a downloaded round trip. It calculates, but doesn't show the colored surface.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 09, 2014, 21:16:48
@eldron: thaaanks, I have to read it more precisely tomorrow. After just first few lines - menu button in GC screen is already implemented and opens side menu ;). More tomorrow

@jusc: then it never filled area with color. You have to define style of track and enable filling in it's style configuration
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 09, 2014, 21:25:29
Ok, thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 10, 2014, 02:00:59
@Menion
Any chance to focus the discussion about new versions back onto one place? It doesn´t help to have some of it here and some in the Google group.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 10, 2014, 14:41:30
QuoteAnd rename during IMPORT? may you please explain it a little bit?
ok, i ll try it ;)
if i import/reimport a track i found no possibility to remame this file inside locus and so it is not easy to distinguish which is the original and which is the imported.

(http://s13.postimg.org/ssm7qajnn/Rename.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ssm7qajnn/)
explanation: i prefere it more to use the reimported tracks with poi´s, the attached photos are displayed direct in  basic view of the poi and larger :) minimum 2 clicks less 8)

While playing with Test and Pro i found a different behavior:
if i go to Data/Tracks/any Subfolder and click" backbutton" in Test it open "POI tab" :(
different in Pro, it open as expected "Track tab" :D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Stargaterunner on May 10, 2014, 23:05:47
Problem in Geocache module:
In the beta 2.20.2.4 if I use "update cache" in the logs screen, i will never see the actual new entries. I must close the screen to map and must reopen the cache to see the new entries...this must be fixed. In the regulary pro version i have not this problem.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 11, 2014, 02:07:03
hidden point info/menu:
(http://s11.postimg.org/guahukdvj/hidden.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/guahukdvj/)

wrong width:
(http://s1.postimg.org/vwdb51j3v/beep.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vwdb51j3v/)

cutted pos.point in chart:
(http://s13.postimg.org/k49q7jmkj/cut.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/k49q7jmkj/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 11, 2014, 02:26:41
record panel:
see 11 checkmarks but in menu are only 7 fields
see clip..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 11, 2014, 09:18:32
Quote from: gynta on May 11, 2014, 02:26:41
record panel:
see 11 checkmarks in menu but only 7 fields
see clip..
Have you tried the "count of visible items setting"?
It works for me, apart from the highest setting (12).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 11, 2014, 10:18:06
@eldron: main discussion remains here. On G+ will be probably some discussion with people that do not use forum, but if you want discuss something in future about test versions, this is correct place.

@Stargaterunner: thanks for report. This is anyway known problem with using test versions that currently have no solution - more here http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/update-of-a-geocache-dont-display-new-waypoints

@gynta: thanks!
1) hidden menu - it already reported balloni if I remember correctly, but I have currently no idea how to fix it.

2) layout in notification settings - fixed

3) chart - added small padding to top, so fixed.

@balloni: I think that rename of file will not help here. Please check content of GPX file. I think that at start will be <name>xxx</name> parameter where is defined name of track visible after import.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 11, 2014, 10:23:48
@menion
hidden menu - how about making the popup menu scrollable? Like that you could at least get to the rest of the buttons.
Have you had a chance to look at the rest of my bug report? I edited it twice to add some more points to it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 11, 2014, 10:29:13
problem is that this menu is generated by Android itself, not me. I only say content, but not how it looks and behave. In previous versions of Android library it worked correctly, but now it seems to do some troubles. When I'll have time later, I'll try to rewrite it by my own, but for now I think it's not a big problem
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 11, 2014, 12:30:16
QuoteI think that rename of file will not help here. Please check content of GPX file. I think that at start will be <name>xxx</name> parameter where is defined name of track visible after import.
you are right,
is it possible to manage it similar to this

(http://s23.postimg.org/fs9s0on5j/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fs9s0on5j/)
EDIT:
or count up "name_001", "name_002" .....
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 11, 2014, 12:37:38
Quote from: eldron on May 11, 2014, 09:18:32
Quote from: gynta on May 11, 2014, 02:26:41
record panel: I see 11 only 7 fields
Have you tried the "count of visible items setting"?
It works for me, apart from the highest setting (12).
Has no effect here...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 11, 2014, 18:38:17
you see 7 items on dashboard, but dashboard may totally contain up to 12 items. So in list of available items are checked all already defined items in all 12 views (even if they are not visible).

If you set only 4 items to view and all since 5 to 12 will be hidden, then if I clear them, you loose it's settings and you will have to set them again if you display more then 4 items. If you understand :). So because of this, I keep settings of all 12 items and not only a visible.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 11, 2014, 22:10:54
 ::)
Menion - read my lips: "12" has no effect
;)


edit add clip..
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 12, 2014, 12:36:27
ah oki, so wait to next version please, thanks :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 12, 2014, 14:54:03
I found that the tab of track recording panel appears wrong place when dash board is shown and track recording panel is hidden.
Locus 2.20.2.4.

(http://s1.postimg.org/nddy8utkb/track_recording_tab.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/nddy8utkb/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 12, 2014, 14:56:58
ah nice, thanks ta-ka
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 12, 2014, 17:13:57
Quote from: menion on May 12, 2014, 12:36:27
ah oki, so wait to next version please, thanks :)
(http://www.oldboys.at/dl/locus/smileys/knock.gif)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 13, 2014, 00:55:57
nice ... :), check version and we will see
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 13, 2014, 08:00:19
Hello menion,
update worked perfect ;)
after first start i changed in trackrecord panel/settings to 12.
since this time locus freece.  :-\
After new start of locus i cannot open trackrecord to change in settings back and locus didnt work and freece again.
How can i change this setting? only with new instalation of betaversion?
Device newstart didnt help
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 13, 2014, 08:03:18
gynta, eldron and few others ... I received emails with few crashes of new testing version, but from there logs isn't clear where and why error happen. If you find any reason for this, please write me more. Thanks

... ah during time I write this message, balloni answered. Amazing ... mnt, I'm going to check it. Except this, no other problems?

EDIT: issue fixed. You should be anyway able to change it directly in menu > setting > track record.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 13, 2014, 08:30:03
Quote from: menion on May 13, 2014, 08:03:18... with few crashes.... Except this, no other problems?
' don't know because Locus crash ;) lets try again... brb
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 13, 2014, 08:31:34
hmm but this happen only when you set '12' items for track record panel and this value may be changed in settings!

EDIT: but I see some other crashes, and don't know why this happen. So maybe this is what you are talking about - "because Locus crash"?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 7.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 13, 2014, 08:52:35
Hi menion,
great job on the geocaching point screen - Nice to have my hint and log button back at the bottom and the right side slide in makes it easier to control it with your thumb (if you are right handed ;-) ).How about being able to open the slide-in menu with the hardware menu button too?
I can confirm the app crash when setting count of visible items to 12. When i first set it to 12 locus crashed whilst i was still in the settings menu. After restarting locus i clicked on "track record" but it didn´t open. I was able to continue using locus for ~15 seconds before it crashed. After setting it back to "10" I had no further crashes.

In the change log it says "added ability to define various base parameters for charts in dashboard" - where can i do so? I would like to deactivate the speed profile (red chart), as i don´t need it and it makes it harder to read the height profile (blue).

Also some of the points from my last post still apply:
Quote from: eldron on May 09, 2014, 20:57:36
Bugs/Issues i found:
New track record screen:
- Rearranging the displayed information: It´s a bit complicated to swap two fields. One example: i want to swap "speed" and "Altitude", both have already been assigned to a field. I click on the "speed" field and then select "altitude", but get the message "item altitude already exists". So i have to use an item that is not assigned as an extra step to be able to swap them. How about allowing to untick an item so that you can easily assign it to a different field?
- On the left hand side of the height diagram you have one height (e.g. 400m), but it would be useful to have at least two, otherwise you can´t tell how steep an incline really is (see screenshot).

Feature requests:
- Can i somehow define different symbols for added points during track recording? e.g. have the photo symbol when taking a picture? I know i can choose it each time i create a point, but it would be great to assign a different symbol for each type of point (picture, audio,video).
- Using the dashboard editor i can get the "create point during track record" button back on the main screen - would it be possible to also add the "picture point" button in the dashboard editor so i can have that one back too?
Also there is a little inconsistency in the new geocaching screen - to add a waypoint you now have to open the side bar (although on screen it still says "press + to add a waypoint"). To add an attachment you still have to use the + button at the top.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 13, 2014, 08:58:55
Quote from: menion on May 13, 2014, 08:31:34
hmm but this happen only when you set '12' items for track record panel and this value may be changed in settings! EDIT: but I see some other crashes, and don't know why this happen. So maybe this is what you are talking about - "because Locus crash"?
i know. i know...
Wait a little - no panic :)
Think that was a combination of record button - crash -  no finished record and restart..
but im not finished with testing yet - i will post here.

btw.
dashboard editor ignores "resize by top panel"
("resize by bottom panel" not testet)
edit
After select a track first time - the dashboard shrinks and it works
(http://s29.postimg.org/ygc71c83n/before.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ygc71c83n/) (http://s29.postimg.org/4cxo9e4ub/after.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4cxo9e4ub/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 13, 2014, 11:36:45
QuoteYou should be anyway able to change it directly in menu > setting > track record.
thanks, no more crash with setting lower "12"
QuoteWhile playing with Test and Pro i found a different behavior:
if i go to Data/Tracks/any Subfolder and click" backbutton" in Test it open "POI tab" :(
different in Pro, it open as expected "Track tab"
no answer :o no improvement :-[
QuoteNice to have my hint and log button back at the bottom
Congratulation!!! :) perfect solution with settings :-*

EDIT:
QuoteTrack POI:
the additional discription get lost :-[
Quote@balloni: agree that all details should be exported. I completely forget on this so I'll check it to next version
no improvement
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 13, 2014, 12:27:40
Hi Menion.

In Locus 2.20.2.5, it requires 5 taps to change the recording profile while track recording is going on. I say it is too many. A very nice quick profile changer is already implemented at the bottom of the recording panel however it is available only before starting the track recording.
Could you please make it available also during track recording? I really want this function. Please think about it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 13, 2014, 12:51:47
thanks all for a feedback. Today I work with Peter on server so all will be work on tomorrow (also a fixed version). Anyway just a quick note to ta-ka: I'm 99% sure, that current solution is enough. Why you need change profile during a ride so often?

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 13, 2014, 13:21:28
In the change log it says "added ability to define various base parameters for charts in dashboard" - where can i do so? I would like to deactivate the speed profile (red chart), as i don´t need it and it makes it harder to read the height profile (blue).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 13, 2014, 13:23:57
it's possible only for a chart in dashboard. Not in track record panel. Style of items in track record panel will be fixed, not configurable. So there is just currently need to setup some default values for two possible charts that may be placed to track record panel.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 13, 2014, 13:46:49
highes pos is still cut...

(http://s30.postimg.org/4nxt4r1gt/2014_05_13_134211.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4nxt4r1gt/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 13, 2014, 14:12:09
I know, it's same with POI icons. I have to force there some minimal padding. Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 13, 2014, 14:14:12
wrong icon?! if i click on it mapview open and not data, in pro there is a "house icon"

(http://s29.postimg.org/n2pr17mkj/DATA.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/n2pr17mkj/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 13, 2014, 14:29:27
Quote from: menion on May 13, 2014, 12:51:47
Anyway just a quick note to ta-ka: I'm 99% sure, that current solution is enough. Why you need change profile during a ride so often?

When I go for an outdoor activity, I usually start and stop track recording at home to record everything and the track is kept as a original data in locus. For example, track recording is started with 'car' profile and changed to 'foot' when arrived at the start of a mountain trail, then changed to 'car' again after hiking for return trip. Changing profile according to the moving speed gives better recording results. So, it is favorable if locus provide an easy way to do it during recording.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 13, 2014, 14:33:05
Quote from: menion on May 13, 2014, 13:23:57
it's possible only for a chart in dashboard. Not in track record panel. Style of items in track record panel will be fixed, not configurable. So there is just currently need to setup some default values for two possible charts that may be placed to track record panel.
And how do i edit the settings for the dashboard chart? couldn´t find it anywhere.
@Gynta
How did you record that video clip that you attached earlier in this thread? I found a little bug in Locus that is best shown in a video clip. Do I have to use an extra app for that?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 13, 2014, 14:35:48
dashboard charts
(http://s18.postimg.org/8lyldzl5x/2014_05_13_135027.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8lyldzl5x/)

edit
@eldron
app is called "screencast" (for rooted devices)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 13, 2014, 15:34:41
In the edit screen of the quick new point, base line is not aligned well and it looks not nice.

(http://s21.postimg.org/4m07rit0j/quick_new_point.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4m07rit0j/)

EDIT:
'Point count' and 'Track width' in the recording profile, the shown values are zero for new installation.

(http://s12.postimg.org/ylcfanno9/recording_profile.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ylcfanno9/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 13, 2014, 19:57:30
Quoteadded ability to choose if merge points with single track during import or not

(http://s21.postimg.org/3y4a4jp43/merge.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3y4a4jp43/)
perhaps i missunderstand this function ???
while importing a track with including POI´s (merged) i am not able to "merge" anything else, if i uncheck the box i am able to split track and POI´s during import.
So for me it make more sense "split points and track" and change the logic :-\
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 14, 2014, 07:51:08
@eldron: thanks, all done, fixed, improved, etc :)

@gynta:
- moving dashboard right after you show it fixed
- your location and POI's on top of chart should be also better now. I have added there always some small padding so there should be enough space now
- and "Dashboard charts" - don't understand. There is no possible description. These two chart items are there only to allow you to add two charts on screen at once (with possible different parameters)

@balloni:
- return from sub-track-folder fixed
- POI description - I found a bigger problem. When you write own desc for track point, it's lost during save and rewrote by track stats. So I fixed this, so track statisticks will be added to POI only if there will be no your own description. This is anyway not a final solution. I plan better, but for this I need new track screen, so later.
- wrong icon - ah thanks, it's old icon from previous left side panel, fixed
- and last "merge points to track" - I think you are not right. There do not exists something like file with merged points to track. There is just GPX/KML file, that contains some tracks and some points. There is no info they are merged. So by default, all these files has separate tracks and points. So Locus now offer possibility to merge them (which was previously always enabled)

@ta-ka: understand. But
1. I think that for most users this is not needed. And difference between 3 and 5 clicks rarely per day is really small
2. I prefer in this case less feature and add them later if needed

- problems in settings and 'Quick point' fixed, thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 14, 2014, 08:12:18
Quote from: menion on May 14, 2014, 07:51:08@gynta... "Dashboard charts".... to allow you to add two charts on screen at once (with possible different parameters)
Ah ok - I thought there are 2 different predefined parameters.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 14, 2014, 08:37:55
QuoteThere is just GPX/KML file, that contains some tracks and some points. There is no info they are merged. So by default, all these files has separate tracks and points.
Thanks for explanation, i thought if POI´s and track are stored in same .kmz they are "merged" ???
QuoteSo Locus now offer possibility to merge them (which was previously always enabled)
please discribe the benefit/advantage/differece of this import option
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 14, 2014, 08:40:49
@Menion
Looking forward to the next release of the test version :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 14, 2014, 08:42:29
I think that benefits are two - one is that you can show/hide all points together with track. There is no need to enable track and a few points from any folder. They are just "attached". Also if you export and already computed track with navigation points, it's needed to import them "merged", because Locus needs to have these points directly "in" track.

Only disadvantage I see in previous "automatic" system, was fact, that it wasn't clear what Locus do and people that know what they import, expect points and one track, not just one track (and attached point), so this new checkbox give you this choice.

I'm not 100% sure that this "merging" is best solution. It's how I created it a few years ago and it still seems to work. Without this, there will be need to specify some separate folder for every track, that will contain points, or just handle them completely separate.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 14, 2014, 09:39:40
menion, thanks for detailed discription 8)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 14, 2014, 10:37:30
In window "add waypoint" the pencil is back and the behavior clicking the koords is different to other windows

(http://s27.postimg.org/5ae907d8f/pencil.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5ae907d8f/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 14, 2014, 11:09:16
this panel for editing coordinates isn't "back" in correct word meaning. It's in Locus for a long time, but it's optional (over config file).

Anyway what is wrong with it? Maybe icon should be better (icon of 'Coordinates') and not this one.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 14, 2014, 11:12:45
Dashboard > chart > display label/title

"Altitude (m) / Altitude (m)" means?
(http://s29.postimg.org/xtgjr561f/2014_05_14_110821.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xtgjr561f/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 14, 2014, 11:14:07
eh interesting, there should be "Distance (m) / Altitude (m)", thanks :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 14, 2014, 11:30:08
Quote from: menion on May 14, 2014, 11:09:16
this panel for editing coordinates isn't "back" in correct word meaning. It's in Locus for a long time, but it's optional (over config file).
Anyway what is wrong with it? Maybe icon should be better (icon of 'Coordinates') and not this one.
sorry for my imprecise discription,
for comparison, screenshot pro

(http://s10.postimg.org/l27y06eph/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/l27y06eph/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 14, 2014, 11:40:31
no need to sorry, but now I undertand less then before :)

(http://s24.postimg.org/tqk2azewx/device_2014_05_14_113752.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tqk2azewx/)

If you need to insert coordinates directly, you may, as I wrote before, set in config that locus display always this panel (my screenshot).

And because I think that when you add new waypoint to cache, you need in 90% add point by coordinates, I enabled this panel for new waypoints by default.

And now my question - I don't understand what is wrong with this button :). Anyway I may change it to different (probably for icon - tap 'target' icon below > 'Coordinates')
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 14, 2014, 14:30:04
QuoteI don't understand what is wrong with this button
nothing is wrong ;) only different
Quotebut now I undertand less then before
same by me.. total confusion :-[
After long reading and searching i found our different point of view.
Your screenshot is with configsetting gui_coordinate_panel_advanced_mode=1
coords are always displayed in 2 lines with icons "pencil" and "target"

my screenshot in post #276 is with configsetting i always use!gui_coordinate_panel_advanced_mode=0
coords are always displayed in 1 line with icon "target"


different in testversion "add WP"  coords in 2 lines and both icons.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 14, 2014, 17:26:34
Quote from: menion on May 14, 2014, 07:51:08
@ta-ka: understand. But
1. I think that for most users this is not needed. And difference between 3 and 5 clicks rarely per day is really small
2. I prefer in this case less feature and add them later if needed
I understood too. Thanks for remaining a bit of hope.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 14, 2014, 18:43:51
Quote from: ta-ka on May 14, 2014, 17:26:34
Quote from: menion on May 14, 2014, 07:51:08
@ta-ka: understand. But ...and add them later if needed
I understood too. Thanks for remaining a bit of hope.
Hey ta-ka
Please start new response on http://help.locusmap.eu/ and i will vote (http://www.oldboys.at/dl/locus/smileys/thumbsup.gif)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 14, 2014, 21:55:43
After few minutes of track record - the altitude values disappears.
(http://s4.postimg.org/dg23o45dl/2014_05_14_214837.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dg23o45dl/)

edit
see clip second 31

btw.
It makes me nervous when the pos.point is jumping around :)
(see clip second 8, 10, 13, 18)
Can you fix the point - in this example on the right side - last distance pos.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 15, 2014, 03:59:36
Quote from: gynta on May 14, 2014, 18:43:51
Hey ta-ka
Please start new response on http://help.locusmap.eu/ and i will vote (http://www.oldboys.at/dl/locus/smileys/thumbsup.gif)
Hi, gynta.
I've posted a new response with the title 'Quickly change recording profile while track recording is going on'.
Thanks in advance for your vote :D

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 15, 2014, 18:16:58
Uf this new testing versions was hard one. More then a day with only optimizing. Hope you will feel small difference in speed. Vector maps on my device run almost about 20% faster on some zoom level. Generaly whole Locus should now use less CPU and also a little less memory. We will see if such changes do not cause any troubles.

And btw. those who want's experiment, try to display map with rotation and play with it (mainly finger zoom). And then try to change new 'DEV' parameter in config ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Bucky Kid on May 15, 2014, 18:56:18
Uf this new version is not available at all. Is my internet delayed or does it take so long to update Play store?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 15, 2014, 19:00:00
please wait, it takes up to two hours usually ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: berkley on May 15, 2014, 20:05:55
No changes to widget?  :'(
Or do I have to uninstall Pro version?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 15, 2014, 20:31:27
Matthias I wrote you over ICQ that I cannot do with it anything now. I needs more then set one parameter. I have to discuss it with my graphics, create some design template and implement it. It should take quite a long because I currently do not want to invest much time into this. Current widget works, so there is no big reason to make it better right now, sorry.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: berkley on May 15, 2014, 20:41:23
OK, btw longest testing thread ever  ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 15, 2014, 21:47:22
I have not read the comments before testing but came here to write that there must have been some wizardry with the maps as they are considerably faster!! (vector)
Many many thanks, this really affects usability in a positive way :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 15, 2014, 22:10:00
Thanks for the new test version, looking good.
But can someone explain to me how this works:
- added ability to move dashboard items in track record panel (long click)
??
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 15, 2014, 22:31:46
Quote from: eldron on May 15, 2014, 22:10:00
But can someone explain to me how this works:
- added ability to move dashboard items in track record panel (long click)??
?
As Menion wrote:
choose item -> hold item (long click) -> move item

nice btw...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 15, 2014, 22:48:18
Hi Gynta
i tried that, but when i long click the item it opens the selecion screen...?
Or am i in the wrong place? We are talking about the screen that opens when you click the "track record button", right?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 15, 2014, 23:13:14
Quote from: eldron on May 15, 2014, 22:48:18
i tried that, but when i long click the item it opens the selecion screen...?

(http://www.oldboys.at/dl/locus/smileys/rolleyes.gif)
You forgot to move...

edit
see clip


Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 15, 2014, 23:23:27
@Gynta
thanks for the video. That´s exactly how i tried it (on my device and not in a VM), but it doesn´t work.
Double checked that i had the right version installed and restarted the app, but no luck...
Have you tried it on your device or only in the VM?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 15, 2014, 23:25:28
on both...

btw.
can't see your device in your profile
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 15, 2014, 23:40:47
I am using a Galaxy i8160 (Ace2).
Restarted the phone but that didn´t help either. I have been trying for a while now, but can´t move the items. If i try to move it nothing happens and if i click for too long before moving my finger the selection screen opens.
Really don´t understand what i am doing wrong here.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 15, 2014, 23:50:12
Quote from: eldron on May 15, 2014, 23:40:47...using a Galaxy i8160 (Ace2).
maybe thats the point.
and your os version?

Are you also not able to switch items in the "quick switch" screen?
http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200004072-Quick-Switch


btw
plz edit your profile
sometimes that's a important info for menion
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 15, 2014, 23:59:14
@szebenyib: you're welcome :). One day of work. This is anyway max I can do. Now most of time is no reading of data from map file, so now it's a problem of format and not a library itself.

@eldron: drag & drop here, as well as on other places, works only since A3.0. So if you use older 2.X version, then sorry, I have no solution for you.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 16, 2014, 00:04:34
 Added device to profile.
I am on android 2.3.6, so that's where the problem lies.
Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 16, 2014, 00:13:37
sure, you are welcome.

In this case, you also miss draw & drop in major dashboard, quick add point, "Get location" screen and some other places. But I'm sure you won't stay with 2.X forewer

So seems there is no serious problem with this version so I can go finally sleep. Good night ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 16, 2014, 08:29:31
Quote from: gynta on May 15, 2014, 23:13:14

You forgot to move...

edit
see clip
Hi gynta, thanks for opening my eyes with your video 8)
for me it is awkward  to change the displayed parameter,
and sometimes impossible, see video

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 16, 2014, 08:56:56
hmm yes, this is a small issue. Your charts are probably already placed in any of hidden items (you have visible only 8 of them)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 16, 2014, 09:19:48
one wish, one problem with "TrackPOI"
wish:
in #270you wrote
Quoteso track statisticks will be added to POI only if there will be no your own description.
is it possible to add default a placeholder in discriptionfield, i never want track statistic in POI?

problem:
during trackrecording i add a POI and a short discription "airport" 8)
After the tour i edit the discription "view on the airport of ..." and save it, the changed disciption is displayed :D
if i export the track with changed discription there is "airport" displayed :(
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 16, 2014, 09:34:27
Quote from: menion on May 16, 2014, 08:56:56
hmm yes, this is a small issue. Your charts are probably already placed in any of hidden items (you have visible only 8 of them)
You are right, if i display all 12 items i can change it.
It would be more handy to deselect/uncheck unused items with longclick in selection menue
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Bucky Kid on May 16, 2014, 09:38:12
Having dev_enable_accelerated_map_rendering ON, rendering vector map is quite fast but don't notice rapidly increased speed. Maybe little. Under some condition while having this HW thingy ON zooming in or out the map only zooms the overlay while the map self remains intact (ie. no refresh). After opening points screen and back map redrawing is restored. This means there may be a hidden bug not rendering the map (or is bug in my GPU hardware).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 16, 2014, 11:06:41
whoaa guys is this true? http://phandroid.com/2014/05/15/google-play-paypal/ ... cannot test it in Czech, as usually.

@balloni: ah thank, there is also a problem with correct icons when you hide/show track again. Both (also edited description) fixed

- dashboard in track record panel - I'll try to think about it. Agree that what happen to you is confusing ...

@Bucky kid: major difference is during rotation and finger zoom. Anyway problem with rendering - thanks, I'll try to simulate it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 16, 2014, 14:49:48
@Menion
I would Update my phone instantly, if there was a stable and well working Version.
The official 4.1.2 is not really stable and I am not sure how good the inofficial Cyanogemod port is - and how safe...
But that´s my problem and not yours ;-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: tommi on May 16, 2014, 15:07:50
Hi Menion, completely different problem, which is I guess easy to fix:
1. Select a point, let's say at 48N, 11W.
2. Touch the puzzle part
3. Touch > Map apps? (German Kartenanwenungen)
4. Touch Navigator (don't know if you have installed this app)
5. Navigator shows you the location 11N, 48E instead of 48N, 11W
This worked in older versions of either Locus or Navigator (I think Navigator has changed it's behaviour).
Could you fix that? Would be kind, because I think it's cumbersome to get it fixed from Navigator app team.

One more question: Why do I have to use 2. and 3.? One of them should be enough to get the list of Map apps. Or do you plan to add further menu items behind the puzzle part?

Thanks,
Tommi
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 16, 2014, 17:10:23
hello Tommi,

with this you really have to go to "Navigator" developers. If I change order of this "geo" request, then it won't work on older version of their app and also when they fix it, on new versions. So it really make no sense to change correct behaviour of Locus. Hope you understand
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 17, 2014, 15:16:41
Hello. I send something I've noticed.

Quote from: ta-ka on May 13, 2014, 15:34:41'Point count' and 'Track width' in the recording profile, the shown values are zero for new installation.
- The problems are still there in Locus Test 2.20.2.6.
- Track width is shown with decimal number but only integer number is accepted to modify it. For example, '6' instead of '6.0'.
(http://s21.postimg.org/frzmj1vgz/track_recording.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/frzmj1vgz/)

- Because the last recording profile can not be removed, there is no way to bring back default profiles(Foot/Cycle/Car).

- Tab of the track recording panel appears at around the middle of left edge. It happens when software keyboard is opened (for example, search Address & Place) while track recording is working.
(http://s28.postimg.org/lzo8i4jex/recording_panel_tab.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lzo8i4jex/)

- Icon is not shown properly in weather panel. I think the icon can be simply removed.
(http://s27.postimg.org/87etvx9kf/weather.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/87etvx9kf/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 17, 2014, 20:59:35
I did a longer field test today (5 hour caching tour) with the latest test version.
Absolutely love the new track record screen! So handy to have all the information about the current trip on one screen.
Also loved the fact that now the points created during track record have the right symbols (e.g. photo symbol for photo point).
I did have one problem with the points though: When creating a new point (during track record or normal waypoint), I used to be able to delete it by pressing the menu button and selecting delete. When i now press the menu button the screen darkens, but no menu opens. Is this again connected to me using Android 2.3.6? It worked fine in older versions.It´s just a bit annoying, as i can´t delete a Waypoint from within the point screen anymore.
And there is still an issue with the height chart in the track record screen. On the left hand side I can see the altitude values, but sometimes there is just one, sometimes three (even though there is not enough space for 3, so you can´t read them properly). Any chance to improve the placement of those values?

Other than that the test version worked absolety fine and without any crashes. Oh and being able to reach the hint and log cache button with one click was great too ;-)
I also played around with the POI alert and realized that the vibration is automatically deactivated when you choose a sound. Would it be possible to use both at the same time?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: wvb on May 18, 2014, 07:11:25
I posted this on Google+ but since I'm not sure if that was the correct place I'll post it here too
:-)

Quote:
This is the first beta I installed from the 2.20.2.x series.

I really like the new trackrecording screen!
Garmin maps rendering is also clearly improved.

I did notice an issue with Field Notes showing the wrong timestamp (today instead of existing).
Steps to reproduce:
- open Geocache with existing Field Note
- click the button on top right
- click Log visit
- click existing Field Note
- click Store offline
then you will notice the TIME field has current date and time and not the one that was originally stored...

Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 18, 2014, 07:27:58
@ta-ka: I do not understand, why such problems with settings happen to you :/. When you add new profile, it has these 0 values for 'num of points' and 'track width'? Also with track width - there should be able to set decimal number, it's not limited to integer values.

- restoring default profiles - I believe this is not necessary. Default profiles are just suggestions, it's not needed to use them. You can also set them manually - they are here at bottom: http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200039002

- jumping tab - you found bigger problem. When keyboard appear, whole layout height is reduced to fit new screen size. I have fixed this, because it's unwanted behaviour on map screen. Thanks!

- weather icon - thanks, also fixed

@eldron: glad you like it, me too :). 5 hours testing, nice. I did yesterday also one small and found few small issues with logging a field notes and also with correct storing of icons of points attached to track. Both will be fixed in next version.

- "Menu button" - change to grey when you tap on "menu" is caused by side menu, that appear only when point is cache and here is empty :). Issue - fixed. Anyway delete button was always at bottom panel, so tap there on last "arrow up" button and at bottom is "Delete" button.

- Labels on Y axis of charts - I've improved it a little, so it should be better now

@wvb: I read also posts on G+, no worry. I just hope that today will be better weather here, so I'll spend few hours with testing out on bike and I also plan to test this issue.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 18, 2014, 08:36:16
@menion
Looking at the times of your posts-when do you sleep??
I was not talking about deleting a cache, that still works. I meant a point created during track record (for example a picture point) or a point created from the side bar-quick New point our normal point doesn't matter.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 18, 2014, 08:55:02
I sleep around 5-6 hours, so somewhere between :)

I know you talk about basic points. I just wanted to say that when you open a geocache, then by "menu" button you open side menu with list of options. In basic point, there is no such menu, but "menu" button still opens this side panel (menu). But this time, menu is empty, so you see only dark screen. Anyway I already solved this issue at morning, thanks!

And deleting point directly from track - I think it's possible only when you store a track, not during a ride, but I have to check it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 18, 2014, 17:46:51
Quote from: ta-ka on May 13, 2014, 15:34:41
'Point count' and 'Track width' in the recording profile, the shown values are zero for new installation.

Quote from: menion on May 18, 2014, 07:27:58
@ta-ka: I do not understand, why such problems with settings happen to you :/.
My explanation was too short. 'for new installation' means brand-new Locus installation to device.
So, new Locus users will face the problem. That's what I worry about.
Please follow the steps below to reproduce the issue.
1) remove or rename Locus folder in /mnt/sdcard
2) uninstall and install LocusTest or just invoke 'Reset preferences' in settings menu
3) check 'Point count' and 'Track width' in recording profile

Quote from: menion
When you add new profile, it has these 0 values for 'num of points' and 'track width'?
Nono. This works without problem.

Quote from: menion
Also with track width - there should be able to set decimal number, it's not limited to integer values.
I'm sorry I was wrong :'(   I tried again and confirmed decimal numbers are accepted.
I don't know why it wasn't... even I had double checked.

Quote from: menion
- restoring default profiles - I believe this is not necessary. Default profiles are just suggestions, it's not needed to use them. You can also set them manually - they are here at bottom: http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200039002
I see. I've reported it because it's possible to retrieve default profiles in current Pro version.
Then, that's fine for me. I'm able to configure recording profiles as I want. And thanks for the link to the manual page.

Quote from: menion
- jumping tab - you found bigger problem. When keyboard appear, whole layout height is reduced to fit new screen size. I have fixed this, because it's unwanted behaviour on map screen. Thanks!
Ah, I didn't think screen height change was already a problem. ;)

Quote from: menion
- weather icon - thanks, also fixed
Good.

I went hiking today with Locus Test 2.20.2.6 enabling 12 items in the recording panel including two charts. There was no Locus crash during 9 hours of track recording. New recording panel is really good :D ... well, for me, except profile change during track recording ... I found that it needs 7 taps in total. (5 taps to change profile + 2 taps to go back to map)
@all:
Anyone who is interested in on the fly recording profile change, please vote (http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/quickly-change-recording-profile-while-track-recording-is-going-on).

Finally, I report one issue about chart view of the tracks in DB. For some tracks, automatic x-axis scaling is activated in normal chart screen. I haven't found yet the exact conditions to reproduce it but it seems to happen if position of track point of the track and current GPS position is very near.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Raddino on May 18, 2014, 20:44:54
Is this version release candidate? I don't mind new side menu, but I really miss one-click hint and fieldnote :-(

edit
After i tried new option in menu (it is possible it's there for a long time)
Body zajmu, i downloaded about 5Mb and this appeared.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/19/jy7azudu.jpg)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 18, 2014, 22:14:04
@ta-ka: thanks. I'll check settings precisely tomorrow. I agree that this is really serious problem for new users so it have to be set correctly for them.

I also had a problem with chart for common track, but I completely forget on this, so thanks for remind!

@Raddino:
1) quick buttons in screen with geocache detail, will be possible in settings > geoaching (at bottom)
2) "Body zájmu" - it's advanced feature planned on July/August probably (we are little in time pressure not so it will take longer then expected). What is in Locus is just testing, so ignore it ...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 19, 2014, 07:59:05
I tested yesterday first time track recording with new track buttons (http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3919.msg29309#msg29309)  while cycling. For me it was not handy. The very small green button isn´t usefull while you are cycling. Even if you stop and try to pull the button for opening the track menu it´s hard for your fingers to hit the target. :(
In older version you had only to tap on the "Pause" or "Stop" Button. That worked for me without any problems.
Isn´t it possible to add 3 transparent buttons ( "Pause" "Stop" and "Quickpoint") to the left or bottom like in Gyntas screenshot, without using a dashboard?
I think I saw it some test versions before?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 19, 2014, 08:25:25
Sorry jusc, but this is not possible.

If you need big buttons for track record on screen, why you don't want to use dashboard just with these three buttons?

Also you had previous track record panel on the screen for a whole time? If not, then you always had to tap on "Track record" button in right panel (or in menu) and then on required button. It's same here.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on May 19, 2014, 11:50:03
@menion,
can I remind you that the automatic backup does not really work?
After a reboot the automatic backup is broken but after an update of the test version it works after all :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 19, 2014, 14:08:58
yes I know - neverwnding problems with this feature. I keep this topic in mind ( http://help.locusmap.eu/responses/auto-backup-does-not-work#comment-10103 ), don't worry.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 19, 2014, 22:31:23
I did a long bike ride today and again the latest Locus Version worked well and the track record screen came in handy.
Just a few small issues:
It looks like some people (including me, but there is at least someone else in one of the German threads) don´t have the green track record button on the left hand side after closing the track record screen. I thought it might be another android 2.x issue, but the other person is using android 4.x .
And the other issue concerns the height profile chart in the track record screen, i found two issues with it.
One concerns the Altitude on the left, i described it before and just wanted to attach some screenshots to show what I mean.
"Altitude1" shows how it should be, the other two show the problems.
As I can only attach 4 pictures I will describe the other issue in the next post.

(http://s27.postimg.org/5qy9ssjyn/Altitude1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5qy9ssjyn/)  (http://s27.postimg.org/mfzpopgjz/Altitude2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mfzpopgjz/)  (http://s27.postimg.org/ih2i5vrwv/Altitude3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ih2i5vrwv/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 19, 2014, 22:34:12
The other problem happened to me a couple of times today.
I opened the track record screen and the correct height profile (see picture HeightProfileCorrect).
But after a few seconds only the last two kilometers of the track were shown (see picture HeightProfileWrong). This was reproducable for a while, until it suddenly worked again.

(http://s29.postimg.org/urpjdm6tf/Height_Profile_Correct.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/urpjdm6tf/)  (http://s29.postimg.org/wxju84a9v/Height_Profile_Wrong.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wxju84a9v/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: ta-ka on May 20, 2014, 07:00:17
Quote from: eldron on May 19, 2014, 22:31:23
It looks like some people (including me, but there is at least someone else in one of the German threads) don´t have the green track record button on the left hand side after closing the track record screen. I thought it might be another android 2.x issue, but the other person is using android 4.x .

Hi, eldron.

Please check your setting at Settings > Map - control & panels > Right panel visibility.
In my case, if 'Never hide' is set, recording panel tab at left-bottom doesn't appear at all.
It appears only if 'Always hidden' or 'Hide...while' is selected.
Because I want to see both right buttons and recording panel tab,
I select 'Hide...while' and set 86400s to 'Hide menu timeout'.
As my devises are android 4.x, I hope these tips work for android 2.x too.

@menion
Is is an intent or an issue that recording panel tab visibility depend on the setting of right panel visibility?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: tramp20 on May 20, 2014, 07:09:39
Quote from: ta-ka on May 20, 2014, 07:00:17

It appears only if 'Always hidden' or 'Hide...while' is selected.
Because I want to see both right buttons and recording panel tab,
I select 'Hide...while' and set 86400s to 'Hide menu timeout'.


Thank you for this tip.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 20, 2014, 07:50:28
QuotePlease check your setting at Settings > Map - control & panels > Right panel visibility.
In my case, if 'Never hide' is set, recording panel tab at left-bottom doesn't appear at all.
It appears only if 'Always hidden' or 'Hide...while' is selected.
you are right ;)
if i change the setting, i also see the REC-button, Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 20, 2014, 08:14:33
@eldron: thanks for testing. Both problem are known for me (also during my bike tests ;) )

1. labels on altitude chart will need some more changes - test - changes - test, but soon or later I'm sure it will work correctly

2. correctly you should see only last 100 recorded points. So problem is that chart isn't correctly rescaled immediately, but just after it receive another point. It's fix it.

@eldron, ta-ka: we discuss this earlier. It's intent. There are two conditions to see this state left button
1. Android 4.0+
2. 'Track record' button should not be permamently visible as ta-ka found. If you have this button on right panel and this panel is always visible, button won't be visible because it's not needed.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 20, 2014, 08:29:01
In my eyes this track record screen isn´t usefull very much as long, as you are on the road, because it covers the whole map.
While driving, cycling or even walking you can´t use this screen with a small 4" display.
I add some information panels to a dashboard, so I can control speed and distance with map in the background.
And try to get this track record screen, while you are walking or cycling uphill with left button.
Have a look at Gyntas screenshot (the right one from http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3919.msg29346#msg29346) 7! buttons or info panels for track recording? I have both buttons in the same time too right and left.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 20, 2014, 09:14:25
Jusc I think it always depend on everyone, what he wants, what he currently do, etc.

Example: I was on short bike trip. Because I like stats and I ride around 10 km on know track, I was watching dashboard. Then I turn to forest and I needed map. Dashboard was useless in this case, so I simply hide it. If you need to ride with map, I think you do not need watch some dashboard values and opposite. Anyway what I wrote in first sentence - depend on user (and also screen size of his device :) ). I generally do not see anything negative on new panel for track record. Anyway I'm open for an constructive critics.

Also as you know me, I do not do 'final solutions'. So if time show, that this panel may be done better, I'll do it.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 20, 2014, 09:53:51
Quote from: menion on May 20, 2014, 08:14:33
2. 'Track record' button should not be permamently visible as ta-ka found. If you have this button on right panel and this panel is always visible, button won't be visible because it's not needed.

" If you have this button on right panel and this panel is always visible, button won't be visible because it's not needed."
Ahh, but If you use the record buttons with a dasboard as shown in Gyntas screen, the left button comes up too, even you didn´t configure the record button to the "right disapearing panel". The additional left button isn´t needed too, if you use track recording with dashboard.
Is it possible to make it depending from settings? Default could be leaved untouched, but for me .... :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 20, 2014, 11:33:07
btw. dashboard:
turning display (portrait <-> landscape) ignores "Resize by top panel" and "Resize by bottom panel"

edit
dashboard:
tap on track (eg to use guiding,...) first time after starting locus, "Resize by top panel" and "Resize by bottom panel" was ignored.
see clip
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 22, 2014, 09:00:10
during last days i have recorded some tracks and used the "track record panel"
my impression:
1.please add text or/and icon so user direct see the function of "Buttons".
"chart (1)" for example "Altitude chart"
"chart (2)" for example "Speed chart"
2. while using chart during movement only the last 2 km of the track are displayed and if standing still the whole distance is visible. Is there a possibility to view allways the whole distance?
3. Is it possible, if top or bottom field is not used for a "chart" to display item name and value one behind the other? In my example i see "Speed" in bottomfield, but not the value :( there is enough space ;)
4. Sometimes when i click the "back button" of the recordpanel or the "back button" of the device, i get a" white recordpanel" and i have to click once more the "back button" of the device to see the map.
Till now i found no way to reproduce it purposely :-[

(http://s8.postimg.org/sb7f7mi5d/Track.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sb7f7mi5d/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 13.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 22, 2014, 10:57:13
@balloni
Quote from: balloni55 on May 22, 2014, 09:00:10
3. Is it possible, if top or bottom field is not used for a "chart" to display item name and value one behind the other? In my example i see "Speed" in bottomfield, but not the value :( there is enough space ;)
You should be able to scroll down to see the rest of the "speed" field.
But i do agree that scrolling down shouldn´t be necessary, as the value could be displayed next to the text.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 23, 2014, 19:45:56
uff, this was long week ... new test version. Enjoy weekend and expect release during probably wednesday/thursday of next week.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 23, 2014, 20:08:23
QuoteNew testing version: 2.20.2.7 - RC1
News compare to previous 2.20.2.6
-added working version of automatic GC Offlinizer (for now enabling in config.cfg)
-added ability to define TOP, BOTTOM position for icons in Dashboard item
-added support for Maidenhead coordinate system
-created ability to import "Backup" (restore)
-added ability to share successful backup directly after backup
-made a lot optimizations in chart rendering
-fixed problem with chart scale in track record panel right after panel appear
-improve design of log a cache options
-improved formatting of field notes
-improved icon picker for Geocache waypoints
-new style for context menu of logs
-fixed small problems with recognizing a caches
-fixed incorrect visibility of main panels after rotate
-fixes in track recording settings
-fixed problem with notification on new point over API (after changes)
-better handling of request over Locus API. Also changes to match new API system
-small improvements in GPX export (custom icons)
-a huge number of other small fixes and improvements
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Christian on May 23, 2014, 20:22:22
Looking forward to next official version in next week.
Have a nice and relaxed weekend!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 23, 2014, 20:36:32
dashboard:
tap on track (eg to use guiding,...) first time after starting locus, "Resize by top panel" and "Resize by bottom panel" was ignored. (see post #336 from May 20, 2014, 11:33:07)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 23, 2014, 20:36:50
thanks Christian. Weekend will be fully bike-testing, so hope weather will be better then today in Czech. Nice weekend to you too.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 23, 2014, 20:40:32
missing (again) new translation words.
a checkup AFTER release is boring :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Robin99 on May 23, 2014, 20:43:52
There is missing geocaching option for field notes: always log offline.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 23, 2014, 21:05:08
@gynta: ah sorry. I sometimes forget :). So after week testing - in second RC version

@Robin: yes, I removed it. It was now hard to implement to changed side panel
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 23, 2014, 21:15:47
old style bottom record panel is back.
nice . some guys are happy now :)
where can i choose/change my rec profile?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 23, 2014, 21:26:19
I read part of your crazy german discussion, so this panel is there just on test. I'm on no yet decided that this panel will be in final version. From my point of view it's confusing to have there two panel for one feature and I still not see any problem with side panel.

And profiles may be changed in settings.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 23, 2014, 22:01:20
Quote from: menion on May 23, 2014, 21:26:19crazy german discussion
That's not nice.  :'(
It was a constructive discussion with clear argument from Jürgen.
In his case see examples here:
http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3919.msg29392#msg29392
Some user only need start/pause stop - without values panel.
For this user without dashboard skills, the new rec sidepanel was a step backward.
Matthias also told you: http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg28650#msg28650

QuoteAnd profiles may be changed in settings.
yes - but only for the new rec side panel.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 23, 2014, 22:18:55
I think the choice between side panel and bottom panel for track recording is a good solution for now.
You can actually have both at the same time now - i activated the bottom panel, changed back to side panel and the bottom panel stayed. By clicking on the track record button in the right bar the side panel opened  ;)
Like Robin i miss the always log offline option, but i can live with the extra click (now that i have my "log cache" button back at the bottom ;-)
What is meant with this:
-added working version of automatic GC Offlinizer (for now enabling in config.cfg)
Would that automatically offlinize (does that word even exist??) the caches after downloading them?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 23, 2014, 22:35:10
Quote from: eldron on May 23, 2014, 22:18:55
You can actually have both at the same time now - i activated the bottom panel, changed back to side panel and the bottom panel stayed. By clicking on the track record button in the right bar the side panel opened  ;)
nice trick!
(http://www.oldboys.at/dl/locus/smileys/hehe.gif)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2014, 08:07:51
"crazy discussion" isn't negative sentence. Maybe imagine it in quotation marks ;)

Anyway post you point on is working only in case, you still see old track record panel on map. If you hide it, then you always need additional taps to make it visible. And for is main question - why you need this panel still visible? When I go on bike or some walk, I just start recording and stop it when came back home. And I believe it's a use case of majority of users.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2014, 08:44:32
Quote from: eldron on May 23, 2014, 22:18:55
-added working version of automatic GC Offlinizer (for now enabling in config.cfg)
Would that automatically offlinize (does that word even exist??) the caches after downloading them?
It's just testing feature for now, anyway it do only simple thing. If you watch any cache in Locus, all visible images are in that moment automatically downloaded by locus to cache folder (locus/data/geocaching/... ) and in listing, images etc. tags are visible these pre-loaded images.

Currently all images download android itself so they are cached only for a while (cache is limited by around 10 MB).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 24, 2014, 12:09:06
Quote from: menion on May 24, 2014, 08:07:51

Anyway post you point on is working only in case, you still see old track record panel on map. If you hide it, then you always need additional taps to make it visible. And for is main question - why you need this panel still visible? When I go on bike or some walk, I just start recording and stop it when came back home. And I believe it's a use case of majority of users.

Maybe for majority of users... I´dont see the majority, because only very few users are interested in this discussion.
Latest comment  on Google+ is from May 16th (with other topic) and not even only one topic at Google Groups from "testers". So where is the feedback of testers?
And what about one click solutions for OSM mappers using quickpoints "onroad"? Or what about users which use Locus as stopwatch?
I vote for "one" click solutions. Perhaps the majority can convince me otherwise.  ;D
I tried dashboard solutions, they work well, but if you share them to other phones you have to adapt them.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 24, 2014, 13:05:47
Quote2. while using chart during movement only the last 2 km of the track are displayed and if standing still the whole distance is visible. Is there a possibility to view allways the whole distance?
no answer ???
and the new result in new testversion confused me complete, see video, jumping point and jumping distance.
EDIT: possible reason, on way back i take partly the same way, possibly locus mix both directions?

Quote3. Is it possible, if top or bottom field is not used for a "chart" to display item name and value one behind the other? In my example i see "Speed" in bottomfield, but not the value :( there is enough space ;)
no answer, no improvement
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 24, 2014, 13:48:14
QuoteIf you watch any cache in Locus, all visible images are in that moment automatically downloaded by locus to cache folder
additional question:
is it possible to fix it only with wifi connection?
Sometimes i use GC4L "Live map" and i have no flatrate
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2014, 18:10:48
@jusc: I don't know where is feedback from testers. I have one major benefits from testing - if Locus seriously crash - "Force close", I receive report with this crash log. So I can try to find where is a problem. If users do not comment or react on this new version, only what I may think is that everything is OK or they don't care. So because except few posts from you, I had no negative reactions on new track record panel, I believe, people don't care or like it.

Other use cases as you wrote - I belive we may togetger find 100 possible activities, where you may use track record in different way. I always try to find optimal solution which will be somewhere between all possibilities.

My first idea was to create completely separate screen just for track record, but it was even slower during field testing because there were no ability to show/hide with slide. So this was something between.

I don't know who except you still have problems with side panel. I personally found it very useful during ride on bike. Bottom panel on map with it's tiny buttons is very hard to touch during ride, almost impossible. So you still always have to stop to tap on any buttons. With this side panel it is not a problem. Hmm anyway, may you describe me what you do with "track record" feature during one day bike ride? Because maybe this may help me understand why you need to have this panel still visible.

@balloni: 2. hmm I wrote it somewhere ... mnt. Ah just partially here http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29355#msg29355 , sorry. So on chart, you see only last 100 points, no more. This limit is there to prevent bigger CPU usage due to some computations needed on bigger charts. Anyway I was thinking about it, and in worst case I may create this parameter configurable by config.cfg

3. sorry, not possible now. Track record is created with exactly same method as a dashboard you create. So what isn't possible in dashboard, isn't possible here.

And offlinizer - I wrote it incorrectly. Better description:
Current Locus version (official):
1. you import any cache, display it on map. Till now, nothing happen.
2. You tap on cache, now you see new screen with point details (geocache details).
3. Locus display listing and Android WebView component starts download images to it's own cache.
4. .. then you check few more geocaches and every cache download it's images to WebView cache. This cache is limited to 10 MB, so when it's fill, new images overwrite olders.
5. You display again first cache and Locus needs to download these images again!!

New Locus Test version:
same steps, except
3. Locus display listing and Android WebView component starts loading images - here anyway comes my code which firstly download all images on card (same directory as GC Offlinizer). And then add these images to WebView.
5. Same point, but images are still cached on card.

This feature is anyway in "DEV" part, because I saw some small problem with reloading of webView page after images are downloaded, so I have to be firstly 100% sure, it work as expected.

Better?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 24, 2014, 18:35:24
Quote from: menion on May 24, 2014, 18:10:48...I personally found it very useful during ride on bike. Bottom panel on map with it's tiny buttons is very hard to touch during ride, almost impossible.
agree. but now we have a tiny button to open the record panel and after that(!!) I see a larger button to pause track record.
thats the point. Same to restart.

edit
new:  (http://s4.postimg.org/jx6uovse1/32x107.png) (http://postimage.org/) and old:   (http://s4.postimg.org/wnb31z0c9/107x72.png) (http://postimage.org/)

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2014, 18:45:47
it's not exact. Better - you're correct. I had exactly same problem, too tiny button on side. But in this last test version, this side button react also on slide from side, so you do not have to directly touch it. I already tested it on bike and it works perfectly. Just slide from border of device over this button and it opens side panel.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: wvb on May 24, 2014, 18:48:11
The issue that I reported on G+ still seems to be present..
I will copy/paste the text here:

I did notice an issue with Field Notes showing the wrong timestamp (today instead of existing).
Steps to reproduce:
- open Geocache with existing Field Note
- click the button on top right
- click Log visit
- click existing Field Note
- click Store offline
then you will notice the TIME field has current date and time and not the one that was originally stored...

Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: jurek77 on May 24, 2014, 18:53:30
Hi Menion
No menu (Add mapa, Visible tabs, Settigs, Manual) in Mapa - Personal, on Motorola XT320 Android 2.3.6.
On Nexus 7 2013 it is all OK.

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 7 przy użyciu Tapatalka

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 24, 2014, 19:00:47
Quote from: menion on May 24, 2014, 18:10:48...I personally found it very useful during ride on bike. Bottom panel on map with it's tiny buttons is very hard to touch during ride, almost impossible.
Quote from: gynta on May 24, 2014, 18:35:24
agree. but now we have a tiny button to open the record panel and after that(!!) I see a larger button to pause track record. - Thats the point.
Same to restart.
Quote from: menion on May 24, 2014, 18:45:47
...you're correct. I had exactly same problem, too tiny button on side. But in this last test version, this side button react also on slide from side, so you do not have to directly touch it...

Ahh.. Nice to hear it... now!

(http://www.oldboys.at/dl/locus/smileys/s&o.gif)

::)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: wvb on May 24, 2014, 19:14:23
The small record button on the left only seems to become visible when right panel is hidden.
With right panel visible the button never shows.


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Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: CaptKaos2 on May 24, 2014, 20:06:32
Just been out and tried the new test version on a quick jaunt, and am pleased.

The 2 problems I have with the Pro
1. Bluetooth GPS log files  - No longer written :)
2. FC when rotating screen during Field Note creation  - Fixed

As Robin99 posted, miss the Always Log Offline setting. But it is something I can get used to.
 
Having read the discussion on the DE section, I tried the Track Record and I found it worked OK for my needs. But they are simple Start /Stop/Save. Edit liked the sliding panel  more than the bottom panel
I wasn't going to comment on it, but looking at Menions comment from earlier thought I would.

CK
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2014, 22:20:12
@wvb: thanks and sorry for a delay. I probably found an issue. You have disabled "Use timezone" right? I'll fix this to next version.

@jurek: may anyone confirm missing menu in Menu > Maps > tab Personal? Because I'm unable to simulate it. I have menu visible correctly on all tabs in Map manager.

@gynta: hmm, thanks, I need it sometimes :)

@wvb: yes, it's correct. Partially. It's not visible only if right panel is always visible and on this right panel is "track record" button.

@CaptKaos2: thanks, appreciate it. "Always offline" added back. I was previously little bit lazy to make this work also. Now fully working again.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 24, 2014, 22:46:20
@menion
I can confirm the missing menu in the map screen. I am also on android 2.3.6. Never even knew there was a menu there ;-)
It works in Locus pro but not in Locus Free. Doesn´t work in any of the tabs (Online, Vector, personal, WMS).
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 24, 2014, 22:53:27
ah I maybe got it. It probably won't work also in Menu > Data right? Thanks for help, perfect!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 24, 2014, 22:57:59
correct, same problem in Data screen.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 25, 2014, 13:33:31
About labeling items in new rec panel (and dashboard editor)
"Basic items" and "Buttons"

For me, "Buttons" sounds wrong.
A chart is not a button!
On the other hand, "start","stop",...  are buttons.
It looks, you don't have found the right place for chart. :)

So I suggest "Various" or "More"
What you think?

(http://s27.postimg.org/w64vg31wv/buttons.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/w64vg31wv/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 25, 2014, 19:13:10
agree, "various" is probably best, because when there will be later some more types, like compass etc. it still can me "various" :). Thanks
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 25, 2014, 20:18:52
Thanks for your answer in #357, especially the undersandable discription as offlinizer works ;)
Quoteproblem:
during trackrecording i add a POI and a short discription "airport" 8)
After the tour i edit the discription "view on the airport of ..." and save it, the changed disciption is displayed :D
if i export the track with changed discription there is "airport" displayed
problem solved ! :)
Quoteso track statisticks will be added to POI only if there will be no your own description.

is it possible to add default a placeholder in discriptionfield, i never want track statistic in POI?
what do you think about a placeholder?

If i take a lock to  "info" of one trackpoint of a recorded track, i see the tradi icon and it seems to be stored under "Tradi", but it isn´t.
I do not understand this behavior, i found no setting for that? and this trackpoints have nothing to do with "Tradi"

(http://s15.postimg.org/z3lhu88l3/Point.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/z3lhu88l3/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 26, 2014, 08:24:42
One small issue: by tapping on import Locus does not remember where I imported from the previous time. I use in 99% my dropbox folder however Locus always chooses the left tab by default.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 26, 2014, 08:25:53
@balloni: may you write me what you mean by "placeholder"? Thanks. Anyway as I wrote before .. I need to make new track screen, then it will be simply possible show/not show correct track record stats at certain points. It will anyway take some time

About point - fact that title with icon and name has grey background means, that point is only temporary. So it should be
1. really temporary point from for example G4L add-on
2. issue in Locus when point attached to track is marked as a temporary.

If 2. is correct, are you able to simulate this problem? Because I have no success and my track points are always with read background in title/icon line (which inform that it's point connected to track)

@szebenyib: thanks, I'll check it
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 26, 2014, 14:28:47
about backupmanager

"Edit current backup" means "Edit current backup settings" right?

(http://s14.postimg.org/t7a71mhfx/2014_05_26_140743.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/t7a71mhfx/)
(click)


btw. good idea:

(http://s14.postimg.org/3prsi0zpp/2014_05_26_140837.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3prsi0zpp/)
(click)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 26, 2014, 15:01:41
'settings' - right, better.

And sharing backups - this is what happen, when I try once transfer data from one device to another :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 26, 2014, 19:09:52
Quotemay you write me what you mean by "placeholder"?

(http://s23.postimg.org/fr1b484hj/Kombi.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fr1b484hj/)
in the middle screenshot is the Description field (green recktangle) if i write a letter/word in this field it is displayed see right screenshot "Text" together with "Details" :) perfect!
if this descriptionfield is empty, needless trackinfos are added ???, see left screenshot.
Trackinfos are available in each trackpoint.
So my wish/idea is a "placeholder" in Description field (green rectangle)
it should work like a fake, for example you insert permanent a "white star" unvisible for user and locus believe it is an text ;D
I hope this is more understandable for you.
QuoteAbout point - fact that title with icon and name has grey background means, that point is only temporary
ok, grey temporary
QuoteIf i take a lock to  "info" of one trackpoint of a recorded track, i see the tradi icon
Quoteissue in Locus when point attached to track is marked as a temporary.
it is not a point attached to a track, it is a trackpoint, see short clip



Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 26, 2014, 19:24:12
sorry for secound post, max size of attachement...... :-[
during my track tests i found this behavior,
recording a short track with POIs, the POIs are only displayed  clicking on map, when i zoom out ???
see attached clip
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 27, 2014, 14:04:08
Hello balloni,
please wait few weeks till I start at least partial work on new track screen. Because for me some changes here will be just an additonal work for a few weeks. Thanks

About clicking on track - here should be a problem, that you tap on red center cross. Because if you tap on cross, Locus select item exactly in the middle of this cross, which may cause problems. Try to move map center cross out of track/points and try it again. It should work better.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 27, 2014, 19:38:08
Last test version 2.20.2.8 RC2 uploaded! (Will be ready for download in 1 - 2 hours as usually)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Raddino on May 27, 2014, 19:52:58
Quote from: menion on May 18, 2014, 22:14:04

@Raddino:
1) quick buttons in screen with geocache detail, will be possible in settings > geoaching (at bottom)
2) "Body zájmu" - it's advanced feature planned on July/August probably (we are little in time pressure not so it will take longer then expected). What is in Locus is just testing, so ignore it ...

Finally i had some time to try and it's awesome! Possibility to customize quick buttons is great. And one more  question. Is there a way to edit offline FN? Thanks for working on Locus!

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 27, 2014, 19:54:26
try to log any field note offline and after that display side panel for "Log visit" once more. You should see there also previous field note ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: Raddino on May 27, 2014, 20:02:05
Quote from: menion on May 27, 2014, 19:54:26
try to log any field note offline and after that display side panel for "Log visit" once more. You should see there also previous field note ;)
I see. Great. And it is possible to add a button somewhere to logging menu to see all current FN's (count and list of them) to easily see, how many caches i found today/this week and easily found cache where i want to edit FN? For example, if i want to edit one cache log after trip with 20+ caches, i have to know the cache name to find the exact cache and then i can edit log. It will be nice to have an option to click and see the list, so i can easily edit logs for example during commuting. I hope you understand what i wanted to say :-)

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Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 27, 2014, 22:02:29
Every time I try to change the  color of a recorded track, the color palette is confusing me. Half of the palette is red?!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 27, 2014, 22:04:56
Hi!
General questions, not related to the current release, but couldn't find a better place:
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 23.5.2014)
Post by: jurek77 on May 27, 2014, 22:25:38
Hi !
Menu info point of track not working.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/28/azypybe8.jpg)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 27, 2014, 23:22:09
v2.20.2.8 - after short view :

dashboard: tap on track (eg to use guiding,..) first time after starting locus, "Resize by top panel" and "Resize by bottom panel" was ignored.
(already posted here: http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29360#msg29360
and here: http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29443#msg29443 )
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record panel - chart - wild jumping point - works
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scenario:
choose... menu-> settings-> track recording-> global-> style of controlling track record-> bottom panel:
Q: How can i change a profile to use it as default now?
(as already asked here: http://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29448#msg29448
but maybe a misunderstanding.)
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on tablet - store - choose a country - by double tap - double maps bug still exists
(as already posted in a other forum area)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 27, 2014, 23:27:22
Wanted to have a look at the new locus store, but I only get the message not yet...in preparation.
I downloaded the unlock file and put it into the locus folder, restarted locus, but still no success.am I doing anything wrong? The unlock file has 0 kb, maybe that's the problem? I downloaded it twice, directly onto my phone.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 27, 2014, 23:32:56
Quote from: eldron on May 27, 2014, 23:27:22
The unlock file has 0 kb, maybe that's the problem? I downloaded it twice, directly onto my phone.
0kb is ok
hmmm...
- try a other browser
- or copy from here to your device
- or create a empty file
sorry for stupid questions:
- choosen your RIGHT Locusfolder?
- starting with Locus Free Test version?
- the store was working before for you (in PRO)?
(http://s17.postimg.org/r389cxl17/2014_05_27_233559.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/r389cxl17/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 27, 2014, 23:47:54
Tried a different browser and that did the trick.for some reason the file downloaded by the stock browser was called unlock-store.bin (both times).with firefox it worked straight away.
Thanks gynta
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: jurek77 on May 28, 2014, 00:27:39
This button (point info) not working on Nexus 7 2013, and Motorola XT320. I have message "Unfortunately, Locus Free has stopped".

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Bucky Kid on May 28, 2014, 00:34:28
I've got these errors with this version too. Try to backup config, clear app data, uninstall test locus fully then install again from store and restore config from backup.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 28, 2014, 08:45:44
@balloni: I forget to fix problem with track points - so now

@Raddino: work with field notes isn't perfect, but try menu > Geocaching Live > Field notes or in menu > Geocaching Tools > Field notes

@jusc: I know, it needs simplification. Anyway please try color slider on right side, which change base color

@szebenyib: if you have "Locus" style, then double tap do not zoom. It's probably due to "one tap, one up, one tap and slide", and if I remember correctly there is no way to disable this now.

Vector maps - autoload: means that Locus try automatically load another map if you are on border of current map

Shading - it's directly from Locus. And too light - I'm sure everyone want's different strength. Unfortunately there is currently no public settings for this feature.

@gynta:

panels after rotate - damn, you're right, thanks

To change profiles, just go to settings. Where is a problem?

double tap in store - it really still happen? Weird, I'm unable to simulate it

@jurek: please instead of some un-install etc. just create for me a log.

EDIT: log not needed, problem found, thanks!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 28, 2014, 09:48:59
Yes it is more like a tap and slide :) If it is not a great work please implement a checkbox for it to turn off.

Auto-load: thanks, now I understand what it does!

Shading: see pictures attached. I honestly barely see it, however I definitely remember climbing steep hills there with my bicycle.  ;) As comparison I attached one picture with turistautak.hu (relief version) which is quite nice.

(http://s29.postimg.org/g7swauadf/2014_05_27_22_13_42.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/g7swauadf/)  (http://s29.postimg.org/697xod0xv/2014_05_27_22_13_56.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/697xod0xv/)

The turistautak.hu version.
(http://s29.postimg.org/mge84f7yb/2014_05_27_22_18_59.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mge84f7yb/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 28, 2014, 09:51:48
Quote from: menion on May 28, 2014, 08:45:44
@gynta:panels after rotate - damn, you're right, thanks
not only rotate...

QuoteTo change profiles, just go to settings. Where is a problem?
Can you create a clip for me PLEASE ;)

Quotedouble tap in store - it really still happen? Weird, I'm unable to simulate it
will check again...
...and can reproduce this in 10 seconds
btw. store has problems with landscape mode
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 28, 2014, 10:34:42
@szebenyib
Your screenshot looks more like there is no shading at all. Could you please tell us which map you were using when taking those first screenshots? And is it a vector or a tile map?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 28, 2014, 10:53:41
I have checked it again, and although it was switched on (quick switch) it was not active for any type of map in the free version. After I have found that in the menu I activated it for vector maps (that's what I use: openmaps -> vector map downloaded from there, with their theme). Now it works as it does in locus pro, I was a bit noob with it but I just used the quick switch.

However comparing it with the relief turistautak.hu map it could be a bit more darker., so the issue remains. That hill there is really a hill, and a stronger shading would emphasize that. See the two screenshots attached. Especially in the sunlight I would barely see the difference. I can say that because I tend to use this vectormap while en route with bike and I have noted that earlier just forgotten to mention it.

(http://s9.postimg.org/d3p1n6yvf/2014_05_28_10_45_36.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/d3p1n6yvf/)  (http://s28.postimg.org/tx0gmvh49/2014_05_28_10_45_51.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tx0gmvh49/)

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: stebu on May 28, 2014, 13:27:06
Hi!

One minor "downgrade". In current pro (and previously) the selected map type (online, personal, vector ...) was remembered.
In the latest test version, Locus always opens online maps. If I'm using a vector map, I would like vector tab to be opened!

2nd:
When I'm viewing a downloaded online map (peronal) and I have no internet connection, I do not want to see the red "Problem with internet connection" banner. The old system with the error text inside the empty tile was much better.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Stargaterunner on May 28, 2014, 13:35:17
If I try the new Locus store, I get an error message:  "Unbekanntes Problem fehlercode: 23" / "unknown problem error code 23"
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 28, 2014, 16:26:50
@szebenyib: it's not so simple. Created shading on device isn't so smooth as one generated on server. When I increase dark color, it won't look so nice. Also as I wrote - everybody wants something different ;). We should anyway talk about it later.

@stebu: first problem - thanks, fixed. Second - I do not see any such error. It happen to you just when you open 'Maps' screen? Weird, there should be no attempt to connect to internet

@Stargaterunner: thanks - try it please once more. It's was a problem with older @googlemail.com in your email.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Stargaterunner on May 28, 2014, 16:36:29
Thanks menion, the store works now.  :D
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 28, 2014, 16:38:25
Ok :-) thanks.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 28, 2014, 17:55:05
I found differences between Pro and test version in planing a route (add route and measure).
In the test version the route doesn´t follow the way as in Pro version
(http://s27.postimg.org/tjxb36han/Routes.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tjxb36han/)

Left ist test version, right is Pro version. It doesn´t matter if you choose an online route service like yours or the BRouter
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 28, 2014, 18:10:22
hmm in this case it should depend on third bottom button - button no. 5 ( http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200033951-Add-new-route-Measure ). Do you have same state (enabled/disabled) on both devices?
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 28, 2014, 18:14:25
Quote from: szebenyib on May 28, 2014, 10:53:41

However comparing it with the relief turistautak.hu map it could be a bit more darker., so the issue remains.

You can use overlay like OSM layers HBM Hillshade
(http://s21.postimg.org/8ybfai5eb/hbm.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8ybfai5eb/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 28, 2014, 18:17:14
Quote from: menion on May 28, 2014, 18:10:22
hmm in this case it should depend on third bottom button - button no. 5 ( http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200033951-Add-new-route-Measure ). Do you have same state (enabled/disabled) on both devices?

yes, button number 5 is pressed and foot is used in both cases.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 28, 2014, 19:31:59
I have seen that theme as well, however it is the same :)
Btw. that theme does not highlight hiking paths with the appropriate signs so no other theme may be used but only the one from openmaps.eu.
Anyway thank you for looking :) :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: stebu on May 28, 2014, 20:11:23
Quote from: menion on May 28, 2014, 16:26:50
@stebu: first problem - thanks, fixed. Second - I do not see any such error. It happen to you just when you open 'Maps' screen? Weird, there should be no attempt to connect to internet
OK, it happened only when I switched off internet while I was using ONLINE map to test the map caching feature.
So no problem :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 28, 2014, 21:07:40
Hello menion,
thanks for answer, i´ll wait for "new track screen" ;)

have you changed anything exporting a Track with POIs in 2.20.2.8???
If i import a with 2.20.2.7 exported .kmz i am able to select  "Merge Points with track", see left screenshot
If i import a with 2.20.2.8 exported .kmz i am missing  "Merge Points with track", see right screenshot
and so the POIs are additional imported :o


(http://s28.postimg.org/u7ppjnucp/merge.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u7ppjnucp/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 29, 2014, 01:49:58
@szebenyib
Have you tried a hillshade overlay map (as Jusc recommended)? That´s not a theme.
It´s a second map (that only displays the hillshading) and that is put on top of a normal, "flat" map to create the hillshades.
You can find it under "More"->"Map Overlay". Then you select the map (Online Maps->Overlays->Hike&Bike Hillshade) And choose your level of transparency. If you want to use it offline you can download the OSM Hillshading(OSM-Layers->Hikebikemap Hillshade), but i can´t remember if i had to manually add that map to the list or if it´s a standard map...
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 29, 2014, 02:00:52
@ Menion
When I open a track and click on the "Point info" button (the neddle with an "i" in the left menu), Locus says "working" (Bearbeitung läuft) and then crashes.This bug is reproducable, so let me know if you need a log.
I also had a problem with closing the geocaching tools screen. When pressing the back button the screen turned white. I had to press back again for the screen to close. I think that problem was described earlier in this thread for the Track record screen. Doesn´t happen every time though.

And one question:
I drew some lines and circles today, but found no way to delete them, other than restarting the app...? Is there any way to delete them? And I also can´t click on them, so how do I get infos about them? Whilst I create the line locus tells me how long it is, but once I have created it I can´t get back to that info screen anymore - or at least I couldn´t find out how to.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 29, 2014, 02:23:41
Quote from: eldron on May 29, 2014, 02:00:52
@ Menion When I open a track and click on the "Point info" button (the neddle with an "i" in the left menu), Locus says "working" (Bearbeitung läuft) and then crashes.This bug is reproducable, so let me know if you need a log.
see
forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29556#msg29556
forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29562#msg29562
forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=3796.msg29564#msg29564
Quote@jurek: please instead of some un-install etc. just create for me a log.
EDIT: log not needed, problem found, thanks!



Quote from: eldron on May 29, 2014, 02:00:52
I drew some lines and circles today, but found no way to delete them, other than restarting the app...? Is there any way to delete them?
(http://s17.postimg.org/7fvii0urf/2014_05_29_021939.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/7fvii0urf/)

Quote from: eldron on May 29, 2014, 02:00:52And I also can´t click on them, so how do I get infos about them? Whilst I create the line locus tells me how long it is, but once I have created it I can´t get back to that info screen anymore - or at least I couldn´t find out how to.
Locus isn't a photoshop clone. :)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: eldron on May 29, 2014, 02:32:41
@ gynta
Do you ever sleep?
Thanks for your answer, so the point info bug is already fixed :-)
So that´s how you remove the lines/circles! Thanks again. Never thought of Locus as a photoshop substitute... but now that you´ve mentioned it, maybe we should start a little Locus drawing competition?
But seriously - the line can be a useful tool to measure the distance between two points. For that it would be handy though to check the lenght of the line without having to draw it again.
Not very important though - I was just wondering whether it´s possible to get back to that info screen or not.

Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: gynta on May 29, 2014, 02:39:23
Quote from: eldron on May 29, 2014, 02:32:41
the line can be a useful tool to measure the distance between two points.
http://support.locusmap.eu/hc/en-us/articles/200033951-Add-new-route-Measure
again: Measure ;)
don't use this "route" - just measure
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: szebenyib on May 29, 2014, 06:24:07
@eldron I have checked it and it is nice especially together with shading. :-)
(it seems to slow down map drawing, so I believe I will just use it when I'm at home planning a trip.
It was a good idea, thanks. :-)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 29, 2014, 07:05:56
@jusc: hmm one guy seems to have also some problems here https://plus.google.com/118114018285093982179/posts/2iVPvsWqLH2 , but I'm unable to simulate this. Wil try today before release

@stebu: ah you're right! I've changed system for downloading map tiles and this is result. I'll fix it, thanks

@balloni: may you please share with me these two exports? I'll check it's content and find a problem, thanks

@eldron: click on 'Point icon' is already fixed, thanks. About white screen - yes I read about it, but I'm still not able to reproduce it. Fortunately it's not a huge problem. And to delete items - you need to "Remove temp map items". This may be done by button in right panel, button in data > items tab or long click on 'data' button (in context menu) ... ah you already discuss this below, nevermind :)



Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: balloni55 on May 29, 2014, 09:15:45
Quotemay you please share with me these two exports? I'll check it's content and find a problem, thanks
perhaps i found the reason, and if you need furthermore the files ill share it to you ;) let me know
The difference between both tracks:
in first (left screenshot) i add no text in descriptionfield of the track
Quote<name><![CDATA[2014-05-25 16:21:40]]></name>
   <description><![CDATA[1h:05m:31s | 17.0 km<br /><br /><font color="black"><table width="100%"><tr><td><table width="100%"><tr><td align="left" valign="center"><small><b>Length</b></small></td><td align="center" valign="center">17.0 km</td></tr>
in secound (right screenshot) i add text "Track" in the discription of the track.
<name><![CDATA[tra2014-05-28 09:59:57]]></name>
<description><![CDATA[Track<br /><br /><font color="black"><table width="100%">
<tr><td width="100%" align="center">Track</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1"><hr></td></tr><tr><td><table width="100%"><tr><td align="left" valign="center">
<small><b>Length</b></small></td><td align="center" valign="center">1.7 km</td></tr>


and additional i found that this text "Track" is displayed twice after reimport


(http://s30.postimg.org/r5vw442lp/track.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/r5vw442lp/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: jusc on May 29, 2014, 11:07:53
Quote from: menion on May 29, 2014, 07:05:56
@jusc: hmm one guy seems to have also some problems here https://plus.google.com/118114018285093982179/posts/2iVPvsWqLH2 , but I'm unable to simulate this. Wil try today before release

I rebooted my phone Note 2 but no changes.
You can try the way I choosed ( please look at the coordinates) It´s near Vienna (Kalenderberg).
Choose only start and second point. And zoom in at least at 40m, maybe you dont´t see it in lower zoom levels, btw.there is a different look at scale.
With Locus test (right picture) the way is shorter, but there are navigation instructions, that I can´t see with Locus Pro.
(http://s27.postimg.org/tnwykm4wf/Routes_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tnwykm4wf/)

5 Minutes later  ;D
Maybe I found it. If you mark "only route" it works correctly

(http://s14.postimg.org/8kxm81wfh/Routes_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8kxm81wfh/)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 29, 2014, 13:26:33
@balloni and @jusc: sorry, I'm unable to simulate both problems.

I'm also closing this topic, guess why ;).

Next 14 days will be, due to a lot of changes, focused mainly on tunning, debugging, fixing and other dirty words. So if there will be problems, my ears are open!!

And I almost forget - THANK YOU ALL - this was long six weeks and without your help, I can never create such monster as new 3.0.0 version ;)
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: tommi on May 29, 2014, 22:40:52
Quote from: jusc on May 29, 2014, 11:07:53
Quote from: menion on May 29, 2014, 07:05:56
@jusc: hmm one guy seems to have also some problems here https://plus.google.com/118114018285093982179/posts/2iVPvsWqLH2 , but I'm unable to simulate this. Wil try today before release

I rebooted my phone Note 2 but no changes.
You can try the way I choosed ( please look at the coordinates) It´s near Vienna (Kalenderberg).
Choose only start and second point. And zoom in at least at 40m, maybe you dont´t see it in lower zoom levels, btw.there is a different look at scale.
With Locus test (right picture) the way is shorter, but there are navigation instructions, that I can´t see with Locus Pro.
(http://s27.postimg.org/tnwykm4wf/Routes_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tnwykm4wf/)

5 Minutes later  ;D
Maybe I found it. If you mark "only route" it works correctly

(http://s14.postimg.org/8kxm81wfh/Routes_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8kxm81wfh/)
I think I know the reason for the different behaviour dependent on the tick for "only route". In case of not set tick, Locus performs a smoothing of the track in order to possibly generate a better result for navigation orders.
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on May 30, 2014, 00:13:57
Ah you've got it. Locus use last settings for "Navigation generator" you used, so in this case, it's probably "Number of orders: low". Thanks Tommi!
Title: Re: [APP] - version 2.20.X+ (updated 27.5.2014)
Post by: Menion on June 02, 2014, 11:03:13
Quote from: balloni55 on May 28, 2014, 21:07:40
have you changed anything exporting a Track with POIs in 2.20.2.8???
If i import a with 2.20.2.7 exported .kmz i am able to select  "Merge Points with track", see left screenshot
If i import a with 2.20.2.8 exported .kmz i am missing  "Merge Points with track", see right screenshot
and so the POIs are additional imported :o
I'm testing this issue and seems there is an interesting problem. It's not because of any change in Locus, such issue exists in Locus for a long time. Problem is, that before import, Locus do really simple and fast counting of points/tracks in file. In case of your second file, it search for tracks by counting of '<linestring' text. And in your file is one track separated on two linestrings. That's all. Because Locus think, there are two tracks, you do not see "Merge option". But how to solve it? Hard to say :). Precise counting is quite complicated here if "Analyzing" part before import should be fast.